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Exactly we are nice people,

Keys

Do you think we are on the path for world/regional domination, do you think considering the players in our neighbourhood, do you think we are capable of breaking their shackles and moving ahead

In the world of politics it's not about who is nice and who is not....It's all about schoolyard rules and the big guy trying to stay on top...If India suddenly became the major player in the region I think they would find the world a lot less friendly.
 
I have to repeat what China said last week "US is a Whining Neighbor". For god sakes US spends what half the world spends on weapons, etc. US should stop supporting Taiwan which is right-fully Chinas' before they bark like dogs. As I said in another thread US isn't capable of doing anything to stop China just watch China move on.

Most of all no one has to tell US how much is being spent on weapons it's non of their business.

China's Nominal GDP is ~$3 trillion while its official defense spending is $58 billion so its estimated spending is 3 x 58 = $174 billion (rough estimate)

US GDP is ~$13 trillion its defense spending is ~$500 billion

US GDP is 4.3 times China's while its defense outlay is only 2.9 times china's
defense budget.
so ideally US should be spending more and China should be spending less.
 
China increases its defence budget and US goes crazy while no one is bothered by the Indians increasing their budget

our defense budget increased by 7.8 % while our gdp increased by 8.3% ..

..so as a percentage of GDP our defense budget has decreased compared to previous year.

still you are worried..?


Higher Indian defence spending fails to bring cheer

By Y.P. Rajesh

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - The government raised its defence spending on Wednesday by an expected 7.8 percent to nearly $22 billion for 2007/08, but the increase was not expected to speed up the modernisation of one of the world's largest militaries.

New Delhi, the developing world's biggest buyer of arms, has a shopping list of fighter jets, helicopters, cargo planes, missiles, radars, naval patrol aircraft and artillery for its 1.3 million-strong force.

However, the latest increase in funding was roughly in line with inflation and defence analysts said spending had fallen as a percentage of GDP due to fiscal pressures and larger outlays for health, education and the flagging farm sector.

This would ensure modernisation remained incremental at a time India's security needs were multiplying and neighbours China and Pakistan were paying more attention to their militaries, they said.

"This increase is neither here nor there," said C. Uday Bhaskar of New Delhi's Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses. "The fact that funds allotted for modernisation last year were not fully utilised is also not very encouraging."

"Arms purchase procedures are not as nimble and as quick as they ought to be," he said, adding that this had resulted in part of each of the past three years' budgets remaining unspent. "There is a need to address this lacuna now more so than ever."

India, which has the world's fourth largest military, embarked on an ambitious plan to modernise its largely Soviet-era arms in the late 1990s as it began to assert its political and military power in South Asia and the Indian Ocean region.

Over the past three years, it has bought fighter and trainer jets, an aircraft carrier, submarines, missiles, radars and electronic warfare systems, making it the developing world's biggest arms buyer in 2004 and 2005.

However, much more needs to be acquired to replace ageing equipment, with no room for complacency despite peace on its frontiers with China and Pakistan, with whom it has fought wars, defence analysts said.

Besides, a career in the military needs to be made more lucrative to attract high-quality recruits to handle modern weapons at a time India's booming economy was driving youngsters towards better-paying jobs, they said.

Purchases, however, have been slow and staggered as running costs account for about 60 percent of the defence budget, which is expected to be hit this year by inflation hovering close to 7 percent.

Also, decision-making has been slow as politicians and bureaucrats are wary of approving purchases after a series of arms purchase scandals since the late 1980s.

"India is sitting on Asia's hotbed of jihadi fervour on one hand and has China to its north which is spending phenomenal amounts of money on its military," said Bharat Verma, editor of the Indian Defence Review.

"When you look at that scenario, a few dollars here and a few dollars there is not going to really kickstart the modernisation process," he said.

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2007-02-28T190849Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-289532-1.xml&archived=False
 
Pot calling kettle black, what about the new virgina class submarine? F-22 raptors? B-2 bombers? Aircraft carriers?

Come On Dude..
This is all for peaceful purposes!:partay:
You know they are keeping a peaceful enviorenment in IRAQ, Palistine, Pakistan, Afghanistan and soon IRAN, North Korea, Vanezualla etc. etc. They need it! What china is doing for peace!:rofl: :rofl:
Kashif
 
Come On Dude..
This is all for peaceful purposes!:partay:
You know they are keeping a peaceful enviorenment in IRAQ, Palistine, Pakistan, Afghanistan and soon IRAN, North Korea, Vanezualla etc. etc. They need it! What china is doing for peace!:rofl: :rofl:
Kashif

China is doing nothing for PEACE :sick:
they are just focusing on economic goals right now intead of screwing middle east resources like US.
 
China is doing nothing for PEACE :sick:
they are just focusing on economic goals right now intead of screwing middle east resources like US.

China is not capable of screwing anybody right now, just wait till they have the ability US has.
 
News from US as well, guess it's not off the topic.

China not a strategic adversary: US defense chief
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Mar 8, 2007

US Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Wednesday he does not see China as a strategic adversary of the United States despite its rapid military modernization.
China's recent announcement of a nearly 18 percent increase in military spending this year to 45 billion dollars "doesn't say much at all about China's intentions," Gates said.
"I do not see China, at this point, as a strategic adversary of the United States," he said. "It's a partner in some respects. It's a competitor in other respects, and so we are simply watching to see what they're doing."
The secretary's mild reaction stood in contrast with the White House's expressions of concern over China's announcement of its 2007 budget, and criticism of its military buildup by Vice President Dick Cheney.
On a trip to Australia last month, Cheney said a recent Chinese anti-satellite test and the military buildup were "not consistent with China's stated goal of a 'peaceful rise'."
Gates said China clearly is making a significant investment in its military forces and he guessed that the budget announced by Beijing "does not represent their entire military budget."
"I think that greater transparency would help, from the standpoint of the Chinese, in terms of both what they're doing and what their strategies are, their intent in modernizing these forces, greater openness about the purposes," he said.
"I think it's very important for us to engage the Chinese on all facets of our relationship as a way of building mutual confidence," he said.
General Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the US military considers military capabilities that countries are developing, regardless of their intent.
"We assure ourselves that we can deal with that capacity and that we have an overmatching capacity for that, and where we don't, that we ask in the budget for the funding to be able to address that gap if it exists," he said.
 
China is not capable of screwing anybody right now, just wait till they have the ability US has.

Even if they have that ability, you need guts to screw anyone when other super powers co-exist.
 
Capable or not,China has no strategy of challenging the US,but both ability and determination in self-defence. Were the anything found offensive against US army,that's must for Taiwan. The US govt. actually knows it well in this regard,and so came again the words yesterday from house of representatives that China is not a threat but a copartner.

I don't think it a very good idea for internet warriors to frustrate China day after day by dint of the US military force,instead of themselves'. Fortunately,the world is not going under command of people who never know where to draw the line.
 
Internet Warriors can Irrititate Commie Government
 
China is doing nothing for PEACE :sick:
they are just focusing on economic goals right now intead of screwing middle east resources like US.

:P :P yeh and now US is eyeing to screw food for getting some more resources :P

indeed working for eleminating poverty ;)
 
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