Chengdu J-20 5th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Ethan XXX]

can anyone identify the engines?

 

[Ultima Thule]

can anyone identify the engines?

can anyone identify the engines?

from that angle no one can tell @Ethan XXX

 

[Ethan XXX]

from that angle no one can tell @Ethan XXX

picture from Sina claiming it might be WS10...although Sina is not reliable, it is better not to leave anything out

 

[Ultima Thule]

picture from Sina claiming it might be WS10...although Sina is not reliable, it is better not to leave anything out

it was one of the recent production jet, if you go to 10-15 pages back in this thread, one of pre production prototype had been equipped with WS-10, so it quite possible that this production jet is equipped with WS-10 @Ethan XXX

 

[Figaro]

can anyone identify the engines?

This is an old picture posted a couple months ago. It kind of looks like WS-10 engines but no one can tell for sure ... from what I've heard, it is a PS of an older image. Besides, there are a lot more clearer images of the WS-10X J-20 prototypes than the one above.

 

[LKJ86]

 

[Cybernetics]

"雪鸮/Snow Owl" was the program which SAC and CAC competed in for the 4th generation fighter program.

SAC's design was even larger than the J-20 and emphasised kinematic performance over stealth.

The plane on the left looks like a stealth twin engine JF-17

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

"雪鸮/Snow Owl" was the program which SAC and CAC competed in for the 4th generation fighter program.

SAC's design was even larger than the J-20 and emphasised kinematic performance over stealth.
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The plane on the left looks like a stealth twin engine JF-17
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Thank whatever gods there are CAC won is all I can say. What an ugly aircraft the "Snow Owl" is, now I know why SAC has the reputation it has.

 

[帅的一匹]

Thank whatever gods there are CAC won is all I can say. What an ugly aircraft the "Snow Owl" is, now I know why SAC has the reputation it has.

Basically, SAC is a bunch of idiot without motivation to innovate.

 

[rcrmj]

Basically, SAC is a bunch of idiot without motivation to innovate.

that is not entirely correct, it is becuase of the working "culture" and bureaucracy in the north, but SAC works really hard to make PLAAF advance and strong.... hope there is a reforme to our SOE, the current system isnt fit for ever fasting trend, this applies to CAC too!

 

[帅的一匹]

that is not entirely correct, it is becuase of the working "culture" and bureaucracy in the north, but SAC works really hard to make PLAAF advance and strong.... hope there is a reforme to our SOE, the current system isnt fit for ever fasting trend, this applies to CAC too!

Lame culture

 

[Beast]

SAC has long history of strong politician backing and they are too conservative.

 

[rcrmj]

Lame culture

this "culture" applies to all SOEs, the only difference is to what extend it goes.
actually the government should really look into the serious problems facing SOE, it becomes chronic````those SOEs in the morth are becoming more like a family "cartel", friends and relatives are all in important positions with less concern of their competence.

SOE will only do good jobs when there is a top-down authority from central government with serious strategic national security needs, like J-20, space tech and such```but the government cannot "look after" everything

 

[帅的一匹]

this "culture" applies to all SOEs, the only difference is to what extend it goes.
actually the government should really look into the serious problems facing SOE, it becomes chronic````those SOEs in the morth are becoming more like a family "cartel", friends and relatives are all in important positions with less concern of their competence.

SOE will only do good jobs when there is a top-down authority from central government with serious strategic national security needs, like J-20, space tech and such```but the government cannot "look after" everything

There is serious problem laying in North east province, they goverment is also having trouble to rectify it. Those lame practice had been embeded into their 'culture'.太懒了

And those bureaucracy has been astonishing.

And reason why Lin Zuo Ming was forced to retire is related to his arbitrary?

 

[rcrmj]

There is serious problem laying in North east province, they goverment is also having trouble to rectify it. Those lame practice had been embeded into their 'culture'.太懒了

And those bureaucracy has been astonishing.

the system makes you lazy, as soon as you get in a good position, doing nothing is the best way to survive, and it wont affect your income and welfare```