Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[The Eagle]

What J-10 PLAAF had, Is that 320x J-10A + 130x J-10S + 50+ J-10B + 120+ J-10C = 650x J-10 fighters ??? @Deino


2nd batch of 27th new J-10C fighter
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So a lot of new year gifts.

 

[cnleio]

So a lot of new year gifts.

Since 1st J-10A N.o1001 prototype take off in 1994, 1st J-10A joint PLAAF in 2004 ... China had already produced J-10 fighters more than 15 years.

 

[onebyone]

What J-10 PLAAF had, Is that 320x J-10A + 130x J-10S + 53x J-10B + 120+ J-10C = 650x J-10 fighters ??? @Deino Or is that 170x J-10A + 80x J-10S + 53x J-10B + 80x J-10C = 400x J-10 fighters ???

Which one is more possible ?

2nd batch of 27th new J-10C fighter
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OH my God 650X J-10

 

[cnleio]

OH my God 650X J-10

I can't make sure yet, so need @Deino help ... i remember one batch = 20~24x jets but there's a '153' make me confused ... i do think there should be 400~500x J-10A/S/B/C fighters in PLAAF.

 

[The Eagle]

Since 1st J-10A N.o1001 prototype take off in 1994, 1st J-10A joint PLAAF in 2004 ... China had already produced J-10 fighters more than 15 years.

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I tried to say that more new birds, new batches and new addition. Happy at end at all....

 

[cnleio]

I tried to say that more new birds, new batches and new addition. Happy at end at all....

Yes ... the ChengDu aircraft manufacturing company produced hundreds J-10 fighters, but there no more new J-10A coz new product update to beautiful J-10C, producing continue not stop ... such new multi-role single-jet fighter also to build hundreds for PLAAF like F-16C/D for USAF. I only wish we can provide enough mature WS-10A jet engines for these new birds not AL-31F alone.

Inside PLAAF J-10A cockpit

 

[Deino]

I can't make sure yet, so need @Deino help ... i remember one batch = 20~24x jets but there's a '153' make me confused ... i do think there should be 400~500x J-10A/S/B/C fighters in PLAAF.

Thanks for Your confidence. First of all You need to know how CAC serials its aircraft: the first number on production aircraft is usually the production batch or block, while the last two digits are the individual number of that certain bird within that batch.

As such there are not 630 J-10A but it is the 30. aircraft of batch 6. The problem now that these batches are not equally large - as we just see of the first batch J-10B - and I lost a bit my list of the numbers, however we know that there are 7. batches for the J-10A and 3 for the S/AS ... and now 2 for the B/C. The first batches were significantly smaller than the later ones

I made a compilation / summary in late 2013 of all the info I gathered around:

The first three production blocks were only of 24 aircraft each + the lot 00 prototypes & pre-serials

J-10 + J-10A
J10-Block 00: only mystery and estimated between 14-16: Prototypes 1001-1006 + 01-06 at FTTC + ?
J10-Block 01: 24 – to 44.FD
J10-Block 02: 24 – to 3. FD
J10-Block 03: 24 – to 2. FD + 1. FD
J10A-Block 04: 40 – to . FD + 1. FD + 24. FD
J10A-Block 05: 40 – to Ba Yi + PLANAF 4. AD/8.AR
J10A-Block 06: 40 – to 9. FD + upgrade of other units
J10A-Block 07: 40 – current block: will go to 12. FD + PLANAF 9. AD (strangely 25. AR with J-8DH/H and not the

J-10S + AS
J10S-Block 01: 10 (??) – to 3. FD + 2. FD + 1. FD
J10AS-Block 02: 40 – 24. FD + all other units …

Last aircraft built in 2012 was 7-08, so the production lot for 2013 will be the reminder of this lot. Quite remarkable, the often reported second production line must be finished in about 2011 since 2012 nearly 47 (confirmed) other say even 60 aircraft were build.

Andi

Overall I think it is save to assume that with now for the serials A and AS (7 batches of A + 3 batches of S/AS) + the B/C-production at 55 J-10B and 27 J-10C I come to a sum of:

232 J-10A
90 J-10AS
55 J-10B
27 J-10C
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404 serial J-10 of all versions (without the prototypes)

All the best,
Deino

 

[55100864]

That's a very tight turn, but it could lose a lot of energy.

