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Can’t Win in Afghanistan? Blame Pakistan

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Soon after the US invaded Afghanistan and overthrew the Taliban government in 2001, I predicted that Taliban resistance would resume in four years.

My fellow pundits, who were c O c K-a-hoop over the US military victory over a bunch of lightly-armed medieval tribesmen, became drunk on old-fashioned imperial triumphalism, and denounced me as "crazy," or worse. But most of them had never been to Afghanistan and knew nothing about the Pashtun tribal people. I had covered the struggle against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan during the 1980’s and was well aware of the leisurely pace of warfare favored by Pashtun warriors.

"Do not stay in Afghanistan," I warned in a 2001 article in the Los Angeles Times. The longer foreign forces remained in Afghanistan, the more the tribes would fight against their continued presence. Taliban resumed fighting in 2005.

Now, as resistance to the US-led occupation of Afghanistan intensifies, the increasingly frustrated Bush administration is venting its anger against Pakistan and its military intelligence agency, Inter-Service Intelligence, better known as ISI.

The White House just leaked claims ISI is in cahoots with pro-Taliban groups in Pakistan’s tribal agency along the Afghan border and warns them of impending US attacks. The New York Times, which allowed the Bush administration to use it as a mouthpiece for Iraq War propaganda, dutifully featured the leaks about ISI on front page. Other administration officials have been claiming that ISI may even be hiding Osama bin Laden and other senior al-Qaida leaders.

The Bush administration claims that CIA had electronic intercepts proving ISI was behind the recent bombing of India’s embassy in Kabul. India and Afghanistan echo this charge. No hard evidence has yet been produced, but the US media has been lustily condemning Pakistan for pretending to be an ally of the US while acting like an enemy.

President George Bush angrily asked Pakistan’s visiting prime minister, Yousuf Gilani, "who’s in charge of ISI?" An interesting question, since all recent ISI director generals have been vetted and pre-approved by Washington.

I was one of the first western journalists invited into ISI HQ in 1986. ISI’s then director, the fierce Lt. General Akhtar Rahman, personally briefed me on Pakistan’s secret role in fighting Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. ISI’s "boys" provided communications, logistics, training, heavy weapons, and direction in the Afghan War. I kept ISI’s role in Afghanistan a secret until the war ended in 1989.

ISI was primarily responsible for the victory over the Soviets, which hastened the collapse of the USSR. At war’s end, Gen. Akhtar and Pakistan’s leader, Zia ul Haq, both died in a sabotaged C-130 transport aircraft. Unfortunately, most Pakistanis blame the United States for this assassination, though the real malefactors have never been identified and the investigation long ago shelved.

On my subsequent trips to Pakistan I was routinely briefed by succeeding ISI chiefs, and joined ISI officers in the field, sometimes under fire.

ISI, which reports to Pakistan’s military and the prime minister, is accused of meddling in Pakistani politics. The late Benazir Bhutto, who often was thwarted and vexed by Pakistan’s spooks, always playfully scolded me, "you and your beloved generals at ISI."

But before Gen. Pervez Musharraf took over as military dictator, ISI was the third world’s most efficient, professional intelligence agency. It still defends Pakistan against internal and external subversion by India’s powerful spy agency, RAW, and by Iran. ISI works closely with CIA and the Pentagon and was primarily responsible for the rapid ouster of Taliban from power in 2001. But ISI also must serve Pakistan’s interests which are often not identical to Washington’s, and sometimes in conflict.

ISI was long and deeply involved in supporting the uprising by Kashmiri Muslims against Indian rule, and has been accused by India of abetting groups that have committed bombings and aircraft hijackings inside India, including a wave of terrorist bombings against civilians in Bangalore and Gujarat over recently weeks. For its part, India’s powerful intelligence service, RAW, has mounted bombing and shooting attacks inside Pakistan.

The reason it is often difficult to tell whether Pakistan is friend or foe is because Washington has been forcing Pakistan’s government, military and intelligence services into supporting the US-led war in Afghanistan and rounding up and torturing opponents of Pakistan’s military dictatorship. Pakistan was forced to bend to Washington’s will through a combination of over $11 billion in payments and threats of war if Pakistan did not comply. The ongoing prosecution of the US-led war in Afghanistan depends entirely on Pakistan’s provision of bases and troops.

While Pakistan’s government, military and intelligence services were forced to follow Washington’s strategic plans, 90% of Pakistan’s people bitterly opposed these policies. President-dictator Musharraf was caught between the anger of Washington and his own angry people who branded him an American stooge.

Small wonder Pakistan’s leadership is so often accused of playing a double game.

The last ISI Director General I knew was the tough, highly capable Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmad. He was purged by Musharraf because Washington felt Mahmood was insufficiently responsive to US interests. Ever since 2001, ensuing ISI directors were all pre-approved by Washington. All senior ISI veterans deemed "Islamist" or too nationalistic by Washington were purged at Washington’s demand, leaving ISI’s upper ranks top-heavy with too many yes-men and paper-passers.

