Chabahar, Gwadar to be sister ports, says PM

[ni8mare]

India key saath LOL ho raha hai everywhere

Delusional boy.....

 

[Paksanity]

There is no such thing as sister port. Ports always compete even if they are located in same country. It's just business. Nothing personal.

 

[deckingraj]

We are not forcing you guys to join us on CPEC, infect if you guys do not join at all, that will be the probably most significant move from Pakistan. But as it is not our way to paralyze and block other Countries economically, socially and Politically, once we will see that you guys have given up with your idiotic future planing i-e Akhand Bharat than we might will be able to sit down for a talks. Apparently, our PM was way to in rush to straightened the relations with you guys, but since the Pathankot drama created by the the Super man Ajit Doval, we are back to same diplomacy where we were, and that was and is not to let India spoil this region's peace.

I was about to reply but then read the bold part....obviously you can help a blind but can't do jack about someone who is pretending to be one...so yeah why not!!

I won't ask you to join or do shiit. This CPEC situation will. Just because I wrote the post in a truthful context, doesn't mean I am now an Iranian, Pakistani or a Chinese. You should read carefully before putting the author in the mix.

one quick observation...when you wanna debate something try and maintain simple courtesy..

And your Indian businessmen want to connect through the CPEC. Who forced Modi to go to Pakistan

I guess the same businessmen that forced him to invite Nawaz on oath taking ceremony...right?? but thereafter probably the installment from those businessmen didn't reach Modi and he started all those anti-pakistan rhetorics and finally when the installment(read bribe) reached him he started engaging again...

Anyhow jokes apart...look the current move by Modi is very bold and adding this crony capitalist angle to it is unfortunate...at best these are just conspiracy theories with nothing to back them...right??

The same businessmen, will use their influence on the Indian government and will push hard to join the CPEC. Otherwise, Chinese products and services will be flowing through so many countries like flying Birds. And India wants to turn these Asian countries into African countries (from an Indian labor and trade's point of view). I think its a great development, the days of wars should be a history now. The days of economic competition and where more growth is for all countries, will be the main focus of the globe.

Tell me one thing...is this a new concept?? Just because there is going to be CPEC suddenly economic co-operation is being talked about....In my last post i told you that India is being denied any land access to AF....Pakistan is yet to provide India a MFN status something that we guys gave way back in late 90's...in fact the only reason Chabahar was coined is because of this....anyways India has invested way too much in Chabahar and in my mind we are not going to back off...b/w i am still wondering how and why CPEC gonna be this important for our businessmen...can u please explain that part a bit??

 

[Shotgunner51]

There is no such thing as sister port. Ports always compete even if they are located in same country. It's just business. Nothing personal.

Yes, it's just business. The world has a lot of ports, both Gwadar and Chabahar have roles to play in international trade. Being the largest trading nation, China has vested interests in whole value chain of port business from port tech, port building, port operation, port investment to shipping and other connected industries:

• On port design, tech & E&M equipment, Shanghai Zhenhua Port Machinery Corp (ZPMC) is the world's dominant port tech/machinery provider, supplying 78% of global demand on cranes/equipment. ZPMC is the leading supplier in port tech by far, has signed contract to build the 1st Fully Automated Port in Qingdao (青岛). Other than Chinese ports, prospects for this Sustainable Integrated Next Generation Advanced (SINGA) Port concept include Busan (South Korea), Dubai, Singapore and hopefully Colombo.

• Many mega-sized civil engineering companies can offer service, say China Harbour Engineering Corp (CHEC), China Communications Construction Company Limited (CCCC; Ranked 187th in 2014 Fortune 500), which have credentials in building the world's best, largest mega-infrastructures.

• China can offer experience in port operations. In 2013, just Chinese ports alone handled close to 200,000,000 TEU of container traffic, almost doubles that of US-Korea-Japan-Germany-combined. Shanghai is the world #1 port, and 7 out of world's top 10 are also in China.

• There are numerous mega logistics operators are from China Mainland (China Merchants, COSCO, CHEC, etc.). Other global powerhouses include China Hong Kong SAR (Hutchison Whampoa, HPH), Taiwan (Evergreen Group), Singapore (PSA Int'l), Netherlands (APM), UAE (DP World), South Korea (Hanjin Group) or Japan (JICA).

Top 100 port players ranked by container throughput - Lloyd's List

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• For value-adding investment & ecosystem (industries, energy plants, infrastructure along the port value chain) building, Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) and many Sovereign Welfare Funds (SWF; e.g. CIC) are among some from China that are excellent co-investors.

Both Gwadar and Chabahar have potential be major ports in the international trade web, maybe within top 50 in a decade or so. Good luck to both Pakistan and Iran!


Source:
PressTV: Iran wants China in Chabahar development
Port of Darwin: This is about more than China's economic interest

 

[Brahmaputra Mail]

Well as far as I know Pakistan could be dragged into the turmoil that exists between Iran and KSA. Remember the military alliance and commitments by Pakistani COAS to the House of Saud ? Things are getting dirty. And let me tell you China doesn't hold influence greater than India over Iran. It doesn't even serve purpose of the Chinese. If China has access to Gwadar, then Chahbahar is just waste of resources (unless China is willing to waste its money like Mao's golden statue). Meanwhile bonhomie between India and Iran is increasing. India-Iran business conglomerate is just waiting for the lifting of US sanctions.

