Cancer patient commits suicide live on Facebook in India

[war&peace]

No man.. I have heard that India has good cancer hospitals. What's your information?

Mate, Pakistan has better cancer treatment hospitals but it is the lack of seriousness of the patients and basic Dr that normally fail to detect the disease on time. Most of the cancers are detected later stages i.e. 3rd or 4th and that's where Drs cannot do much..and many hospitals do not even admit at this stage. People have to be more open minded and get themselves checked up regularly and if there is something wrong, they must investigate it seriously...any cancer at its early stage is very much curable.

 

[BHarwana]

I was talking about cancer treatment being cheap and Govt funding the treatment and shaukat khanum hospital.

 

[Chuuma]

Cancer patients in Pakistan are very lucky even luckier that Europe and North America. Thanks to Pakistan Govt and Imran khan. but situation in India is very bad for cancer patients. If you get cancer you will find out how lucky you are to be in Pakistan and get treated.

Can you please count numbers of technical research papers presented by pakistan based oncologists.
Then we can talk about rest of services.

 

[war&peace]

Don't quote me you false flag hateful bigot.

Naah mate, he is not bigoted, he is just emotional.. and let be honest the situation is not good on the ground..there are not enough healthcare facilities in the country and quality is low but what his kind of people wrong is where to attribute the blame...He is barking on the wrong tree. It is not the military but rather civilian governments and they have to share the blame squarely and people who vote for them ...(though it is debate-able that whether the vote actually decides the outcome of the elections or not, I believe it does despite rigging and manipulation). We should learn from the people of KPK, they voted for PTI and today they have much better health and education facilities offered by the government. Sehat Sahulat card gives free access to the best healthcare system in the country.

 

[BHarwana]

Can you please count numbers of technical research papers presented by pakistan based oncologists.
Then we can talk about rest of services.

India is The leader my friend in medicine, look I said what you wanted, Are you Happy now? But why is Indian Govt not spending on free treatment for poor and buying missiles? $6 billion will save more lives than those missile can take in war.

 

[war&peace]

Can you please count numbers of technical research papers presented by pakistan based oncologists.
Then we can talk about rest of services.

Your trillions of technical papers didn't save the life of the girl...so such roll those papers tight and shove them up your govt's ***.

 

[Trisonics]

This has to be the pits for BHarwana. Seriously! How can use a death of a cancer patient like this? Anyone with Blood Cancer can tell you the toll of chemo for almost 3 years with pretty bad prognosis for adults. Please be human.

As far as price for treatment is concerned. Pakistan lags behind India in multiple areas. Targeted Therapy, Immunotherapy have reached India many years ago. So a patient in India will receive the same treatment as a patient in the US minus any clinical trials.

Yes. There is also a huge disparity in treatment of people in rural and urban areas. India's approach has been very different. India for a long time now has started screening for cancer with mobile vans, camps and so on. I know so many people involved in this especially Karnataka and for Oral cancer.
http://www.indiancancersociety.org/activities-ics/mobile-dt-unit.aspx

Lastly, please do not use a sad case like this to have a debate. Reflects badly on your culture. Why not be a man and open a thread about India VS Pakistan's Medical treatment. I will contribute since this matters to me.

We can compare density of cancer hospitals, screening, latest protocol of drugs used, hospice facilities, free treatment centers, doctors involved in international research, drug companies involved in India, etc.

 

[BHarwana]

Naah mate, he is not bigoted, he is just emotional.. and let be honest the situation is not good on the ground..there are not enough healthcare facilities in the country and quality is low but what his kind of people wrong is where to attribute the blame...He is barking on the wrong tree. It is not the military but rather civilian governments and they have to share the blame squarely and people who vote for them ...(though it is debate-able that whether the vote actually decides the outcome of the elections or not, I believe it does despite rigging and manipulation). We should learn from the people of KPK, they voted for PTI and today they have much better health and education facilities offered by the government. Sehat Sahulat card gives free access to the best healthcare system in the country.

I totally agree but we cannot deny what Imran Khan has done in Punjab. Our head his high because of his effort to make cancer treatment easy for the poor. At least poor have hope that if they get cancer they have a chance to fight it. The Nawaz family sucks at work.

