Can Saudi Arabia Execute a 13-Year-Old Boy for Protesting?

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Pakistan should learn from Saudi Arabia how to deal with traitors

And kids on bikes?

 

[Microsoft]

man are all arabs the same? he is acting as if executing and imprisioning is the same.. as if shooting and talking is the same.. you guys cannot be helped..

He (@Philip the Arab ) is also comparing a terrorism charge with protesting and also that's likely fake news can only find Indian sources.

 

[B.K.N]

And kids on bikes?

A Saudi teenager who has been detained in 2014 could face the death penalty after being accused of attending a demonstration when he was just ten-years-old, Amnesty International said on Friday.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

we would not do the same!

humbleness is the keyword! we didnt survive 1000 years in the region to kill 14 year old children



man are all arabs the same? he is acting as if executing and imprisioning is the same.. as if shooting and talking is the same.. you guys cannot be helped..

Kurds in Eastern Turkey (using the same sources you used about KSA yesterday) tell a different story. In any case not everything that is written in the media is true. Most of it is propaganda. I posted official statistics in this thread. Never has a 13 year even been executed in KSA. It is utter nonsense.

Posting my earlier post since some people have difficulties reading simple English.

There is zero proof of that individual even being arrested in the first place let alone being sentenced to death. Executions of minors barely occur in KSA unless in special circumstances where the condemned has committed a murder or another serious crime. If you are old enough to commit the crime while knowing the consequences of your crime age cannot be an excuse. So if you are 17 years and 360 days old you escape scotch free while if you are precisely 18 years old it is all fine.

It is Amnesty International as usual writing nonsense. According to them 100.000's of people have been executed for "protesting" already. In reality the execution rate in KSA is very limited and much smaller than that of Iran next door for instance.




What is 150 executions in a country of 35 million each year? That is nothing. Especially given the harsh laws and penalties in KSA. Thank God for that because that is one of the reasons why we have one of the safest countries in the world with one of the lowest crime rates despite hosting millions of people from various countries, most of them underdeveloped compared to our country.

Obviously if that individual has indeed been captured and sentenced to death (no proof) while innocent the people responsible for that verdict should themselves be punished harshly. However I have never heard of the country executing 13 year olds. Just nonsense. 16-18 year old murderers, rapists, drug smugglers etc. yes.​

Anyway I already told you earlier today that you should get help for your Arab-obsession. It has reached unlimited heights. For your own mental well-being.

He (@Philip the Arab ) is also comparing a terrorism charge with protesting and also that's likely fake news can only find Indian sources.

As if this news about that teenager getting executed as the first 13 year old in KSA history is believable. For protesting on a bike. Come on. You have to be a retard to believe it.

 

[Microsoft]

As if this news about that teenager getting executed as the first 13 year old in KSA history is believable. For protesting on a bike. Come on. You have to be a retard to believe it.

Yep doesn't seem likely to me (@Philip the Arab seems to believe it) but you have to wonder even with all the money Arabs are dishing out to west why are they still giving so much bad press?

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Yep doesn't seem likely to me (@Philip the Arab seems to believe it) but you have to wonder even with all the money Arabs are dishing out to west why are they still giving so much bad press?

Because unlike almost all non-Arab Muslims with the exception of Ottomans who ruled for a much shorter period and less land, Arabs have ruled large parts of Europe for 800 years. All of Iberia (Spain, Portugal, Andorra, Gibraltar), parts of Southern France, Sicily, parts of Southern Italy, Crete (Greece), Cyprus, Malta etc. Arabs and Europeans (Westerners) have been competitors for power, when both had empires, for trade (Europeans began exploring the Western Hemisphere because they wanted to find a route to India and South East Asia, China etc. that did not go through Arab lands and the trade routes that we Arabs controlled), Arabs are the biggest immigrant group (Muslim and non-Muslim) in the West. There is a fear of Islam in many Europeans. For centuries there was great propaganda against Arabs (Muslims as a whole) and Islam despite Arabs and Islam influencing Europe greatly in terms of agriculture, science, literature, philosophy, architecture etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Agricultural_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-modern_Arab_scientists_and_scholars

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/how-islam-created-europe/476388/

https://www.alislam.org/library/articles/How-Europe-came-to-forget-Arabic-heritage.pdf

Yale University:

The Role of the Arab-Islamic World in the Rise of the West: Implications for Contemporary Trans-Cultural Relations

https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/role-ar...cations-contemporary-trans-cultural-relations

Nor is it in their interests (overall) to see a strong Arab or Islamic world. Many also dislike KSA for its age old support for Arab and Muslim causes. They hate when KSA finances mosques, Arabic learning centers, Arabic cultural centers etc. for Arabs and non-Arabs in the West. Or that we have too much wealth and too many natural resources, minerals. Our location. Preferably they would prefer us to be like Liberia or Zimbabwe. So why would they talk well about us?

