Chavismo goes ISIS: Chavistas Decapitate Venezuelan Dissidents

[Omar Al-Deek]

Chavismo goes ISIS: Chavistas Decapitate Dissidents

I am not posting a link because.... I don't want to post a link to...... what you would be seeing. I know some non-Latin Americans might be umm.... not exactly used to hearing about these kinds of things (not trying to insult people, I just say this because..... Latin Americans are used to hearing about this kind of stuff whereas when I talk to others, they tend to not want to hear about such things... read about El Mozote and read the Mexican news if you want to know what I mean)

anyways, this is the news article

Venezuela: colectivos chavistas ya decapitan como ISIS
Circula en redes sociales un vídeo en el que matones del chavismo muestran como trofeos las cabezas de dos opositores a los que acaban de decapitar


if you've ever wanted to see.... ummmmm..... I don't want to upset people......... (personally I don't really care if I upset people but I would like to not be censored)... anyways..... if you are brave, you can google and pull up the article..... and you can see something very disturbing.....

if you want to see some very disturbing stuff.... well you're free to.... and I invite you to so you can see..... what I saw.......


anyways..... I heard about this on a South American forum.....

but meanwhile why did hardly anyone outside the Spanish-speaking world hear about this????

if the opposition between the US-Israel bloc and the Russia-China bloc is real...... then why did the international media not report this???????? why did CNN not tell people?????? the cold war then and today is fake and both sides are puppets controlled by the same people.....

 

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As you said, this kind of violence is fairly common in South America, the Mexican cartels love of decapitating their enemies is well documented. State violence and death flights in Chile and Argentina..

but it rarely makes much international news.. maybe because there are no nuclear threats involved ?

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

As you said, this kind of violence is fairly common in South America, the Mexican cartels love of decapitating their enemies is well documented. State violence and death flights in Chile and Argentina..

but it rarely makes much international news.. maybe because there are no nuclear threats involved ?

What you say is true. It's the same with Kashmir, I think.

I hear Pakistanis talk about Kashmir. However, honestly I am sad to say that I don't believe that I really understand the Kashmir issue. I have heard Pakistanis talk about it and talk against the oppression of the people in Kashmir and I can see it is taken very seriously and I think it is something that unites Pakistanis, that Pakistanis are united on the issue.

I believe Muslims are One Ummah and I believe that what happens to Muslims in Kashmir should concern me as much as what happens to Muslims in Palestine or anywhere else.

However, it saddens me that I honestly don't really think I understand the Kashmir issue. I understand that Modi has revoked the independence of IOK if I understand correctly and that the people have had a curfew imposed. However, I don't really understand the Kashmir issue. It is extremely vague to me, although I am for whatever is for Muslims.

I had not even heard about the Kashmir issue until a Pakistani mentioned it to me. However, even then it was something sort of similar to what I see.... I could see that the Pakistani that mentioned was very passionate about it and felt very strongly...... but I do not really understand the issue.

I think now there is more international exposure in regards to the issue because of what has happened recently but if I was to mention Kashmir to my family members I think they would have a blank, confused expression. I doubt they've heard of Kashmir.

Why has there been silence about the Kashmir issue? Why have many not heard about it and been educated about it? It has been ignored and even if it is explained to the international audiences- until recently when Modi made the oppression very blatant and obvious, I think it was not well-explained why Pakistan should be supported on the issue, why Pakistan rather than India. An Indian talked about Kashmir with me and said Kashmir should belong to India and I wasn't really sure how to refute them.

There is a lack of caring among many people. Many people I think do not care about others and do not have concern for others. You have the suffering in many places (including Mexico and Latin America, which I do care about but not exclusively... I want good for those places but I am not one who is only concerned with their own particular ethnic group) but many people do not care unless it affects them.....

it's like as you described it..... "maybe because there are no nuclear threats involved". When Cuba had the nuclear weapons and there was the Cuban Missile Crisis.... then the US was concerned..... but mostly, unless people think that it may affect them personally, it seems that many are not concerned with others

 

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I honestly don't really think I understand the Kashmir issue.

Don't blame yourself, a great number of Indians and Pakistanis don't understand the issue either and rely exclusively on whatever 'anti other side' propaganda their governments peddle. People are simple, they're happy to hate the Hindus or Muslims on the other side.

Its also human nature to not care that much about conflicts on the other side of the globe.

Here on this forum there a lot of nerds who are into history, military conflict and geopolitics. Which is why you are interested in Kashmir and I've read about the vuelos de la muerte (actually become a funny meme in American politics where people on the right hold signs advertising "free helicopter rides" for leftists/socialists. The Taliban did that too, btw.

I know a lot of Kashmiri muslims here in India, some are very good friends, and then I know a lot of traders/craftsmen who work for half the year in the tourist season in a popular city in south India. Had open discussions with them on the issue many times, and a lot of them don't really know the history too well either

There has been a low intensity militancy/separatist problem there since late 80s. The insurgents have stepped up their jihad game lately and have been resorting to increasingly more dangerous tactics such as powerful VBIEDs.

Young (probably unemployed and desperate) mobs of young men like to pelt stones at the security forces, traditionally after friday brayers. Then they get responded to with non lethal tear gas and pellet guns.

Pakistan has not helped matters either with their intel and military sending in highly trained fidayeen suicide squad infiltrators.

Indian armed forces have also on occasion broken protocol and there have been instances of nasty excessive force being used.

