Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1196309823559737344

 

[jaybird]

Follow Deino's link upstairs, there are some guys posted a reflection of one J-20 pilot's helmet visor. We kind of get to see what J-20 cockpit looks like. Although not a very clear view. But still nice to finally see something....

情强铁窗泪
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1195916592355266561

 

[Indos]

Follow Deino's link upstairs, there are some guys posted a reflection of one J-20 pilot's helmet visor. We kind of get to see what J-20 cockpit looks like. Although not a very clear view. But still nice to finally see something....View attachment 590553 View attachment 590554 View attachment 590555 View attachment 590556

情强铁窗泪
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1195916592355266561

So until so far J 20 cockpit is not available for public view ?

 

[LKJ86]

So until so far J 20 cockpit is not available for public view ?

You should ask: Which fighter cockpit of PLAAF or PLAN is available for public view?

 

[jaybird]

So until so far J 20 cockpit is not available for public view ?

Yes, not just J-20 cockpit. But very difficult to find pictures of almost all new Chinese fighter jets, AEW aircraft, attack helo cockpits and warship station etc. It's usually not allow to be photographed. And censored out or Block out the sensitive parts of the photos afterward if the pictures deem vulnerable to leaking valuable information to adversaries by the magazines or newspapers.

 

[Deino]

The 8th J-20 assigned to the 9th Air Brigade at Wuhu was spotted.

(Image via yangwansan1/https://lt.cjdby.net)

... and the 2nd bird too

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1197157033314856960

 

[Fsjal]

Tbh, I do find it a shame that there's no publicly-released images of the J-20s cockpit, same with that of the J-10B/C, J-11B, J-15, J-16, and JH-7A. I understand that sensitive software shouldn't be leaked, however having some transparency and releasing a pic of the cockpit dashboard with the multi-function displays off wouldn't hurt since software secrets would still be protected.

 

[vi-va]

Tbh, I do find it a shame that there's no publicly-released images of the J-20s cockpit, same with that of the J-10B/C, J-11B, J-15, J-16, and JH-7A. I understand that sensitive software shouldn't be leaked, however having some transparency and releasing a pic of the cockpit dashboard with the multi-function displays off wouldn't hurt since software secrets would still be protected.

What's the benefit of leaking cockpit image? None.
What's the damage of not leaking? None. Just disappointed some military fans.
There is no transparency issue, it's a hoax. US would like to show muscle for deterrence, to maximize their national interest.
What we got from public internet are unclassified stuff. Our rival has more channels to get classified info than military fans.

 

[samsara]

What's the benefit of leaking cockpit image? None. Just disappointed some military fans.
What's the damage of not leaking? None.
There is no transparency issue, it's a hoax. US would like to show muscle for deterrence, to maximize their national interest.
What we got from public internet are unclassified stuff. Our rival has more channels to get classified info than military fans.

It's purely the US Empire military and politician term about “transparency issue” for its own geopolitical purpose. And they speak from the high ground position.

It's basically an oxymoron to put the words “transparency” and “military” side by side, like the "deafening silence" unless one wanna really buy into the misleading term.

One day we'll see again how and what if the Empire talks not from the position of high ground
Live long to witness the changes

 

[Fsjal]

What's the benefit of leaking cockpit image? None.
What's the damage of not leaking? None. Just disappointed some military fans.
There is no transparency issue, it's a hoax. US would like to show muscle for deterrence, to maximize their national interest.
What we got from public internet are unclassified stuff. Our rival has more channels to get classified info than military fans.

There's no harm in showing a view of a cockpit regardless if the MFDs are on or off. It's not like the US will simply look at the cockpit and then make a detailed-recreation copy based on a picture, that's like saying China looked at a pic of an Su-33, then copied it and created the J-15. I would argue that if there's no benefits of leaking cockpit image, then there's no benefits of also keeping the cockpits of the fighter jets secret too. There's already a pic of the JH-7A's cockpit, an old pic of the J-10As cockpit, and a supposed possible recreation of the J-11B's cockpit.

Plus, military-transparency isn't necessarily a random political jargon that was created by Washington DC. There's a difference between displaying 'military jingoism' and displaying simple military information and data to the public. Transparency within the military means the public knows whether the government is doing something corrupt or excessive while also giving the military accountability. Transparency is also important because accountability means the military can be put under scrutiny during accidents, @gambit summarizes it well here and even the PLA Air Force admits to the importance of military transparency.

 

[StormBreaker]

@Deino @LKJ86
How many numbers has J-20 crossed in total? And wha is the production rate and required fleet size by PLAAF?

 

[LKJ86]

Via @bingo1117 from Weixin

 

[Deino]

And now there is already the ninth J-20 confirmed from the 9th Air Brigade at Wuhu.

(Image via 捣蛋就对)

 

[Deino]

A J-20A powered by WS-10B in full reheat ...