This has to be the pits for BHarwana. Seriously! How can use a death of a cancer patient like this? Anyone with Blood Cancer can tell you the toll of chemo for almost 3 years with pretty bad prognosis for adults. Please be human.

As far as price for treatment is concerned. Pakistan lags behind India in multiple areas. Targeted Therapy, Immunotherapy have reached India many years ago. So a patient in India will receive the same treatment as a patient in the US minus any clinical trials.

Yes. There is also a huge disparity in treatment of people in rural and urban areas. India's approach has been very different. India for a long time now has started screening for cancer with mobile vans, camps and so on. I know so many people involved in this especially Karnataka and for Oral cancer.
http://www.indiancancersociety.org/activities-ics/mobile-dt-unit.aspx

Lastly, please do not use a sad case like this to have a debate. Reflects badly on your culture. Why not be a man and open a thread about India VS Pakistan's Medical treatment. I will contribute since this matters to me.

We can compare density of cancer hospitals, screening, latest protocol of drugs used, hospice facilities, free treatment centers, doctors involved in international research, drug companies involved in India, etc.

I am using this death to save million other who will die if India keeps on spending corrupt foreign weapons deals rather than health care. Modi will earn millions from this deal in cut back and those free treatment will not fill his pockets but help the poor.

 

[war&peace]

I totally agree but we cannot deny what Imran Khan has done in Punjab. Our head his high because of his effort to make cancer treatment easy for the poor. At least poor have hope that if they get cancer they have a chance to fight it. The Nawaz family sucks at work.

SO what's the point? who is denying IK's contribution...mate where did you pull it from..I'm talking about his (U571) wrong complaints/allegations against the military and defence of the country. I have followed him and I have found to be overly negative...I think he deserves a leave from the forum...may be shorter one.... but he needs to go out and breathe some fresh air. @HRK sir you may recommend something...

 

[Trisonics]

I am using this death to save million other who will die if India keeps on spending corrupt foreign weapons deals rather than health care. Modi will earn millions from this deal in cut back and those free treatment will not fill his pockets but help the poor.

You are nobody to use somebody else's death and give an utterly stupid reason to justify it. I hope and pray that nobody you know gets cancer. If they really matter to you and you see what they go through, you will never again use a cancer death to prove a point or talk about it as causally like you are doing.

If you really want to learn about Cancer treatment in India, Including free treatment available through cancer centeres in almost all states of India, I will still indulge with this useful information.

Don't be such a low life. A cancer patient's death and dignity should never be spoken about like this. Please reopen a new thread on medical treatment minus any stories of personal stories. I have just reported this thread. I report many threads but find no action. Hope mods agree with me on this.

 

[BHarwana]

SO what's the point? who is denying IK's contribution...mate where did you pull it from..I'm talking about his (U571) wrong complaints/allegations against the military and defence of the country. I have followed him and I have found to be overly negative...I think he deserves a leave from the forum...may be shorter one.... but he needs to go out and breathe some fresh air. @HRK sir you may recommend something...

I know bro you are talking about him but I mentioned IK because of U571.

You are nobody to use somebody else's death and give an utterly stupid reason to justify it. I hope and pray that nobody you know gets cancer. If they really matter to you and you see what they go through, you will never again use a cancer death to prove a point or talk about it as causally like you are doing.

If you really want to learn about Cancer treatment in India, Including free treatment available through cancer centeres in almost all states of India, I will still indulge with this useful information.

Don't be such a low life. A cancer patient's death and dignity should never be spoken about like this. Please reopen a new thread on medical treatment minus any stories of personal stories. I have just reported this thread. I report many threads but find no action. Hope mods agree with me on this.

It is a shame that I had to mentions this instead you doing this favor to your country. I had 2 cancer patients very close to me. I lost one of my Aunt to this disease and one of my aunts was saved because there was treatment for her in Pakistan due to Govt spending on cancer hospitals.

Don't be such a low life. A cancer patient's death and dignity should never be spoken about like this. Please reopen a new thread on medical treatment minus any stories of personal stories. I have just reported this thread. I report many threads but find no action. Hope mods agree with me on this.

