CATL unveils sodium-ion batteries, plans to establish industry chain by 2023

[serenity]

Sodium based battery technology is not replacement for Lithium types just now but will be used together with. It will take some years to set up production and become applied onto vehicles as new vehicles being engineered have some options for their power source. It should make it cheaper and faster charging when combined with lithium.

 

[Paul2]

More promising is NDB ( website ), standing for Nano Diamond Battery, which uses radioactive waste material enclosed within synthetic diamond to create portable, scalable, application-agnostic power sources. The company says that based on the application, from heart pacemaker to cell phone, the battery life can last from thousands of years to nine years. The applications, the company says, can be anything - from light bulb to spacecraft.

The company is supposed to be waiting for COVID restrictions to end to set about creating a prototype.

Company motto : "To reinvent electricity & create a planet without fossil fuels by 2040".



SpaceX and QNX were also small "flies" in their respective domains once.

That "nanadiamond" is a fraud. No way to power anything big like a smartphone with Beta radiation without frying everything around with radiation in the process.

Try to look up how much Becquerels you need to provide 2 watts of energy, the typical smartphone power consumption.

 

[jamahir]

That "nanadiamond" is a fraud. No way to power anything big like a smartphone with Beta radiation without frying everything around with radiation in the process.

Try to look up how much Becquerels you need to provide 2 watts of energy, the typical smartphone power consumption.

1. Well, just like you there is an interview of a British university research team who have doubted the legitimacy of NDB.

2. There was an interview by the New Atlas website of the three leaders of NDB company. The interview page ( https://newatlas.com/energy/nano-diamond-battery-interview-ndb/ ) is now not available. The talk, from some months ago, was about first prototypes, pricing, battery life and other things.

But I think we should wait for more news of NDB.

 

[Paul2]

1. Well, just like you there is an interview of a British university research team who have doubted the legitimacy of NDB.

I tell you, this is a 100% spoof. British, or not British, they are frauds. Most British can't tell where their country is on a map today, and they will soon have their first Indian PM, so far they fell.

No wonder some nincompoops managed to swindle some cheap publicity, and money from these witless people who can't recall secondary school level physics.

 

[aziqbal]

WTF... You compare a tiny shit fly no one even heard of with the world's largest lithium ion battery company CATL which has a 200 billion USD market value? Call you a moron is an insult to morons...

Personal attack reported

 

[Paul2]

CATL is the TSMC or Boeing of batteries.

More like Foxconn (be it accursed.) In fact, it was founded with Foxconn as a main founding partner.

 

[Paul2]

I have an EV car. Winter is a nightmare because it loses power very soon. I have to recharge it again and again. Glad to know low temperature battery has been developed. And since Na is much cheaper than Li, I guess EV cars will be more affordable.

Edit: Most world population are living in seasonally low temperature regions. So this battery will be a game changer.

No, not even seasonally. Half of world's population lives in tropics, with 20% more in subtropics. You never have <0C° there.

 

[jamahir]

I tell you, this is a 100% spoof. British, or not British, they are frauds. Most British can't tell where their country is on a map today, and they will soon have their first Indian PM, so far they fell.

No wonder some nincompoops managed to swindle some cheap publicity, and money from these witless people who can't recall secondary school level physics.

NDB is an American company with a team from all over the world.

As for them being frauds, let's see what they come out within a year from now.

 

[TNT]

Sodium ion have advantages but its high temperature performance is low and also have low life in charge cycles.
NDB is currently at infancy but mainly it cant provide enough wattage.

 

[jamahir]

NDB is currently at infancy but mainly it cant provide enough wattage.

According to the website :

Diamond Nuclear Voltaic (DNV): NDB is one of the earliest adopters and developers of this technology backed up by recent publications. Typically, DNV as a device is a combination of a semiconductor, metal and ceramic which has two contact surfaces to facilitate charge collection. Several single units are attached together to create a stack arrangement, which is fabricated to create a positive and negative contact surface similar to a common battery system. Every layer of the DNV stack consists of a high energy output source. This kind of arrangement improves the overall efficiency of the system and provides a multi layer safety shield for the product.

 

[casual]

This technology will make EV as cheap as cabbage ...

no it won't. it's like saying silicon is cheap so semiconductor chips are cheap too.

even if the materials are cheap, the manufacturing process isn't. However this does solve the Lithium/Nickel bottleneck.