can anybody deny this fact?

[SQ8]

The amount of division on ethnic lines in khi is mind boggling, and the people are blatanty racist. Pathans and these mqm types are the most vile vicious cut throat people in my experience.

Yes Kashmiri are thankless and haramkhor in my opinion. They are easy to be bought by money. Then again Punjab is the glue that sticks this nation together

Seriously you need to reel in this w11 character, he has a habit of bringing out karachi alag kardenge nd muhajir n what nonsense. He calls Punjabis paindu ahhaha, jani ussi te haiggayan paindu

Not exactly. Punjab is no glue.. just that its the largest population which seems to be sticking together. While the rest want nothing to with them. Which is why I insist that this is not a nation, but nations.

 

[ghoul]

Well, the issues that Karachi faces are quite real and so is the discrimination. But that is not limited to the Urdu-speaking community. It just depends on who is in power. If its PML(N).. only Punjab really does anything. If its PPP, then only Sindh gets anything done and that too interior sindh. So far these are the only two parties that have shows was is essentially a tussle between ethnicities. If you want to see thankless then try Kashmir, I remember starkly an interview of a woman complaining that nothing was being done while she gulped gatorade and ate high protein biscuits. If not for the development by the donors and the international assistance, nothing has moved nor have the people endeavoured to move it in those areas. There too however the divide of ethnicity and social classes shapes the "thankless" attitude.

Karachi is and will continue to be the lifeline for Pakistan. Ignoring it is at the cost of the state.

PML-N indeed is Punjab centric, but to say that development is only taking place in Punjab based on Karachi's resources alone is a blatant lie. This Abidi guy's Islamabad comment was highly offensive.

And Karachi is indeed important, but why should federal government be involved in paying them huge sums while their ruling parties launder money to UK or Switzerland? Don't you think federal government should instead on more deserving places like Balochistan and Gilgit Baltistan? Even if you give the corrupt mafia-esque parties of Karachi 1 trillion, they'd still claim it to be "bheek".

PS: And as for disintegration of Pakistan, go ahead. I don't really care. I'm sure we'd be fine in Punjab, though we'd have to get all cozy with India to get access to their port of Surat Also, a re-merger with East Punjab wouldn't be a bad idea either. In any way, in case of a disintegration, we'd abandon our policy of "khula dil" and all post 47 migrants would have to pack their bags and businesses.

 

[SQ8]

PML-N indeed is Punjab centric, but to say that development is only taking place in Punjab based on Karachi's resources alone is a blatant lie. This Abidi guy's Islamabad comment was highly offensive.

And Karachi is indeed important, but why should federal government be involved in paying them huge sums while their ruling parties launder money to UK or Switzerland? Don't you think federal government should instead on more deserving places like Balochistan and Gilgit Baltistan? Even if you give the corrupt mafia-esque parties of Karachi 1 trillion, they'd still claim it to be "bheek".

That is the big question. Who do you trust with Karachi. The same way to say that development funds are only spent in Punjab is a lie(even if an unfair and unjust share is done) it is also a lie that all money is siphoned off to the UK. The development undertaken in the areas held by the MQM is en exemplar for Karachi. One has to compare it to the areas held by other parties to get an idea. The areas of Defence Housing Authority have no place in this as they are essentially controlled by the Army and no political party has say in what goes on it, nor can any political party in it claim that it has pushed development in it.

Gilgat Baltistan may be deserving, but most of your trade does not go from there. Your fossil fuels, your goods.. everything that Pakistan needs to survive and flourish comes in and goes out via Karachi. the same way the largest employment pool of educated middle class is in Karachi. And it is their ignorance which leads to the feeling of deprivation.

 

[Men in Green]

Noora is trying his best to destroy Karachi. Soon they are going to replace Karachi with Gwadar.

Pakistan = Punjab.