 

[Beast]

That's a very tight turn, but it could lose a lot of energy.

If your enemy is chasing you or missile is homing on, they could lose more by try keeping up with you.

 

[cnleio]

Thanks for Your confidence. First of all You need to know how CAC serials its aircraft: the first number on production aircraft is usually the production batch or block, while the last two digits are the individual number of that certain bird within that batch.

As such there are not 630 J-10A but it is the 30. aircraft of batch 6. The problem now that these batches are not equally large - as we just see of the first batch J-10B - and I lost a bit my list of the numbers, however we know that there are 7. batches for the J-10A and 3 for the S/AS ... and now 2 for the B/C. The first batches were significantly smaller than the later ones

I made a compilation / summary in late 2013 of all the info I gathered around:



Overall I think it is save to assume that with now for the serials A and AS (7 batches of A + 3 batches of S/AS) + the B/C-production at 55 J-10B and 27 J-10C I come to a sum of:

232 J-10A
100 J-10AS
55 J-10B
27 J-10C
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414 serial J-10 of all versions (without the prototypes)

All the best,
Deino

1. My friend, after i check & research carefully again ... i found one batch of J-10A and J-10S should be 40x fighters.
2. I agree ur list about J-10B and J-10C ... currently ChengDu produced new 55x J-10B and 27x J-10C fighters, 1st batch all r J-10B and 2nd batch start J-10C.
3. I disagree ur list about J-10A and J-10C ... each batch more like 40x fighters, 7 batch of J-10A should be 280x and 3 batch of J-10S should be 120x

I do believe one batch produced 40x J-10A and J-10S (at least over 35x), these photos can prove im right, new J-10A/S serial numbers 35 ~ 39.

So my conclusion is ... 7 batch of J-10A + 3 batch of J-10S, + 1 batch of J-10B + 1 batch of J-10C,there'r

280x J-10A
120x J-10AS
55x J-10B
27x J-10C
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PLAAF totally has 482x serial J-10 of all versions (without the prototypes)

 

[Deino]

1. My friend, after i check & research carefully again ... i found one batch of J-10A and J-10S should be 40x fighters.
2. I agree ur list about J-10B and J-10C ... currently ChengDu produced new 55x J-10B and 27x J-10C fighters, 1st batch all r J-10B and 2nd batch start J-10C.
3. I disagree ur list about J-10A and J-10C ... each batch more like 40x fighters, 7 batch of J-10A should be 280x and 3 batch of J-10S should be 120x

I do believe one batch produced 40x J-10A and J-10S (at least over 35x), these photos can prove im right, new J-10A/S serial numbers 35 ~ 39.

So my conclusion is ... 7 batch of J-10A + 3 batch of J-10S, + 1 batch of J-10B + 1 batch of J-10C,there'r

280x J-10A
120x J-10AS
55x J-10B
27x J-10C
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PLAAF totally has 482x serial J-10 of all versions (without the prototypes)

To admit I have to disagree, since we have never seen any of the first batches with a number larger that 24 ... if You have I will surely correct my estimation, but so far I know not a single J-10A from batch 01 - 03 with more than 24 aircraft and for the AS in batch 1 beyond no. 10.

As far as I know this lower early production rate is related to the fact that for long only one assembly line was producing the J-10, while the J-7 was still in production. After the J-7 line was closed and converted to the J-10 too the number of aircraft per batch increased.

All the best,
Deino

 

[The Eagle]

Yes ... the ChengDu aircraft manufacturing company produced hundreds J-10 fighters, but there no more new J-10A coz new product update to beautiful J-10C, producing continue not stop ... such new multi-role single-jet fighter also to build hundreds for PLAAF like F-16C/D for USAF. I only wish we can provide enough mature WS-10A jet engines for these new birds not AL-31F alone.

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Inside PLAAF J-10A cockpit

Indeed production of a bird in huge numbers with different batches indicates the trust in it though the Al 31 is not there forever and hopefully China is working very smart and hard for WS-10 and further to WS 15 as well. So fingers crossed for our Chinese friends and more gifts. Happy production mate.

 

[cnleio]

 

[cirr]

 

[Martian2]

Whoever took the picture probably did not adjust the light level correctly.

I used IrfanView's software function "Auto adjust colors" to fix the problem. You can see a lot more detail with proper lighting.