Even so, there is strong opposition inside ISI and the military to Washington’s bribing and arm-twisting the subservient Musharraf dictatorship into waging war against fellow Pakistanis and gravely damaging Pakistan’s national interests.

ISI’s primary duty is defending Pakistan, not promote US interests. Pashtun tribesmen on the border sympathizing with their fellow Taliban Pashtun in Afghanistan are Pakistanis. Many, like the legendary Jalaluddin Haqqani, are old US allies and "freedom fighters" from the 1980’s. When the US and its western allies finally abandon Afghanistan, as they will inevitably do one day, Pakistan must go on living with its rambunctious tribals.

Violence and uprisings in these tribal areas are not caused by "terrorism," as Washington and Musharraf falsely claimed. They directly result from the US-led occupation of Afghanistan and Washington’s forcing the hated Musharraf regime to attack its own people.

ISI is trying to restrain pro-Taliban Pashtun tribesmen while dealing with growing US attacks into Pakistan that threaten a wider war. India, Pakistan’s bitter foe, has an army of agents in Afghanistan and is arming, backing and financing the Karzai puppet regime in Kabul in hopes of turning Afghanistan into a protectorate. Pakistan’s historic strategic interests in Afghanistan have been undermined by the US occupation. Now, the US and India are trying to eliminate Pakistani influence in Afghanistan.

ISI, many of whose officers are Pashtun, has every right to warn Pakistani citizens of impending US air attacks that kill large numbers of civilians. But ISI also has another vital mission. Preventing Pakistan’s Pashtun, 15–20% of the population of 165 million, from rekindling the old "Greater Pashtunistan" movement calling for union of the Pashtun tribes of Pakistan and Afghanistan into a new Pashtun nation. The Pashtun have never recognized the Durand Line (today’s Pakistan-Afghan border) drawn by British imperialists to sunder the world’s largest tribal people. Greater Pashtunistan would tear apart Pakistan and invite Indian military intervention.

Washington’s bull-in-a-china shop behavior pays no heeds to these realities. Instead, Washington demonizes faithful old allies ISI and Pakistan while supporting Afghanistan’s Communists and drug dealers, and allowing India to stir the Afghan pot – all for the sake of new energy pipelines.

As Henry Kissinger cynically noted, being America’s ally is more dangerous than being its enemy.


The article is written by: Eric Margolis

Found this article while searching for something else. But if posted before please delte.
 
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The US needs to realizes Pashtuns are not usually unified but when someone tries to invade one tribes, they all unify and MUST kick out the invader. Its part of our culture and Pashtunwali.
 
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Attacking Americans for no reason. The article has little substance in it worth arguing about. Otherwise it is pure propaganda as it serves only to demonize American forces "occupying" Afghanistan.

The author needs to understand the entire point of United States and ISAF invading that country was due to it becoming a safe haven for terrorists from world around. A rather flimsy excuse of "foreign invasion" to justify the level of violence taking place all around South Asia.

Taliban have been a menace and United States is partly responsible for it since the 80s. But the recent violence since last 8 years is totally uncalled for and for that, ISAF needs to ensure that there is peace and prosperity in the region.
 
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My apologies to all as I clearly though that I had linked the article. Any ways apologies again and below is the link for every ones reference.
Can’t Win in Afghanistan? Blame Pakistan by Eric Margolis
The source is not an issue here. It is more to do with stereotyping an entire country's military for the wrongs of a few; very same as what many members here repeatedly warn not to stereotype them as.

Opinions flow all over the world and so has this person expressed his. But it is very biased is what I want to argue.
 
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The source is not an issue here. It is more to do with stereotyping an entire country's military for the wrongs of a few; very same as what many members here repeatedly warn not to stereotype them as.

Opinions flow all over the world and so has this person expressed his. But it is very biased is what I want to argue.

Babu I have no issues with what you believe in and what not! It is a public forum that revolves around issues that are connected to Pakistan. What the article says for me it makes sense, to you it don't. We both have different ways of looking at things. The guy who wrote it is not a Pakistani but an American, if I am not wrong. I saw the article somewhere though about posting it here for all to read. You have a problem with what he wrote, go to the link and send him an email. The reason I had to come back and post a link was because another member was kind enough to send me an email and point to my mistake which I have already mentioned that was a mistake. The rest I don't see u jumping up and down to every anti Pakistani article that is posted on this forum. Criticism is not a one way street learn to live with it. Where there is fire there will be smoke, I would suggest you to search for all the Shah's men a nice book to read. May be a little insight in history will change your mind a little on how the US and Britain had been involved in some shady business of their own.
 