 

[Atlanticore]

I won't ask you to join or do shiit. This CPEC situation will. Just because I wrote the post in a truthful context, doesn't mean I am now an Iranian, Pakistani or a Chinese. You should read carefully before putting the author in the mix.

And your Indian businessmen want to connect through the CPEC. Who forced Modi to go to Pakistan? The same businessmen, will use their influence on the Indian government and will push hard to join the CPEC. Otherwise, Chinese products and services will be flowing through so many countries like flying Birds. And India wants to turn these Asian countries into African countries (from an Indian labor and trade's point of view). I think its a great development, the days of wars should be a history now. The days of economic competition and where more growth is for all countries, will be the main focus of the globe.

Sir You might be aware of Obsessive disorders, Same is the condition of every Indian. When any body will say something related to Pakistan, they would just oppose it without knowing it can benefit much more to India.

 

[MastanKhan]

There is no such thing as sister port. Ports always compete even if they are located in same country. It's just business. Nothing personal.

Hi,

That statement of Nawaz shows you how STUPID he is---. These ports are tactical enemies of each other---how can they be sisters---.

One will prosper at the expense of the other.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Yeah whatever.

 

[Syed_Adeel]

Simply Chabahar is an India's strategic port and Gwadar is a China's strategic port. Don't make it complicated. Pakistan is just a face , not the game. You just can take some trade profit through this, that's it.

go get some geo strategic study dude then your all arrogance will vanish.
Chabahar is only India way to Afghanistan and dont forget the Pakistan is sitting in middle.

Cpec is joining massive Chinese and central asian trade to whole world including Iran. Iran will be stupid to go for your pennies against Chinese Billions of dollars. so just stop crying and act logically. this will benifit you and hopefully your all wet dreams against China and Pak will go with time.

 

[Super Falcon]

Nawaz se jaan chudao bhai yeh bika hua ha

 

[Tiger Genie]

Yes, it's just business. The world has a lot of ports, both Gwadar and Chabahar have roles to play in international trade. Being the largest trading nation, China has vested interests in whole value chain of port business from port tech, port building, port operation, port investment to shipping and other connected industries:

• On port design, tech & E&M equipment, Shanghai Zhenhua Port Machinery Corp (ZPMC) is the world's dominant port tech/machinery provider, supplying 78% of global demand on cranes/equipment. ZPMC is the leading supplier in port tech by far, has signed contract to build the 1st Fully Automated Port in Qingdao (青岛). Other than Chinese ports, prospects for this Sustainable Integrated Next Generation Advanced (SINGA) Port concept include Busan (South Korea), Dubai, Singapore and hopefully Colombo.

• Many mega-sized civil engineering companies can offer service, say China Harbour Engineering Corp (CHEC), China Communications Construction Company Limited (CCCC; Ranked 187th in 2014 Fortune 500), which have credentials in building the world's best, largest mega-infrastructures.

• China can offer experience in port operations. In 2013, just Chinese ports alone handled close to 200,000,000 TEU of container traffic, almost doubles that of US-Korea-Japan-Germany-combined. Shanghai is the world #1 port, and 7 out of world's top 10 are also in China.

• There are numerous mega logistics operators are from China Mainland (China Merchants, COSCO, CHEC, etc.). Other global powerhouses include China Hong Kong SAR (Hutchison Whampoa, HPH), Taiwan (Evergreen Group), Singapore (PSA Int'l), Netherlands (APM), UAE (DP World), South Korea (Hanjin Group) or Japan (JICA).

Top 100 port players ranked by container throughput - Lloyd's List

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• For value-adding investment & ecosystem (industries, energy plants, infrastructure along the port value chain) building, Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) and many Sovereign Welfare Funds (SWF; e.g. CIC) are among some from China that are excellent co-investors.

Both Gwadar and Chabahar have potential be major ports in the international trade web, maybe within top 50 in a decade or so. Good luck to both Pakistan and Iran!


Source:
PressTV: Iran wants China in Chabahar development
Port of Darwin: This is about more than China's economic interest

why does it surprise you or anyone that China handles the most tonnage? For decades China has developed its economy by being the factory to the rest of the world - so materials and sub-assemblies are shipped into China and finished goods are shipped out of China. BTW the Shanghai port is quite outstanding but the planned expansion of the Europort (Rotterdam) is quite amazing in how they plan to innovate flow.

On a different note, if China's interest in gawaddar is to acquire an western option if their eastern sea ports become mired in a trouble of any kind, then it becomes necessary that they ensure Chabahar is in friendly terms and does not provide a base for the other side. In other words if gawadar is consider strategic, it becomes useless and neutralized by chahabar.

Finally, it is quite smart of Chinese to therefore make this approach to Iran via Pakistan. Collateral damage is Pakistan in that it burns itself viz a viz its traditional savior Saudi Arabia and pushes them completely into China's grasp as the lender of last resort. But then that is the fate of the little guy that happens to be between two bigger players - for a while it feels like the bridge but many a times gets crushed

 

[tarrar]

This is nonsense from PM, this shows ganja does not discuss anything with the Intel Agencies before making a statement like this. Pakistan should stay away from Iran as they are a threat & will start supporting rented terrorists (BLA, BRA & etc.) in the province. Pakistan should concentrate on completing CPEC & make Gawadr port functional ASAP.

 

[somebozo]

By connecting Iran to CPEC - Chahbar and Gawader will reach its historic importance of being a major ports enterprise..before the Portuguese attacked it and ruined it...