Can Pakistan 🇵🇰 Army stay out of politics?

CAN THE MILITARY STAY OUT OF POLITICS?

If the army is, in fact, serious about reshaping its image, it will need to undertake certain reforms.

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[Falcon34]

CAN THE MILITARY STAY OUT OF POLITICS?

If the army is, in fact, serious about reshaping its image, it will need to undertake certain reforms.

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NEVER!!!

 

[Olympus81]

The Establishment probably knows it, they are smart, but power and $$$ trumps everything.

 

[karachidude86]

niazi sb na bataya ha neutral janwar hotay hain, aur corruption ki waja sa isi na sharif aur niazi ko nikala, but jiay niazi

 

[Jango]

To summarize, No.

Why? One should read the 'Capacity Issues' section of the article.

Moving on from the usual making and breaking of parties, the military in Pakistan has a role to fulfill, and no one can deny that.

The lack of civilian coherence, broken bureaucratic structure, and petty political benefit is what invites the army, and necessitates it's role. Take for example the NCOC. The civilian government simply could not implement it's strategies without the help of the army.

Now you might say, all this is because of the army in the first place, it never let these civilian institutions build up, and you might be correct. But the answer is not as simple as that. There is civilian apathy as well, due to our natural had harami as a nation, sorry to say. The army, or PMA, removes some of that had harami, and the code of conduct of the military requires that you follow orders to the best of your ability. That is what makes the army a somewhat functioning institution in this country.

Now, functioning in aid of civilian government in many different fields is nothing to be ashamed of. Fauj Pakistan ki hi hai, aur harami hi hai. But that does not mean that the fauj should act as kingmaker, and it chooses when to support a government and when to bring it down. It cannot choose when to tell 10 MNA's to switch sides, it cannot threaten MNA's, it cannot quell public opinion if it is against it.

I know someone will invariably come in and say agr fauj yeh sab nhn kar sakti phir fauj baki kaam in aid of civilian government bhi nhn karay gi. Please get out with that logic.

 

[SIPRA]

NO. Not under the prevailing system.

 

[Valar.]

Lol.. it's like asking can Maasi phappha khutni stay out of others' business.

 

[SIPRA]

Lol.. it's like asking can Maasi phappha khutni stay out of others' business.

OR....... Can Naazo Gashti stay out of the prostitution business?

 

[newb3e]

no as long as there is land to occupy and resources to loot they wont!

 

[Vapnope]

It shouldn't be about what they want but what exactly political parties want. Every political party when in opposition talks about army's rule in politics but get to boot polish the army when in govt, be it IK, NS, Zardari or Altaf. Army should be pushed out of politics and political evolutionary process should take its shape.

 

[_Sherdils_]

Being another security state with alot of challenges from hostile neighbours, I wonder if Israel has the same oversized role of their military and their military chief?

If not (and they had no military coups afaik), than this argument presented in Pakistan that COAS here will always have an oversized role due to the security situation of this country seems vague.

 

[RealNapster]

CAN THE MILITARY STAY OUT OF POLITICS?

If the army is, in fact, serious about reshaping its image, it will need to undertake certain reforms.

www.dawn.com

I have nothing to add on this discussion. But as I recently started to share Pashto proverbs hence here is the proverb of the day.

Kuni ordigi kho kuna e na ordigi.

Translation : G@ndu to ruk jay par usko G@and nahe rukhne deti..

Any resemblance to topic under discussion is purely accidental.

 

[Riz]

Haram khany ki haramion ko adit pari hoi ha , haram is kadar kha rahy hain generals k inko corruption buri lagti he nhi ha

 

[Imran Khan]

ho nhi sakta

 

[TheSolution]

The very least and most urgently required thing the army can do is to at least allow educated and competent high IQ people in important positions!

How can you be involved in every aspect the country and still do a shit job at managing it, you're just making things worse