How many times have you seen Western media (especially social-liberal) talk well about KSA? Even when we help European Siamese twins (we are experts on this field) you hardly here much positives. For free.









https://www.foxnews.com/story/polish-conjoined-twins-undergo-separation

Or our donations to poor people across the world. Or investments in the West (ok, this is business and also goes the other way around but there is a clear bias without a doubt).

 

[Microsoft]

Because unlike most non-Arab Muslims, Arabs have ruled large parts of Europe for 800 years. All of Iberia (Spain, Portugal, Andorra, Gibraltar), parts of Southern France, Sicily, parts of Southern Italy, Crete (Greece), Cyprus, Malta etc. Arabs and Europeans (Westerners) have been competitors for power, when both had empires, for trade (Europeans began exploring the Western Hemisphere because they wanted to find a route to India and South East Asia, China etc. that did not go through Arab lands and the trade routes that we Arabs controlled), Arabs are the biggest immigrant group (Muslim and non-Muslim) in the West. There is a fear of Islam in many Europeans. For centuries there was great propaganda against Arabs (Muslims as a whole) and Islam despite Arabs and Islam influencing Europe greatly in terms of agriculture, science, literature, philosophy, architecture etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Agricultural_Revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-modern_Arab_scientists_and_scholars

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/05/how-islam-created-europe/476388/

https://www.alislam.org/library/articles/How-Europe-came-to-forget-Arabic-heritage.pdf

Yale University:

The Role of the Arab-Islamic World in the Rise of the West: Implications for Contemporary Trans-Cultural Relations

https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/role-ar...cations-contemporary-trans-cultural-relations

Nor is it in their interests (overall) to see a strong Arab or Islamic world. Many also dislike KSA for its age old support for Arab and Muslim causes. They hate when KSA finances mosques, Arabic learning centers, Arabic cultural centers etc. for Arabs and non-Arabs in the West. Or that we have too much wealth and too many natural resources, minerals. Our location. Preferably they would prefer us to be like Liberia or Zimbabwe.

But why are the Arabs paying hundreds of millions to them still?

 

[Arsalan 345]

I think they are animals so they can execute.look what they did with kashoggi.kashoggi goes inside and his pieces in bags transferred to saudia.this wahhabism regime is like animals.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

But why are the Arabs paying hundreds of millions to them still?

What "paying hundred of millions"? Are you talking about mutual trade?

KSA has had a TRADE SURPLUS with the US for 40+ straight years. Several billions of trade surplus each year.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5170.html

Weapons purchases is business and most Muslim countries do it. However we are investing (heavily) in a indigenous military sector and working closely with non-Western countries such as China, South Korea, Japan and many others. Hence our close cooperation with China on our missile program and nuclear energy.

I think they are animals so they can execute.look what they did with kashoggi.kashoggi goes inside and his pieces in bags transferred to saudia.this wahhabism regime is like animals.

This news is complete and unproven nonsense. Khashoggi was a traitor and MB terrorist working with hostile foreign elements against KSA and Arab countries. Nobody gives a shit about him in KSA. Animals when it comes to criminals hence why KSA is one of the safest countries on the planet. That also happens to host the LARGEST Pakistani expat group in the entire world.

Let us ask one such brother @Malik Abdullah about your nonsense.

Lastly there is no such thing as "Wahhabism". Islam itself and Sunni, Shia and Sufism originates in what is today KSA. Locals follow all 3 to this day. Try another song.

 

[Arsalan 345]

What "paying hundred of millions"? Are you talking about mutual trade?

KSA has had a TRADE SURPLUS with the US for 40+ straight years. Several billions of trade surplus each year.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5170.html

Weapons purchases is business and most Muslim countries do it. However we are investing (heavily) in a indigenous military sector and working closely with non-Western countries such as China, South Korea, Japan and many others. Hence our close cooperation with China on our missile program and nuclear energy.



This news is complete and unproven nonsense. Khashoggi was a traitor and MB terrorist working with hostile foreign elements against KSA and Arab countries. Nobody gives a shit about him in KSA. Animals when it comes to criminals hence why KSA is one of the safest countries on the planet. That also happens to host the LARGEST Pakistani expat group in the entire world.

Let us ask one such brother @Malik Abdullah about your nonsense.

Lastly there is no such thing as "Wahhabism". Islam itself and Sunni, Shia and Sufism originates in what is today KSA. Locals follow all 3 to this day. Try another song.

Wahhabism originated in 1800 and it has nothing to do with islam.kashoggi might be traitor for you but you can't kill a person in your embassy on foreign land.you are criminals from day one.you killed ottomans by joining british.you are basically a group with no respect.look at your history.saudis are making terrorist in each madrassas.remember a mosque in Belgium is ceased because you were making terrorist there also.islam originated in the land of arabs.there was nothing like saudia arabia.you killed a man in turkey.you are animals.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Wahhabism originated in 1800 and it has nothing to do with islam.kashoggi might be traitor for you but you can't kill a person in your embassy on foreign land.you are criminals from day one.you killed ottomans by joining british.you are basically a group with no respect.look at your history.saudis are making terrorist in each madrassas.remember a mosque in Belgium is ceased because you were making terrorist there also.islam originated in the land of arabs.there was nothing like saudia arabia.you killed a man in turkey.you are animals.