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Parashuram1...did americans win?
I am not interested to write a detailed post on "for the wrongs of a few"
 
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Parashuram1...did americans win?
I am not interested to write a detailed post on "for the wrongs of a few"
The war is ongoing, dear luftwaffe. Unless and until the ISAF operations officially cease, nothing can be predicted by a few statements that are merely used as methods of milking the NATO governments to pump out more money on weapons. It should be of common knowledge to a defense enthusiast like you that this is an old tactic.

While ISAF has its share of troubles with Taliban using people as human shields, it is concerned which is why it is so slow in its war unlike Taliban who don't mind the deaths of non-combatant civilians whom they use as human shield.

If this was a blanket-bomb-and-run case, ISAF would have won this war 7 years ago.
 
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American know the Afghanistan war is endless.

USA / NATO cannot completely defeat Taliban / Al-Qaeda.

Taliban / Al-Qaeda cannot drive out USA / NATO.

China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan don't want any one side win.

That's all
 
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American know the Afghanistan war is endless.

USA / NATO cannot completely defeat Taliban / Al-Qaeda.

Taliban / Al-Qaeda cannot drive out USA / NATO.

China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan don't want any one side win.

That's all
I would like to differ from you, friend. Russia and Iran actually don't want the Taliban to win in any case. While Iranians might not like an American presence in their neighbourhood, Russians did allow NATO to use ex-Soviet states as a transit for their supplies. This has enabled Moscow to gain a sold foot in the Afghanistan war.

You see, Russians might consider this as an entirely different ballgame than what Iranians think. To Kremlin and even perhaps to Chinese, dealing with United States and entangling them into political clauses and agreements is easier than engaging with Taliban that don't recognize any civilized national or international law. Engaging United States any day would be easier than dealing with Talibans for either Beijing or Moscow.

Now with an established Taliban rule, there might be an increase of terrorist activities even in SCO states that includes your country as well, other than South Asia as a whole. Now while US presence won't be tolerated for non-conflict reasons by the world, it would be any day preferred over the rule of an uncivilized, primitive and barbaric terrorist organization.

Don't you agree with me that they can be a potential threat to Chinese government as well?
 
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I would like to differ from you, friend. Russia and Iran actually don't want the Taliban to win in any case. While Iranians might not like an American presence in their neighbourhood, Russians did allow NATO to use ex-Soviet states as a transit for their supplies. This has enabled Moscow to gain a sold foot in the Afghanistan war.

You see, Russians might consider this as an entirely different ballgame than what Iranians think. To Kremlin and even perhaps to Chinese, dealing with United States and entangling them into political clauses and agreements is easier than engaging with Taliban that don't recognize any civilized national or international law. Engaging United States any day would be easier than dealing with Talibans for either Beijing or Moscow.

Now with an established Taliban rule, there might be an increase of terrorist activities even in SCO states that includes your country as well, other than South Asia as a whole. Now while US presence won't be tolerated for non-conflict reasons by the world, it would be any day preferred over the rule of an uncivilized, primitive and barbaric terrorist organization.

Don't you agree with me that they can be a potential threat to Chinese government as well?

As a viewpoint of Iran or Russia,

Taliban or Al Qaeda are controllable,

you see China, NO Al Qaeda dare to fight with us.

But USA is a overwhelmingly powerful imperialist.

Invasion of Iraq / Yugoslavia, Kosovo independence, Eastern Expansion of NATO and Colour Revolution show the ambition of Imperial USA.
 
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This Eric guy is a very reputable journalist who is a canadian jewish. But I think he is sort of pro ISI as he was the first journalist to be allowed in to their offices and speak to them.

I like him and his views very much, lol.
 
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I would like to differ from you, friend. Russia and Iran actually don't want the Taliban to win in any case. While Iranians might not like an American presence in their neighbourhood, Russians did allow NATO to use ex-Soviet states as a transit for their supplies. This has enabled Moscow to gain a sold foot in the Afghanistan war.

You see, Russians might consider this as an entirely different ballgame than what Iranians think. To Kremlin and even perhaps to Chinese, dealing with United States and entangling them into political clauses and agreements is easier than engaging with Taliban that don't recognize any civilized national or international law. Engaging United States any day would be easier than dealing with Talibans for either Beijing or Moscow.

Now with an established Taliban rule, there might be an increase of terrorist activities even in SCO states that includes your country as well, other than South Asia as a whole. Now while US presence won't be tolerated for non-conflict reasons by the world, it would be any day preferred over the rule of an uncivilized, primitive and barbaric terrorist organization.

Don't you agree with me that they can be a potential threat to Chinese government as well?

Did talaban attacked or involved in terrorist activities during their five years rule?

Little knowledge is always dangerous
 
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Can’t Win in Afghanistan? but with the help of Pakistan they can, US have to balance between Pakistani and Indian interest in the region.

:usflag: plus :pakistan: = Win Win but Indian lobby not happy
:usflag: plus Indian = lose lose

:usflag: plus :pakistan: plus Indian = give and take for peace and oil.
 
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