Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

[sweetgrape]

Japan should be our first ally, our goal should always be the world and not Asia.

Japan is close to us and developed, having her as an ally would benefit us more than having her as an enemy.

Like Zhang Yi's plan for qin, or Bismark's plan for Austria, we must turn Japan into our ally, and it's unfortunate 10-15 years more before we can achieve this.

So a war may be necessary, but only in a very limited scope.

That's good wish, but if you want to turn Japan into our ally, first you must conquer it.
even that, as Japanese character, they will backstab you any time, so, you have to control it completely, don't loose the control, or, they will retaliate you for your comquering on them, kill your offspring.

 

[帅的一匹]

Japan should be our first ally, our goal should always be the world and not Asia.

Japan is close to us and developed, having her as an ally would benefit us more than having her as an enemy.

Like Zhang Yi's plan for qin, or Bismark's plan for Austria, we must turn Japan into our ally, and it's unfortunate 10-15 years more before we can achieve this.

So a war may be necessary, but only in a very limited scope.

A cat wanna be friend of mouse will never be a good cat.

任何想和日寇媾和的人都是民族败类。

看看鸠山由纪夫的下场。日本普通老百姓就算想和中国搞好关系的话。日本右翼会答应么？美国鬼子会同意么？日本是一个变态的民族。现在是， 过去是， 将来也是。如果你爱日本， 就往死里揍他。

亚洲只有一个老大，就是中国！

 

[帅的一匹]

日本现在就是一个被美帝控制的魔鬼，美国人迟早会自食其果。只要我们这代人守住优势，就能造福子孙。与其让我们的后辈流血，不如我们这代打残日本。

中国万岁！

That's good wish, but if you want to turn Japan into our ally, first you must conquer it.
even that, as Japanese character, they will backstab you any time, so, you have to control it completely, don't loose the control, or, they will retaliate you for your comquering on them, kill your offspring.

If Japanese are aliens , Chinese must be predators.

Japan should be our first ally, our goal should always be the world and not Asia.

Japan is close to us and developed, having her as an ally would benefit us more than having her as an enemy.

Like Zhang Yi's plan for qin, or Bismark's plan for Austria, we must turn Japan into our ally, and it's unfortunate 10-15 years more before we can achieve this.

So a war may be necessary, but only in a very limited scope.

跟畜生谈感情就是浪费时间， 对日只能强硬强硬再强硬。想和日本做盟友？先核平东京再说。

 

[Fsjal]

If Japanese are aliens , Chinese must be predators.

Pretty much you're saying that the Chinese are hi-tech while Japanese are feral.

 

[帅的一匹]

要是美国没有在广岛和长崎投下两棵核弹， 日本会做美国的盟友？醒醒吧朋友们，别再用自己的热脸去贴别人的屁股了。

 

[Kompromat]

@wanglaokan

Pakistani engineers have reportedly worked on the B. Especially in the cockpit layout etc.

The issue is that we are at war and 'overspent'. Not much FDI is coming through. However recently our economy has outgrown India in 2012 and is showing signs of a come back.

Let me remind you that Pakistan's Armed Forces Development Program 2025, was envisioned in 2002 at a time when economy was doing good until 2005 earthquake struck.

Lets hope with the war clouds dispersing, Iran gas pipeline, SinoPak corridor, Thar coal, Gwadar port, Shale reserves and Gul train projects slowly taking shape, we will realize our economic potential.

It might be a bit too late for the J-10B, however as the Airforce commander said 'all chinese options are open to us'.

 

[帅的一匹]

I love Pakistanis, the most sincere people in the world.

 

[MohitV]

i can see some evil conspiracy going on over here

 

[Kompromat]

I love Pakistanis, the most sincere people in the world.

But for a specific nation in the region both of us are villains.

 

[Contrarian]

However recently our economy has outgrown India in 2012 and is showing signs of a come back.

No it didnt. I saw the other thread too.
Here are facts:

Real GDP growth for 2012-13 has been estimated at 3.6 percent
1. http://finance.gov.pk/survey/chapters_13/HGHLIGHTS 2013.pdf
2. Economic Survey: GDP growth rate remained 3.7% in outgoing financial year

India

"As per the Advance Estimates released by the Central Statistics Office, the growth rate of GDP (at factor cost at constant 2004-05) is estimated to be 5 percent in 2012-13. This growth rate is the lowest during the period 2003-04 to 2012-13," Minister of State for Finance Namo Narain Meena said in a written reply to the Lok Sabha.

Read more at: Indian GDP estimated at 5% in FY13, lowest since FY04: Govt - Moneycontrol.com

 

[Genesis]

A cat wanna be friend of mouse will never be a good cat.

任何想和日寇媾和的人都是民族败类。

看看鸠山由纪夫的下场。日本普通老百姓就算想和中国搞好关系的话。日本右翼会答应么？美国鬼子会同意么？日本是一个变态的民族。现在是， 过去是， 将来也是。如果你爱日本， 就往死里揍他。

亚洲只有一个老大，就是中国！

That's what the war is for, win a war, have a better country in terms of prestige and economy. When we win, we would take the islands, but give Japanese economic rights. Two steps forward one step back.

We will take these islands not because we could, but because they originally belonged to us.

Allies are not friends, we don't have to like each other, but the other does have to do what we want.


Warring states period, Qin defeated Wei and the rest of the three jin states, made them allies instead of taking over land.

This made sure the Qin border was never again troubled and that Qin can launch strikes against the others.

Japan will always be next to us, we can either take over them or be allies. Since taking over is stupid and crazy and ultimately ineffective, become allies is much better choice.

Remember, our goal is the Super power of the east. India due to it's population may challenge us, so having our borders clear of trouble is very important.

 

[帅的一匹]

Chinese are smart, hardworking, benevolent. We don't want to harm others if it could be avoided.

 

[Informant]

J-10B is 4 years away minimum, Mig 35 has higher maintenance and acquisition costs.

 

[MohitV]

But for a specific nation in the region both of us are villains.

bhutan ???

 

[nomi007]