 

[ghoul]

That is the big question. Who do you trust with Karachi. The same way to say that development funds are only spent in Punjab is a lie(even if an unfair and unjust share is done) it is also a lie that all money is siphoned off to the UK. The development undertaken in the areas held by the MQM is en exemplar for Karachi. One has to compare it to the areas held by other parties to get an idea. The areas of Defence Housing Authority have no place in this as they are essentially controlled by the Army and no political party has say in what goes on it, nor can any political party in it claim that it has pushed development in it.

Gilgat Baltistan may be deserving, but most of your trade does not go from there. Your fossil fuels, your goods.. everything that Pakistan needs to survive and flourish comes in and goes out via Karachi. the same way the largest employment pool of educated middle class is in Karachi. And it is their ignorance which leads to the feeling of deprivation.

The development under Mustafa Kamal is highly exaggerated. Even during his period, there were reports of collapsing bridges due to cheap construction material being used. Now even MQM officially declares Mustafa Kamal of being "corrupt" as he broke the MQM policy of "Jo quaid ka ghaddar hai, woh goli ka haqdaar hai". He was claimed as a middle class politician, but now it gets revealed that he has businesses in Malaysia and Dubai lol. Besides, the development in Karachi during his time came at an expense of other cities in Sindh. It was just like PML-N's development tends to be more concentrated upon Lahore than rest of the province. Mustafa Kamal's time was essentially a "takht-e-Karachi" time period.

As for importance of other areas; well, Gilgit Baltistan is an asset of Pakistan. It has done more for Pakistan than any other region. Aga Khan university, PC, Serena are all owned by Gilgit Balistanis. They were also the first one to initiate a military uprising against the Dogra ruler of Kashmir. And they also connect Pakistan with China. And within the next decade, Gwadar would hopefully develop into a fully functional, connected sea port and take some of Karachi's share. It would hopefully end this "federal government should give us money, otherwise we'd separate" black mail.

And most of our fossil fuels like gas for example comes from interior Sindh and Balochistan. Federal government needs to focus on those areas.

Noora is trying his best to destroy Karachi. Soon they are going to replace Karachi with Gwadar.

Pakistan = Punjab.

Actually we want Gwadar to replace Karachi. It's not just Nooras, but most Punjabi commoners. We're sick of being the bogeyman in other provinces, particularly Karachi. Yes, we are the bogeymen in Balochistan too, but we accept the excesses and our faults in that case. About Karachi and Sindh, we have a middle finger as an answer to them if they blame their own incompetence on us.

And Baloch deserve a state of the art, advanced Baloch majority city. Hopefully Gwadar would become a livable city with a Baloch majority soon.

 

[Men in Green]

Actually we want Gwadar to replace Karachi. It's not just Nooras, but most Punjabi commoners. We're sick of being the bogeyman in other provinces, particularly Karachi. Yes, we are the bogeymen in Balochistan too, but we accept the excesses and our faults in that case. About Karachi and Sindh, we have a middle finger as an answer to them if they blame their own incompetence on us.

And Baloch deserve a state of the art, advanced Baloch majority city. Hopefully Gwadar would become a livable city with a Baloch majority soon.

This will never happen .

karachi ko bhi alag kerdo pakistan se, if you can't do justice with this city

karachi ko alag kerne ki baat kerte hain to rona shuru hojate ho

^^

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

u fuckers deserve what u have been getting.
I ve never come across such a low life country & its 3rd clas country men who openly **** each other for the world to see.
your country doe not deserve to exit. I hope someone do you guys a solid and take you out of your misery so u fuckers can be with your mohajir, sindhi or whoever ancestor for ever & ever.

 

[ghoul]

This will never happen.

Why? It would hurt your "ethnic monopoly" over a sea port? I feel your pain bro. And what's wrong with Balochistan's development? Inshahllah they'll develop. They are a noble and good looking race. They should develop.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

u fuckers deserve what u have been getting.
I ve never come across such a low life country & its 3rd clas country men who openly **** each other for the world to see.
your country doe not deserve to exit. I hope someone do you guys a solid and take you out of your misery so u fuckers can be with your mohajir, sindhi or whoever ancestor for ever & ever.

