Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[The A-5]

http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2012-12-17/211128_2284432.htm#pic
J10b doing RCS test with weapon load

I think RCS testing is done by hoisting a prototype some 40-50ft high on a supported mast for getting
accurate readings. What are the other types to test RCS?

 

[Luftwaffe]

J31

will be built in smaller nos THE J20 and the J11 will form the back bone of the PLAAF

How did you assume that on the contrary J-31 could be in more numbers provided it is Selected.
It is a Prototype just like Boeing X-32... might as well be rejected in favor of something else, we do not know yet. J-20 seems to be an advance Project I consider it to be a F-22 caliber Project.

Sorry moderators, last post then back to J-10...

 

[SBD-3]

 

[Kompromat]

Sleek & Sexy.

 

[Armstrong]

Sleek & Sexy.

Astagfirullah...bhabi nu pataa chal giyaa naa that you're saying that about another 'beauty' & she'd have you lynched !

 

[Kompromat]

Astagfirullah...bhabi nu pataa chal giyaa naa that you're saying that about another 'beauty' & she'd have you lynched !

Skinned alive

 

[Thunder_Rider]

J-10B look Awsome........ Muuuuuuaaaaaaaah !!

 

[sancho]

J10b is state of art platform, which has RCS less than 1 square meter.

Source please!

 

[帅的一匹]

I can't disclose you the actual Chinese source for, the actual RCS is even smaller than 1 square meter.

 

[Storm Force]

Didnt realise

That the single MOST IMPORTANT aspect of a fighter was RCS

Do we ignore TWR. radar strength, EW suites and jammers and WEAPONS load witth different seekers.

F15 of USA. ISRASLI & JAPANEASE air forces have massive RCS DUE to their 30 year old design. YET they are the AIR SUPREMACY fighter of choice for all these major air powers way ahead of the smaller F16 FLEETS. and the all depoly F15 & F16 combo fleets.

RCS is important but RCS wont bring down the enemy for that you need the other factors

 

[SBD-3]

 

[Thunder_Rider]

Skinned alive [/QUOTE

LOL

 

[sancho]

The following is a re-post from the MP forum, I don't know if the translation is correct or not, but maybe some of the Chinese members can say something about it:

J-11 crushes J-10 in PLAAF exercise

Basically they held the largest air force mock combat exercise this year, and the results were overwhelmingly in favour of J-11. The training exercise was similar in scale to American's Red Flag. One particular J-11 pilot managed to accumulate over 42 mock kills over its J-10 opponent while only being "shot down" once. It's interesting since the results were complete reverse of just a few years ago when J-10 always manage to gain the upper hand. The past two years, units flying the J-11 has consistently outperform their opponents.

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[cnleio]

New J-10B with Russia AL-31F jet engine, not China WS-10. WTF?! still back to old time, hard to export J-10B to foreign weapon market by using Russia jet engine. BIG PROBLEM ！！！

AL-31F or WS-10 jet engine, to decide J-10B's future.

 

[Mani2020]

Didnt realise

That the single MOST IMPORTANT aspect of a fighter was RCS

Do we ignore TWR. radar strength, EW suites and jammers and WEAPONS load witth different seekers.

F15 of USA. ISRASLI & JAPANEASE air forces have massive RCS DUE to their 30 year old design. YET they are the AIR SUPREMACY fighter of choice for all these major air powers way ahead of the smaller F16 FLEETS. and the all depoly F15 & F16 combo fleets.

RCS is important but RCS wont bring down the enemy for that you need the other factors

Once again wrong USAF still have a twice as much fleet of f-16s compared to f-15s ...the f-16 fleets stand for over 1000 aircrafts for USAF while the f-15 stands for just under 500 out of which there are f-15 egales and f-15 strike eagle . ALL f-15eagle aircrafts (that are the most basic version of f-15) of USAF are modified to remain in service by 2025 and the strike eagle were introduced much later around 1988 and were not inducted before 90s so by no means they have 30 years old airframe like you are suggesting . Strike eagle has relatively low RCS compared to the basic version .So here goes one point

Second point israelis too operate higher number of f-16s compared to f-15s .... almost 40% of their inventory of f-15s is of strike eagles again the airframe is not that old as you are suggesting...all the f-15s of israel has been extensively modified ones and quite different from the original variants .Here goes another point

currently just 3 operators for F-15 eagles other than US

Last but not the least f-16 is the still most sold aircraft of US and easily leaves f-15 sales behind ...even a countries like turkey are using them in large numbers

And at your f-15 f-16 combo point apart form israel, south korea and singapore nobody operates a combo of f-15 and f-16s , the later one in a very small numbers

Japanese don't operate f-16s