Chief of Air Staff Mujahid Anwar Khan calls on PM Imran Khan, professional matters discussed

[araz]

On the flip-side...look like an opportunity! "chance of the century" my learned Friend!



Is there any guarantee the new norm set by Indians will not be done again! i dont think so...there narrative/strategy is built upon retaliation..precedent is set already.

Look Who is out of the whole!!

Any misadventure by Pakistan Army will be repelled with punitive response: Army chief
"The Indian armed forces stand resolute and ready to defend our territorial integrity. Let there be no doubt that misadventures will be repelled with a punitive response," he said.
PTI|
Jul 13, 2019, 02.37 PM IST
Pakistan Army will be repelled with punitive response and no act of terror will go unpunished, Army chief General Bipin Rawat said Saturday.

Speaking at an event on '20 Years after KargilConflict', Rawat said Pakistan Army, time and again, resorts to misadventure, either through state-sponsored terrorism or intrusions in India.

"The Indian armed forces stand resolute and ready to defend our territorial integrity. Let there be no doubt that misadventures will be repelled with a punitive response," he said.

The rise of non-state actors and the readiness to use terror and other irregular methods of fighting have become a new norm, he said.

Addition of cyber and space domain has changed the battlefield scenario, the Army chief noted.
Rawat also asserted that no act of terror will go unpunished. "Surgical strikes post-Uri and Balakot (terror attacks) have amply demonstrated our political and military resolve against terror. Any act of terror will not go unpunished," Rawat added.

@Starlord and @The tall Guy.
My post is in response to your posts.
As compared to previously there is one major difference. The Indians had been shouting and boasting till they went hoarse and the Pak establishment had been playing it cool. Indians took it as a sign of our weakness and thought they had enough international clout to bombus and we would have to take it and keep quiet. I think the mission was to just drop bombs and maintain the narrative of Surgical strike thinking Pak side would not respond to a strike with no material damage( perhaps intentional). The Pak side decided to respond and respond in a manner that stunned their enemy. Their response to our incursions resulted in rather unfortunate loss of their platforms AND PILOTS which was not planned for by the PAF. So the opportunity came and PAF wisely and in strict persuance of international norms of engagement took it. This more than anything else is what has stung them into silence.
Now our populace jumped up and down over why the enemy had not been shot on the night of 26th. If we had invaded their air space our fate could also have been similar. So in effect this was also a training and discipline deficit between the two forces.
If the above narrative is true, then I link back to my original post onthis subject and say that further incursions would not come in the immediate future as capacity, armaments and training gaps would have to be looked into by IAF before they try again. If the time exceeds six months then they would have to stage another event to find a reason for the incursion. In my humble opinion they would now not do so for another 3-5 years.
This remains my analysis and you can shred it to bits as it is my opinion.
Wassalam
A

 

[IceCold]

You dont pay money upfront for weapons you buy .
Economic situation is not that worse as it seems to be , more of it is artificial inflation and downfall .
Pakistan again going to be blue eyed "ally" for US in coming few years due to afghanistan and somewhat iran . You will see Exxon mobil returing back to drill oil in pak sea ......
If you engage US in oil business you become Saudi Arabia and if you conceal oil from them you become venezuela and iran regardless of the reality of having largest oil reserves in world .......
Pakistan is going to engage US companies in gwadar port city . Engage US and chinese companies in rekodiq gold reserves . Engage chinese companies in coal reserves . Engage russian companies in industrial business . And relax this is going to happen in next decade and more and more weapon market will be open for Pakistan .

If you are still banking on US weapons, considering all that has happened in the past and how US made weapons specially the F-16s were used to black mail Pakistan. This is a fact. Get over US weapons for God sake.
And we need to stop playing proxies for others. Havent we had enough. Pakistan should be the last country on the planet looking for a US Iran confrontation. In fact we should be doing the exact opposite. We cannot afford another war on our borders and for this exact reason Pakistan and SA does not look eye to eye irrespective of all the media hype and for this very reason we wont be joining US camp specially during PTI's tenure which has long advocated for peaceful solution of Afghanistan.

 

[TOPGUN]

Looks like Pak won’t open her airspace to India for an indefinite future...

Well, its like a dumb and foolish kid once a lesson is not thought no candy shall be given simply.

 

[truthseeker2010]

@Starlord and @The tall Guy.
My post is in response to your posts.
As compared to previously there is one major difference. The Indians had been shouting and boasting till they went hoarse and the Pak establishment had been playing it cool. Indians took it as a sign of our weakness and thought they had enough international clout to bombus and we would have to take it and keep quiet. I think the mission was to just drop bombs and maintain the narrative of Surgical strike thinking Pak side would not respond to a strike with no material damage( perhaps intentional). The Pak side decided to respond and respond in a manner that stunned their enemy. Their response to our incursions resulted in rather unfortunate loss of their platforms AND PILOTS which was not planned for by the PAF. So the opportunity came and PAF wisely and in strict persuance of international norms of engagement took it. This more than anything else is what has stung them into silence.
Now our populace jumped up and down over why the enemy had not been shot on the night of 26th. If we had invaded their air space our fate could also have been similar. So in effect this was also a training and discipline deficit between the two forces.
If the above narrative is true, then I link back to my original post onthis subject and say that further incursions would not come in the immediate future as capacity, armaments and training gaps would have to be looked into by IAF before they try again. If the time exceeds six months then they would have to stage another event to find a reason for the incursion. In my humble opinion they would now not do so for another 3-5 years.
This remains my analysis and you can shred it to bits as it is my opinion.
Wassalam
A

Indeed, paf has raised the stakes for the future indopak conflicts. Paf will have to perform even better than before because 27 feb will now be a bechmark. Human training can go to a limit but it will be the machine that will have the final say...... i am looking at either more f-16(ccip or b52) or j-10 for sure.

 

[Khafee]

Well, its like a dumb and foolish kid once a lesson is not thought no candy shall be given simply.

But you are not dealing with a kid. You are dealing with a retard.

 

[TOPGUN]

But you are not dealing with a kid. You are dealing with a retard.

Lolz true could be used in both senses " a kid who is a retard "