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Define 'terrorism' for me.
I'll be happy to in a thread where it's relevant.
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Define 'terrorism' for me.
Finished reading. I don't have much to add to my previous comment, except to say that Susan Rice is approaching this from a political perspective, not an anthropological perspective. She makes a lot of claims about how X factor affects the development of terrorism, without presenting any data to support such claims. I'm afraid this paper doesn't cut it.
I like to think of myself as an open-minded person, so I thought, if a paper from 2002 doesn't satisfy my friend @Nihonjin1051, I should find a more recent one. From 2010:
Economic Conditions and the Quality of Suicide Terrorism
I'm afraid it's reached the same conclusions--little correlation between poverty / low education and terrorism. And this makes sense, because we see it in reality. Osama bin Laden was, of course, from a wealthy family. Mohammed Atta was an engineer and architect, and came from a wealthy family. Ziad Jarrah was from a wealthy family and studied aerospace engineering. Et cetera.
Even if Japan selects only the highly educated and wealthy, there is no guarantee it won't have another Hamburg Cell on its hands at some point.
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I'll be happy to in a thread where it's relevant.
It's simple, where there's occupation there is retribution against it. When there wasn't an occupation, there was no bombing.
It's absolutely relevant since you brought it into this topic.
I like to think of myself as an open-minded person, so I thought, if a paper from 2002 doesn't satisfy my friend @Nihonjin1051, I should find a more recent one. From 2010:
Economic Conditions and the Quality of Suicide Terrorism
I'm afraid it's reached the same conclusions--little correlation between poverty / low education and terrorism. And this makes sense, because we see it in reality. Osama bin Laden was, of course, from a wealthy family. Mohammed Atta was an engineer and architect, and came from a wealthy family. Ziad Jarrah was from a wealthy family and studied aerospace engineering. Et cetera.
Even if Japan selects only the highly educated and wealthy, there is no guarantee it won't have another Hamburg Cell on its hands at some point.
Huh? I think you're in the wrong thread.
On topic: what do you think about the article posted by the OP?
Not just rich but often highly educated too. The leader of ISIS for example, Dr. Al-Baghdadi has a PhD.
It's not just economic conditions, look at all the terribly poor people in the world, who have hardly any food, let alone being a billionaire like Bin Laden.
Guizhou for example is the poorest province in China, yet I've never heard of a single instance of terrorism from there.
It's a specific kind of extremist ideology that is the problem. The real poor people of the world don't have the money or the time to go off and fight for some ideology.
Don't cop out, you started this discussion and I've joined.
I care about your posts.
Why did you bring occupation and bombing into this thread? I don't understand the relevance.
Exactly. Ideology matters. Culture matters.
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It's a specific kind of extremist ideology that is the problem. The real poor people of the world don't have the money or the time to go off and fight for some ideology, just imagine a poor rural farmer in Guizhou province for example, how on Earth would he have the time or resources to go and fight in Syria?
OP you may accidentally be propagating the false generalization that your average Islamic person = Wahhabi fundamentalist, or one of the many groups that have hijacked Islam's name.
I live in an area with about 4x the national average of Muslim residents, and it is one of the safest areas of the country.
Some of the general Islamic world has reasons to not be in love with America's foreign policy regarding Israel and Iran, but that does not mean they do not or could not co-exist with everyone else here.
The point I'm trying to make is that Islam & Muslims do not condone violence...they never will !
@LeveragedBuyout opined:
I'm afraid it's reached the same conclusions--little correlation between poverty / low education and terrorism.
@Nihonjin1051 's response:
The paper written by Benmelech, Berrebi, and Klor (2010) was a rather didactic piece of work that tried to analyze the link between economic conditions and quality of suicide terrorism. While there are some analysis that counters the positive correlation between economic depravity with terrorism, there has been an indirect relationship. The premise of the paper was to study the intensive rather than the extensive margin of terrorism, and thus posited to study the quality of terrorism and its relation to the underlying economic condition. There was a notion that economic conditions are potentially correlated with the quality of terrorism. Benmelech et al (2010) stated that through systematic analysis uncovered correlation between economic conditions and the characteristics of suicide terrorists and targets that they choose. Benmelech et al (2010) expound on the fact that bad economic conditions affect groups that provide excludable public goods by increasing their ability to commit terror attacks during instances of economic recession or economic hardships. This paper effectively helps to identify the basis of social cleavage theory and its correlation to economic hardships and the quality of terror. In effect, the more economically adversed a society is, the more quality suicide terrorists are recruited , and thus affects the dependent variable. Through meta-analysis, there is a definite link between economic situations, which directly influences the quality of terror, in the fact that the more economically dire the situation, the higher the quality of suicide attacks.
Reference:
Benmelech, Efraim., Berrebi, Claude., Klor, Esteban. (2010). Economic Conditions and the Quality of Suicide Terrorism. Retrieved from: Economic Conditions and the Quality of Suicide Terrorism
You don't understand the relevance yet intentionally cited an Israeli study. It is absolutely relevant. What you've been implying in this whole thread is nonsense.
I don't understand what you're trying to imply here, can you please connect your excerpt with an argument? I have shown, and this paper agrees, that poverty and low education does not increase terrorism. The paper points out that poverty provides a larger pool of educated candidates to choose from, and so they are able to execute higher-quality attacks, but the frequency of attacks is not affected by poverty.
And? What is the connection to our topic?