Can Afghan Army alone save Kabul from Afghan Taliban ?

[GURU DUTT]

Really pony?

You was always known for begging and dying and you begged f-16 deal from US, the entire world knows it. It is not the other way round beta. You didn't asked for f-16? than why modi rushed to US for a deal? Open your eyes kiddo

You guys got humiliated as always whether it CPEC, isolating Pakistan, confronting myanmar or anything else. If you pay for everything you buy than why your govt is holding billions of dollars to Iran? When you're gonna pay it?

I guess those 200 freedom fighters in iOC made you mad Pak dismantled almost 4000 taliban terrorists with 30,000 force and your 7,00,000 force isn't able to deal with 200 freedom fighters

do you know what is begging ?

begging is when you agree to do a job of a so called forntline state for a superpower but get abusive to the limit when your nations partiots start asking to cut all ties with a superpower who stops subsidies to buy the same weapon whicu still want despite having a better option ... got it

well LM and Boeing and SAAB are lobbying very hard to sell and hopefully manufacture F-16, F-18 & Grippen E to india

as for CEPC well to ypou it might be the only hope to get you economy back on track but we have many infact we owrselfs are building at least 4 such corriodores inside india and one with Iran and Afghansitan and that too by owr own money

and where does IOC come in i dint get what you meant kindly elaborate on that

 

[BetterPakistan]

do you know what is begging ?

begging is when you agree to do a job of a so called forntline state for a superpower but get abusive to the limit when your nations partiots start asking to cut all ties with a superpower who stops subsidies to buy the same weapon whicu still want despite having a better option ... got it

well LM and Boeing and SAAB are lobbying very hard to sell and hopefully manufacture F-16, F-18 & Grippen E to india

as for CEPC well to ypou it might be the only hope to get you economy back on track but we have many infact we owrselfs are building at least 4 such corriodores inside india and one with Iran and Afghansitan and that too by owr own money

and where does IOC come in i dint get what you meant kindly elaborate on that

Begging is also confronting and dancing on the finger tips of a superpower in return for NSG and defense equipment.

Don't make it wrong your PM and your lobbyists also worked to beg a f-16 deal. I think you need to proof read before posting because it contains lots of spelling mistakes

CPEC won't be the only hope because since 2013 our economy is recovering and what about your economy? Do you consider those tiny chabahar and other corridors gonna drive your economy? If you believe so than better wash your face

If you didn't understand than again read the conversation.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Begging is also confronting and dancing on the finger tips of a superpower in return for NSG and defense equipment.

Don't make it wrong your PM and your lobbyists also worked to beg a f-16 deal. I think you need to proof read before posting because it contains lots of spelling mistakes

CPEC won't be the only hope because since 2013 our economy is recovering and what about your economy? Do you consider those tiny chabahar and other corridors gonna drive your economy? If you believe so than better wash your face

If you didn't understand than again read the conversation.

well dancing on fingertips is when you allow that superpower to use your air bases to snoop on other super power or use those bases to kill innocent people by drones

as for lobbying well its not begging its owr legitimate right and duty to deprive owr enemy state having the latest weapons which will potentially be used against us .... you have diplomats to and a economy too why do you think that superpower is stopping your supplies when they themselfs have long back aknowledged your nation as "most important non NATO ally" but the same superpower is lobbying hard to sell the most potent version of the same watered down platform which your nation is still seeking despite so called "strings attached" and making all kinds of offensive noises once the same superpower stops subsidies ... in short seeking subsidies in begging or buying them with cash

well we have many options and are biggest FDI destination and fastest growing economy so we are not botherred about mere 45 billion $$ investment in your nation over a period of more than a decade when we are getting 65 billion $$s worth FDI every year ... get the diffrence

now the thread is about can Afghan security forces save kabul well there is no reason why they cant they off late are getting some good results after regrouping there army from scratch after 3 decades of devastating civil war

sure they are not as good as NATO or US forces but Afghans are fast learning the art of war and war is like a cotage industry for afghans from very early days

 

[BetterPakistan]

well dancing on fingertips is when you allow that superpower to use your air bases to snoop on other super power or use those bases to kill innocent people by drones

as for lobbying well its not begging its owr legitimate right and duty to deprive owr enemy state having the latest weapons which will potentially be used against us .... you have diplomats to and a economy too why do you think that superpower is stopping your supplies when they themselfs have long back aknowledged your nation as "most important non NATO ally" but the same superpower is lobbying hard to sell the most potent version of the same watered down platform which your nation is still seeking despite so called "strings attached" and making all kinds of offensive noises once the same superpower stops subsidies ... in short seeking subsidies in begging or buying them with cash

well we have many options and are biggest FDI destination and fastest growing economy so we are not botherred about mere 45 billion $$ investment in your nation over a period of more than a decade when we are getting 65 billion $$s worth FDI every year ... get the diffrence

now the thread is about can Afghan security forces save kabul well there is no reason why they cant they off late are getting some good results after regrouping there army from scratch after 3 decades of devastating civil war

sure they are not as good as NATO or US forces but Afghans are fast learning the art of war and war is like a cotage industry for afghans from very early days

$46 billion? You better need to search because since then it has reached $80 billion and if you guys don't have any problem with it than why your FO opposed it? Why your PM opposed it? Why your govt paid millions to RAW to destabilize it? Why still your govt is trying to destabilize it? Why sending spys to Pak to stabilize it? Why using afghanistan and iran to destabilize it? Why you tried to convince China to stop it but China ignored you as usual? I guess these questions need harsh answer don't you think so?