Why else do you think we are in situation in the first place... we will fight eachother over petty things... even over political loyalities...

 

[Men in Green]

Why? It would hurt your "ethnic monopoly" over a sea port? I feel your pain bro. And what's wrong with Balochistan's development? Inshahllah they'll develop. They are a noble and good looking race. They should develop.

Open your eyes and read it again before replying, i haven't said any thing about Balochistan's development and i am not against it.

Actually we want Gwadar to replace Karachi.

This will never happen .

karachi ko bhi alag kerdo pakistan se, if you can't do justice with this city

karachi ko alag kerne ki baat kerte hain to rona shuru hojate ho

 

[ghoul]

Open your eyes and read it again before replying, i haven't said any thing about Balochistan's development and i am not against it.

But you seem to have a problem with Gwadar taking a share of some, if not most of, Punjab's trade goods like textiles, surgical equipment, rice and sports goods. Don't you? And trust me, most Punjabis want Gwadar as a reliable port rather than Karachi. Motorway from Faisalabad to Gwadar+ a rail link=win for us. We want nothing to do with Karachi.

And federal government shouldn't spend a single penny there. It should focus on Gwadar, GB and FATA. Karachiites should ask the money launderers they vote in the heavily rigged elections that occur there.

 

[Slav Defence]

I am extremely disappointed over seeing selfishness of some people.We are already facing hard time in dealing these terrorists.Our armed forces are deployed over sensitive regions of Pakistan and they are sacrificing their lives for the sake our defense and security, yet still some selfish and insane elements are talking of tearing Karachi apart and some insane people are stamping it as right decision.
Either you are some burger boy or paindu or behari or any outsider,don't you dare to even think of typing this shit.Have some fear of Allah subhana o tala.It is far better that my revenue goes to federal government and vice versa,but I can't imagine that God deploy any foreign force to recall me that I am just a Muslim,I am just a Pakistani.
Damn you,If our enemy would have ever come to realize that they don't need to fund/manipulate anti state elements (ie terrorist )but to leave us in isolation, then they will regret over wastage of millions of dollars.
I have just discovered that how much Indian existence is necessary for our inner peace, since their hostile attitude plays a key role in uniting/binding us with each other.
Regards.

 

[Donatello]

Not exactly. Punjab is no glue.. just that its the largest population which seems to be sticking together. While the rest want nothing to with them. Which is why I insist that this is not a nation, but nations.

That's a problem not only with Pakistan, but in nations that have diversity along ethnic lines. Turkey has their issues with the Kurds and Armenians, Iranians with the Baloch, Syria and Iraq the less said the better, J&K in India, South India (they don't want to accept Hindi as an overall language, are downright patriotic when it comes to their culture), Gujarat (funny thing is all the Gujjus i've met advocate Gujarat first and India later) and then the Assam region in North east India. Then you have Bangladeshis and Burmese, The western regions of China etc.

This mentality will take years and perhaps centuries to do away with.

In the UK (the first nation to become developed) they still have the Highlanders and Low-Landers, the Geordies, the Welsh, the Irish etc.....and the Scots now wanting independence....

 

[Zhukov]

and we karachi can stop giving you the revenue which makes 70% of your federal contribution lolz, banalena lahore metro, rawalpindi metro

this is still a bheeg and wont solve any traffic problem of karachi, funds not enough to develop karachi bus rapid infrastructure

WTF is we and you? We are all Pakistanis. Trolling baraey Trolling is not a wise option man

 

[Zhukov]

What we need is to reduce burden of Karachi by planning more cities in sindh near karachi and joining them to karachi via highways and trams. seems unrealistic for now but this is how future plans are set. We should not burden karachi more. Its already way too much over populated.