I am sorry to break this news for you but I did not live in the 1700's nor 100 years ago. "Wahhabism" was a social-political-religious movement that originated in Najd (1 out of many historical regions in modern-day KSA) and which was a reformist movement tied to the Hanball Sunni fiqh.

Embassies are not foreign territory. You need to read up on international law.

There were hardly any "Ottomans" in modern-day KSA. All of them that were "Ottomans" were local Hijazis. Most Ottomans were ethnically Arabs as Arabs were the majority. Secondly you are confusing the Hashemites that ruled Hijaz for 1000+ years with the House of Saud. The House of Saud did not take part in the Arab Uprising 100 years ago.

Of course. Terrorists everywhere, lol. Millions of mosques founded by KSA from Senegal to Papua and yet terrorists can be counted on a few hands. I think those select few terrorists have mental problems like most of them. Have nothing to do with any Islamic teachings.

Which is why I said "WHAT IS TODAY MODERN-DAY SAUDI ARABIA". You seem to have more problems than just being able to read simple English. Go cry elsewhere about your Khashoggi. The government would not have killed him if there was no reason for it since there are 1000's of opposition figures in the West alone who are 1000 times more vocal than he ever was. He was pro-House of Saud to his last day. You like most people are not familiar with his writings or opinions.

 

[B.K.N]

I think they are animals so they can execute.look what they did with kashoggi.kashoggi goes inside and his pieces in bags transferred to saudia.this wahhabism regime is like animals.

Khashoggi was to them what Hussain haqqani types are to us
wouldn't you like Hussain haqqani to turn into pieces

 

[Timur]

Never has a 13 year even been executed in KSA

they wait until they are 18!

Wahhabism originated in 1800 and it has nothing to do with islam.kashoggi might be traitor for you but you can't kill a person in your embassy on foreign land.you are criminals from day one.you killed ottomans by joining british.you are basically a group with no respect.look at your history.saudis are making terrorist in each madrassas.remember a mosque in Belgium is ceased because you were making terrorist there also.islam originated in the land of arabs.there was nothing like saudia arabia.you killed a man in turkey.you are animals.

lets analyse the problem here:
1. he is daif al arab (any argument more is just the weight of a mosqitos wing)
2. he has a french mother (a huge hole in his heart)
3. he is obsessed being an arab.. (a really big mental issue)
4. you know if you would have half of your balls like not being a full arab.. you would also be pissed off.. (results in a psychological disorder)

dont waste much energy for him just let yourself be entertained by his fantasies..

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

they wait until they are 18!



lets analyse the problem here:
1. he is daif al arab (any argument more is just the weight of a mosqitos wing)
2. he has a french mother (a huge hole in his heart)
3. he is obsessed being an arab.. (a really big mental issue)
4. you know if you would have half of your balls like not being a full arab what.. you would also be pissed off.. (aresults in a psychological disorder)

dont waste much energy for him just let yourself be entertained by his fantasies..

Here comes the Arabized and Turkified Anatolian offspring of Arabs, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds and what not and his fantasy nonsense. You are yet to "win" an argument against me to date.

Unlike you I can single-handedly deal with any troll and several at once successfully. Using sane arguments and nothing else. I don't need to shout, invent lies or fantasies like you are doing.

I am as French as you are the descendent of some Turkic person originally from the Central Asian steppe. Make up your own conclusions how likely that is.

When you have nothing to counter, as seen in this thread and elsewhere about the facts that I wrote, you resort to complete and utter nonsense. Some idiotic Arabized Farsi troll made a baseless claim of me being half French (where is the proof of that, lol) and you are blindly believing it.

I already told you that no Arab has any complexes of being Arab. Rather the opposite everyone knows that Arabs are extremely proud people. There are even jokes about this. Lastly if deeply caring for Arab civilization, history, language, architecture, poetry, cuisine, heritage, land, people, affairs etc. makes me "obsessed" so be it. I am here to mostly discuss Arab affairs not Indian, Turkish, Iranian and other affairs. If related to Pakistan (which they often can be due to the close ties between KSA, GCC - important part of the Arab world) and Pakistan, I am active as well. If I wanted to discuss non-Arab affairs here I would be posting in non-Arab related sections which I never do. Likewise I never visit them.

Anyway what can be expected from an uneducated Turkish migrant in Germany originally from some impoverished Anatolian village and an Arabized guy with inferiority complexes towards Arabs, hence your obsession.

Welcome on my ignore list and hopefully a moderator will deal with your trolling and Arab obsession.

 

[KingWest]

Its their country. What would you say if Turkey did the same?

I would be harder and say that Turkey should be ashamed of itself tbh