As far as air bases are concerned US air bases are present in all the countries which forms NATO so its not a big deal and even India is trying to become an ally of NATO. What about the aid which india has received from decades which is far more than Pakistan?

Yeah you admitted afghan forces are not better enough to tackle afghan taliban so kindly tell this to your brother too because he was indicating me something else

 

[GURU DUTT]

$46 billion? You better need to search because since then it has reached $80 billion and if you guys don't have any problem with it than why your FO opposed it? Why your PM opposed it? Why your govt paid millions to RAW to destabilize it? Why still your govt is trying to destabilize it? Why sending spys to Pak to stabilize it? Why using afghanistan and iran to destabilize it? Why you tried to convince China to stop it but China ignored you as usual? I guess these questions need harsh answer don't you think so?

As far as air bases are concerned US air bases are present in all the countries which forms NATO so its not a big deal and even India is trying to become an ally of NATO. What about the aid which india has received from decades which is far more than Pakistan?

Yeah you admitted afghan forces are not better enough to tackle afghan taliban so kindly tell this to your brother too because he was indicating me something else

well good luck to you but how does or why should it matter even if its 100 billion

we already have more and more FDI coming to us each year which is creating new jobs and skills in owr nation god bless your nation too see its always better to have constructive oppostion

point is no one in india against CEPC owr only problem is its passing through owr land occupied by your nation since 1948 you might differ but thats not the topic

no topic see we are training afghans for last decade and they now are in a postion to take there national armed forces to next level as they are in a constant state of fighting say all of there history but there will be losses and gains its part of the pakage so dont worry about us worry that peace returns to afghanistan cause if there is no peace in afghanistan your nation is going to be biggest looser and you know why .... cheers mate

 

[Bratva]

@A-Team

Is there anyone else beside the Haqqanis whom we (Pakistan) could endorse. Someone who'd be acceptable and popular with both sides?

@Bratva @Oscar

What do you guys think?

Hekmatyaar. But his unpredictability is a cause of concern

 

[litman]

The real peace is needed between Pakistan and Afghanistan and not Talis, once things are sorted out with Pakistan these monkeys will disappear in a matter weeks..

this peace is practically impossible when the afghan govt is in bed with the enemy of pak (india). the afghan intelligence is sending terrorists inside pak to carry out bombings and sabotaging the development projects in pak like CPEC. till the time the afghan govt stops her anti pak activities on behalf of india peace is impossible. and in return of this pak will keep on doing the unrest in afghanistan. it's like tit for tat.

 

[Sparkle229]

They are just ragtag militia and even Talibans are more properly equipped than those children

 

[Spring Onion]

If U.S. decides to spend only Two percent of its total defence expenditure for training Afghan forces and providing military hardware to it for the next Ten years, then in a decade Afghanistan might become a regional power to counter China.

Afghanistan to counter China with weapons and fire power HOW? Please elaborate

 

[GURU DUTT]

They are just ragtag militia and even Talibans are more properly equipped than those children

Children grow up and they (Afghan army) is not illiquipped dont underestimate them and over estimate talibans

 

[Sparkle229]

Children grow up and they (Afghan army) is not illiquipped dont underestimate them and over estimate talibans

They are made to be underestimated and why not over estimate the Taliban afghan army can't even put down a insurgency like that

 

[GURU DUTT]

They are made to be underestimated and why not over estimate the Taliban afghan army can't even put down a insurgency like that

you have such a large army and so fearsome fire power with all those F16s and vipers and MBTs and SGPs deployed against insurgents in pakistan but are you still able to defete them fully ?
arent they still doing there work ?

 

[Rafael]

We have put our house in order (almost) by the grace of Almighty.

We dont want any business with Afghans, send their refugees back and forget their is a country called Afghanistan in our western border. Lets pretend their is a lake full of snakes.

you have such a large army and so fearsome fire power with all those F16s and vipers and MBTs and SGPs deployed against insurgents in pakistan but are you still able to defete them fully ?
arent they still doing there work ?

No they arent. They have been neutralized by the grace of Almighty, but we are aware of your sympathy towards them.

 

[Sparkle229]

you have such a large army and so fearsome fire power with all those F16s and vipers and MBTs and SGPs deployed against insurgents in pakistan but are you still able to defete them fully ?
arent they still doing there work ?

At least we expelled them from their home bases while I can't say afghan Talibans if they are expelled or not

We have put our house in order (almost) by the grace of Almighty.

We dont want any business with Afghans, send their refugees back and forget their is a country called Afghanistan in our western border. Lets pretend their is a lake full of snakes.



No they arent. They have been neutralized by the grace of Almighty, but we are aware of your sympathy towards them.

Or pigs

 

[GURU DUTT]

We have put our house in order (almost) by the grace of Almighty.

We dont want any business with Afghans, send their refugees back and forget their is a country called Afghanistan in our western border. Lets pretend their is a lake full of snakes.



No they arent. They have been neutralized by the grace of Almighty, but we are aware of your sympathy towards them.

thanks for that reply sir but what i meant was that insuregency is not that easy to contain fully and you know there are still many insurgents in pakistan who melted away in publik and are regroubut still good luck with it thanks