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Chengdu J-10 Multirole Fighter Air Craft News & Discussions

J-10B is in mass production in Chengdu, a picture shows a yellow J10b ready for take service soon. one could tell this by the IRST and the EW suit on its tail top.
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The first batch of J10B will be equipped with AL-31FN engines. And WS-10A will follow on the second batch, the same routine as we do on J11B. China will keep buying AL-31F from Russia to fill up the gap due to inadequate production capacity of WS10A. The reason why China stock so many Al-31F is to prevent engine shortage if a war break up with Japan any time possible, might USA will get involved too. The estimated loss of fighter of PLAAF in the first three days would be 300 plus. We need at least 1000 pieice of AL31F in our stock for emergency back-up. As long as China pay hard cash, Russia will produce on full scale. It's type of weird ally. We need another 3 or 5 years to get over this barricade, until that, China will keep importing Russian engines.
 
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We have to work very hard to ensure WS-13 put in service before 2015. This will enhance the national defence security level of Pakistan, cause no string will be pulled by third party in war time.
 
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its artical gives some relief we are getting J10B the JF17 spotted with tail no 75 means the no are 75 for sure on PAF 25 more soon that's great and love to se e J10B performing at the china air show 2012

im sorry, where was jf-17 spotted with the tail no 75?
maybe i missed something..
 
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MashaALLAH. Hard work is going on. Best of luck to Chengdu and PAC.
 
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No chance of getting fc20 until or unless the chinese engine is matured. most importantly we dont even have sufficient fund to buy one squadron of fc20 let alone a full fleet.

i think we should keep in mind the statement in mind china said Pakistan is its Israel so the have already promised us 50 JF17 at zero cost its really big favor for PAF and two new stealth 5th gen programs on the way these kind of statements is to keep the completion happy engines will be in the production soon Jet engines are the most difficult part of a jet need years of testing and tuning and J10B 2 squad is must the Parliament cant get funds for it or another marshal law zero personall expense of the democracy gov buy 4 squad :lol:

I love the blue and white , colors on J10 just a very very beautiful bird

beside the colors J10B fresh paint full payload looks much killer :guns:

Bhai jan yeh bata dain kab yeh pakistan ko milaneen gay....

bahi jan jab sabar karo need to replace F7 and mirages first with JF17 :lol:
 
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i think we should keep in mind the statement in mind china said Pakistan is its Israel so the have already promised us 50 JF17 at zero cost its really big favor for PAF and two new stealth 5th gen programs on the way these kind of statements is to keep the completion happy engines will be in the production soon Jet engines are the most difficult part of a jet need years of testing and tuning and J10B 2 squad is must the Parliament cant get funds for it or another marshal law zero personall expense of the democracy gov buy 4 squad :lol:



beside the colors J10B fresh paint full payload looks much killer :guns:



bahi jan jab sabar karo need to replace F7 and mirages first with JF17 :lol:


Well let me tell you something my friend, as a business student the first thing they make you learn

" There is no such thing as a free meal"

Let me translate it in to in this situation of China-Pak ties, sure both the countries are BFF's (as we teens like to call it) but its because we are mutually beneficial for each other, Pakistan is practically a free ticket to warm waters for China so ofcourse they will help us out because we are helping them out and have so in the past....

However lets just assume that we are not able to keep our end of the bargain or at one point become useless, thats the point we have to think over and develop an indigenous industry .....while we keep making fun of our indian counterparts I do feel that theoretically what they are trying to accomplish will cause a great disparity (yes greater than it already is in terms of technology and know how) ... (assuming that they get there ... but as we know they are still struggling .... but thats good for them cuz atleast they have tried to make an effort in the right direction for themselves and their future generations)

I know this will strike some nerves but some times truth does that..
 
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Well let me tell you something my friend, as a business student the first thing they make you learn

" There is no such thing as a free meal"

Let me translate it in to in this situation of China-Pak ties, sure both the countries are BFF's (as we teens like to call it) but its because we are mutually beneficial for each other, Pakistan is practically a free ticket to warm waters for China so ofcourse they will help us out because we are helping them out and have so in the past....

However lets just assume that we are not able to keep our end of the bargain or at one point become useless, thats the point we have to think over and develop an indigenous industry .....while we keep making fun of our indian counterparts I do feel that theoretically what they are trying to accomplish will cause a great disparity (yes greater than it already is in terms of technology and know how) ... (assuming that they get there ... but as we know they are still struggling .... but thats good for them cuz atleast they have tried to make an effort in the right direction for themselves and their future generations)


I know this will strike some nerves but some times truth does that..
my friend. pakistan is now doing well in developing your own indigenous industry now.
however, i believe, you should also know that if chinese people are so shrewd businessmen as you commented, china would have be a complete capitalist country long before:azn:
 
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Looking into the past, USA was with Pakistan once, now pro India. That's called geo strategic relationship. China and Pakistan keep brotherhood relationship no matter how dramatically the world has changed. I mean Chinese needs pakistan's friendship, that's all. We don't care what Pakistan could do or could not do, cause we are brothers. Please give me thanks if anyone agree with me. Chinese love pakistani.
 
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Looking into the past, USA was with Pakistan once

Negative, they sanctioned us when our neck was on the line in 65 and 71.

now pro India.

Negative, US is only pro US. They are trying the same theory on India which they tried on Pakistan in 60s and 70s.

That's called geo strategic relationship.

It was and is a Master & Slave relationship -- i have no shame in saying that. They have raped Pakistan for decades, specially using us a whip against Soviets in Afghanistan. If it wasn't for American intervention the USSR had no plans to invade Afghanistan. They simply didn't want soviets accessing Karachi.

China and Pakistan keep brotherhood relationship no matter how dramatically the world has changed. I mean Chinese needs pakistan's friendship, that's all. We don't care what Pakistan could do or could not do, cause we are brothers. Please give me thanks if anyone agree with me. Chinese love pakistani.

Trade-Business-Trade-Business-Business-Business. This will form a solid base for SINOPAK ties in the region. Canada became Canada by simply exporting beef and other trivial products to the US through a priority trade agreement. I, wish to see the same between SinoPak. China will be the largest economy on earth in 2016, we want our share of trade not aid. A true relationship would the one based on mutual benefits, and saving each other's *** in the time of need.
 
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