Agreed I should not be a low life and let India spend on weapons than cancer. I am a pathetic person who is demanding more spending on health than weapons. I have a question How many people a single missile can kill and how many lives can be save with money if it is spent on free treatment?

 

[Chuuma]

India is The leader my friend in medicine, look I said what you wanted, Are you Happy now? But why is Indian Govt not spending on free treatment for poor and buying missiles? $6 billion will save more lives than those missile can take in war.

Did you ever checked how much indian government is spending as part of GDP on health vs Pakistan.

Did you ever happen to check what kind of private medical establishment India has.

And if you get time, do checkout per capita medical expenditure too.

Your trillions of technical papers didn't save the life of the girl...so such roll those papers tight and shove them up your govt's ***.

Lolz, in absence of papers you probably will need poles to do same with pakistani govt ..

 

[Trisonics]

Sorry that you lost an aunt to cancer. There is no need to attach a tragic death to prove a point. Open a new thread and we can discuss.

Just FYI:
With cancer cases rocketing in India, the Union health ministry has prepared a Rs 15,855-crore plan for its early diagnosis and treatment over the next five years. This is the largest chunk of India's overall budget for non-communicable diseases (Rs 58,000 crore — a 500% increase from the 11th Plan).

By 2017, India plans to open two national cancer institutes, 20 state cancer institutes along with supporting 100 tertiary cancer centres.

The plan is also to increase district cancer centres from 100 to 640 by end-2017, add 500 additional cancer specialists trained in its management besides training 640 district cancer teams.

Over the next five years, the number of institutes working on India's cancer registry — that records cancer cases in India — from 27 to 122.

District hospitals are also being strengthened to diagnose and treat patients with chemotherapy. Radiotherapy, however, will be available in 27 existing regional cancer centres, all of which are being upgraded.

The ministry is also giving Rs 1 crore to each district hospital just to provide free chemotherapy to 100 patients per district. The ministry will give Rs 100 crore (estimated cost of chemotherapy per patient per year being Rs 1 lakh) to the 100 shortlisted district hospitals only to provide free chemotherapy.

 

[BHarwana]

Did you ever checked how much indian government is spending as part of GDP on health vs Pakistan.

Did you ever happen to check what kind of private medical establishment India has.

And if you get time, do checkout per capita medical expenditure too.

My friend 106 people are raped in India every day Why? Because Indian security forces are busy killing Kashmiris rather than making Indian streets safe. If 700,000 security forces are deployed to make Indian streets safe for women at least half of those women will not suffer.

454 million people live under poverty in India and $6 billion can raise 10% of this number out of poverty.

A single missile can kill max 100 people but that money can save 5000 lives from cancer.

 

[MultaniGuy]

pakistanis are very lucky i agree, health care in pakistan is better than europe

im surly living in one delusional country man.

Listen you false flagger. you have been reported.

@waz, @The Eagle, @Horus, A False Flagger has been detected.

This has to be the pits for BHarwana. Seriously! How can use a death of a cancer patient like this? Anyone with Blood Cancer can tell you the toll of chemo for almost 3 years with pretty bad prognosis for adults. Please be human.

As far as price for treatment is concerned. Pakistan lags behind India in multiple areas. Targeted Therapy, Immunotherapy have reached India many years ago. So a patient in India will receive the same treatment as a patient in the US minus any clinical trials.

Yes. There is also a huge disparity in treatment of people in rural and urban areas. India's approach has been very different. India for a long time now has started screening for cancer with mobile vans, camps and so on. I know so many people involved in this especially Karnataka and for Oral cancer.
http://www.indiancancersociety.org/activities-ics/mobile-dt-unit.aspx

Lastly, please do not use a sad case like this to have a debate. Reflects badly on your culture. Why not be a man and open a thread about India VS Pakistan's Medical treatment. I will contribute since this matters to me.

We can compare density of cancer hospitals, screening, latest protocol of drugs used, hospice facilities, free treatment centers, doctors involved in international research, drug companies involved in India, etc.

India lags behind Pakistan in many areas such as poverty eradication and income equality.

At least we do not have threads dedicated to the destruction of India, like Indian forums have threads dedicated to the destruction of Pakistan like on Bharat Rakshak.