The current nationalist government led by Modi revoked the special autonomous status that was granted to Kashmir (which includes land held by Pakistan) in October of 1949 because there was no end in sight to the status quo. Militancy/terrorism/separatism.. all while a handful of powerful dynasties got even richer as the people remained poor, no infrastructure, no development, which resulted in militant violence (all aided by Pakistan)

These recent administrative changes will hopefully allow for investment in and infrastructure building in Kashmir. India is a good economic success story, we have to integrate Kashmir and Kashmiris into it.

Don't listen to the Pakistanis, who, with their Prime Minister leading the charge... have gone completely crazy screaming about "genocide/fascism/nazis.."

Kashmir will be fine, just hope Modi does not do anything insane like trying to win back what India lost in 1948, let Pakistan keep what they have and make it an international border and finish the fight.

Also, just to conclude.. 99% of Kashmiri culture/language/customs/cuisine/.. everything is in Indian Kashmir. Pakistan have a tiny sliver of land they call "free kashmir" but those people are not "Kahmiris" culturally, they are Punjabis for the most part. Very interestingly, it is because of this BIG cultural divide between the people in Indian and Pakistan held Kashmir, that joining Pakistan has very little appeal for Kashmiris.

Hope you have somewhat of a better idea now.

 

[Omar Al-Deek]

Don't blame yourself, a great number of Indians and Pakistanis don't understand the issue either and rely exclusively on whatever 'anti other side' propaganda their governments peddle. People are simple, they're happy to hate the Hindus or Muslims on the other side.

Its also human nature to not care that much about conflicts on the other side of the globe.

Here on this forum there a lot of nerds who are into history, military conflict and geopolitics. Which is why you are interested in Kashmir and I've read about the vuelos de la muerte (actually become a funny meme in American politics where people on the right hold signs advertising "free helicopter rides" for leftists/socialists. The Taliban did that too, btw.

I know a lot of Kashmiri muslims here in India, some are very good friends, and then I know a lot of traders/craftsmen who work for half the year in the tourist season in a popular city in south India. Had open discussions with them on the issue many times, and a lot of them don't really know the history too well either

There has been a low intensity militancy/separatist problem there since late 80s. The insurgents have stepped up their jihad game lately and have been resorting to increasingly more dangerous tactics such as powerful VBIEDs.

Young (probably unemployed and desperate) mobs of young men like to pelt stones at the security forces, traditionally after friday brayers. Then they get responded to with non lethal tear gas and pellet guns.

Pakistan has not helped matters either with their intel and military sending in highly trained fidayeen suicide squad infiltrators.

Indian armed forces have also on occasion broken protocol and there have been instances of nasty excessive force being used.

The current nationalist government led by Modi revoked the special autonomous status that was granted to Kashmir (which includes land held by Pakistan) in October of 1949 because there was no end in sight to the status quo. Militancy/terrorism/separatism.. all while a handful of powerful dynasties got even richer as the people remained poor, no infrastructure, no development, which resulted in militant violence (all aided by Pakistan)

These recent administrative changes will hopefully allow for investment in and infrastructure building in Kashmir. India is a good economic success story, we have to integrate Kashmir and Kashmiris into it.

Don't listen to the Pakistanis, who, with their Prime Minister leading the charge... have gone completely crazy screaming about "genocide/fascism/nazis.."

Kashmir will be fine, just hope Modi does not do anything insane like trying to win back what India lost in 1948, let Pakistan keep what they have and make it an international border and finish the fight.

Also, just to conclude.. 99% of Kashmiri culture/language/customs/cuisine/.. everything is in Indian Kashmir. Pakistan have a tiny sliver of land they call "free kashmir" but those people are not "Kahmiris" culturally, they are Punjabis for the most part. Very interestingly, it is because of this BIG cultural divide between the people in Indian and Pakistan held Kashmir, that joining Pakistan has very little appeal for Kashmiris.

Hope you have somewhat of a better idea now.

I appreciate you trying to explain......

however.... I would want to hear the Pakistani side..... I think you have given the pro-Indian side.... and no way am I hostile to anyone simply for being Indian......

but I'm already on a side..... I'm against Hindutva and is it not the case that Modi may have been linked to what happened in Gujarat? I already was interested in the Kashmir issue before I was on PDF.. one of my really good friends is Pakistani and I've hung around a lot of South Asian people....... plus I find the subcontinent fascinating... also I know it may sound funny but I really do see us as cousins..... it's believed that the native peoples of the Americas came here from Asia...... Asian people might think it's funny but I do see us as long-lost Asians (at least on the indigenous side- not on the Spanish side, as I'm mestizo).... plus Santa Muerte and Kali remind me of each other (although I'm against the worship of both.. or either)........

anyways..... I am not in favor of Modi..... if it was possible, I would like to see brought back the rule of Aurangzeb

you read about the helicopter rides? yes, I have seen the memes........

but that is cool you've read about it..... personally, I'm kind of pro-Pinochet....... imo though, the Hispanic icon of anti-Communism is Franco (plus José Antonio Primo de Rivera) (although of course I don't agree with Catholicism..... it has good aspects but I believe in Tawheed and I think it makes more sense theologically... another thing is that the post-Vatican II Popes have taught doctrines which contradict the previous Popes, which clearly refutes the doctrine of papal infallibility.... but I do admire the Spanish victory over Communism)

 

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I appreciate you trying to explain......

Just tried to give you a human angle to this, from the perspective of someone who lives in the region and knows irl a few people involved or caught up in this.

else we'd go on debating this endlessly for years

 

[Nein]

As you said, this kind of violence is fairly common in South America, the Mexican cartels love of decapitating their enemies is well documented. State violence and death flights in Chile and Argentina..

but it rarely makes much international news.. maybe because there are no nuclear threats involved ?

I studied the Cartels for my essay but My God they are one brutal and sadistic bunch!!!