Cambodia & Laos Defence Forum

[Carlosa]

pretty much our new frigate will have the same capability from the gepards but with western sensors and weapons. the budget is almost the same.

Sounds good, when is that order supposed to be finalized?

 

[Ayan81]

Sounds good, when is that order supposed to be finalized?

1st quarter of next year i guess, delays in budget hearing for 2015 for to much politicking is the reason for the hold up. Honestly I'm not expecting too much on its capability judging by the budget, i just wish they choose a bigger platform for upgrades to be done for the next administration.

 

[Carlosa]

1st quarter of next year i guess, delays in budget hearing for 2015 for to much politicking is the reason for the hold up. Honestly I'm not expecting too much on its capability judging by the budget, i just wish they choose a bigger platform for upgrades to be done for the next administration.

I think the Maestrales were a good deal and ready to go.

 

[Ayan81]

I think the Maestrales were a good deal and ready to go.

The Italians offered the Maestrales together with 155 howitzers and M113 and at that moment the AFP is looking/bidding for some howitzers and surplus M113's and to me its a good deal. Some say officials are not happy with the deal cuz they will get no money from it. Its fixed already.

Then the deal fails and the DND bid the Howitzers (Israel) and M113's (US stock) with turret upgrade (Israel)

In fairness with the navy/officials, maybe they see something wrong in operating the GDP class and thought buying new is a better option.

 

[BoQ77]

Binh Duong launches passenger bus service to Phnom Penh
Update: Dec 09, 2014
The southern province of Binh Duong ( Vietnam) inaugurated its first international passenger bus service to Phnom Penh, Cambodia, on December 6th.

Operated by Phuong Trinh Joint Stock Company, the service aims to meet the rising demand in transportation, tourism, medical checkup and trading between the two localities and the two countries as well.

Phuong Trinh Company Director Vu Quang Thanh said six trips run between Binh Duong and Phnom Penh from the early morning to 05:00 pm daily. A return fare costs VND500,000 (USD23).

Binh Duong, together with the southern province of Dong Nai and Ho Chi Minh City, are amongst the most attractive FDI destinations in Viet Nam.

In the past 11 months, it ranked third in terms of disbursed foreign direct investment with USD1.42 billion after northern Thai Nguyen province and Ho Chi Minh City.

The locality, together with Dong Nai, Tay Ninh, Ba Ria-Vung Tau, Binh Phuoc, Long An and Tien Giang provinces and Ho Chi Minh City, form Viet Nam’s southern key economic region.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

AutoKrAz to deliver large batch of KrAZ-6322 military trucks to Lao People's Democratic Republic
Posted by Maki Catama on 8:15 PM

AutoKrAz KrAz-6322 6x6 multi-purpose military truck.

VIENTIANE, -- Ukrainian company AutoKrAZ has entered into contract for delivery of a large batch of AWD trucks to Lao People’s Democratic Republic. The 6x6 KrAZ-6322 trucks will be built in basic configuration and provided with engine meeting Euro 0 emissions standard.

This model has been chosen by customer for a reason, as long as for operation in tough environmental conditions he needed a vehicle that performs as the KrAZ-6322 truck and features excellent cross-country ability, easy operation, maintenance and repair, reliability and ruggedness.
According to contract terms, the trucks will be delivered throughout 2015. The first batch is scheduled to be shipped in the first quarter of 2015.

To reduce cost of transportation KrAZ trucks will be delivered in sea containers as semi-knocked down kits. To provide assembly services, KrAZ will send a team of technicians to Laos. It should be mentioned that KrAZ trucks have not been delivered into this country since 1989. Within 11 years from 1978 to 1989, KrAZ shipped 380 units to Laos. These were mostly various AWD versions of the KrAZ-255b truck.

AutoKrAz to deliver large batch of KrAZ-6322 military trucks to Lao People's Democratic Republic ~ ASEAN Military Defense Review

 

[Aepsilons]

AutoKrAz to deliver large batch of KrAZ-6322 military trucks to Lao People's Democratic Republic
Posted by Maki Catama on 8:15 PM

AutoKrAz KrAz-6322 6x6 multi-purpose military truck.

VIENTIANE, -- Ukrainian company AutoKrAZ has entered into contract for delivery of a large batch of AWD trucks to Lao People’s Democratic Republic. The 6x6 KrAZ-6322 trucks will be built in basic configuration and provided with engine meeting Euro 0 emissions standard.

This model has been chosen by customer for a reason, as long as for operation in tough environmental conditions he needed a vehicle that performs as the KrAZ-6322 truck and features excellent cross-country ability, easy operation, maintenance and repair, reliability and ruggedness.
According to contract terms, the trucks will be delivered throughout 2015. The first batch is scheduled to be shipped in the first quarter of 2015.

To reduce cost of transportation KrAZ trucks will be delivered in sea containers as semi-knocked down kits. To provide assembly services, KrAZ will send a team of technicians to Laos. It should be mentioned that KrAZ trucks have not been delivered into this country since 1989. Within 11 years from 1978 to 1989, KrAZ shipped 380 units to Laos. These were mostly various AWD versions of the KrAZ-255b truck.

AutoKrAz to deliver large batch of KrAZ-6322 military trucks to Lao People's Democratic Republic ~ ASEAN Military Defense Review

Great acquisition for Laos !

 

[Carlosa]

Army denies Thai soliders confessed to burning 2 Cambodians alive | Bangkok Post: news

Army denies Thai soliders confessed to burning 2 Cambodians alive

Army officials are denying a published report that Thai soldiers admitted to burning alive two Cambodian men illegally trying to smuggle a motorbike across the border in Sa Kaeo.

"We beg the Cambodian side not to speak like this. Making such comments (causes) damage because (Thai-Cambodian) relations, at present, are going well," said a highly placed source in the Burapha Force, which supervises the Thai-Cambodian border. "Use reason and talk. Don't make allegation and then give such information."

The army source was responding to a Monday report by The Phnom Penh Post that military officials in Cambodia's Battambang province, opposite Sa Kaeo, said that Thai officials had admitted to them that soldiers, on Jan 7, burned alive two Khmer men inside car tyres after they illegally crossed the border to evade taxes on a smuggled motorbike.

Anh Kamal, deputy military commander in Battambang's Sampov Loun district, told the paper four Cambodian men discovered dragging a motorbike across the border and Thai soldiers fired 10 shots at them, missing completely. More soldiers then were called in and they managed to capture two of the Cambodians. That's when they were killed, he said.

The Post said Cambodian military and police have been denied access to the site of the killings. Locals reportedly have posted mobile-phone photos of the kill sites online.

The Burapha Force source - based opposite Cambodia's Banteay Meanchey and Battambang provinces - said Thai army soldiers have discussed the issue with their Cambodian counterparts and made it clear that Thai troops had nothing to do the deaths. Officials in the area suggested the case should jointly investigated.

The newspaper quoted a spokesman for Cambodia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs saying Thai Foreign Affairs Ministry officials were, in fact, cooperating with the Cambodian embassy in Bangkok to investigate the incident.

However, the Burapha Force representative said he was very surprised Monday to find Cambodian forces had told that country's media that Thailand had admitted to the killings, as both sides had already discussed it.

The Phnom Penh Post claimed the charred remains of the two dead men were sent to Bangkok for forensic examination and to determine the nationality of the victims. It quoted Moung Rithiya, director of the information and research unit of Battambang province, saying Thai officials asked for 10 days to identify the dead men's nationalities.

A man claiming to be the brother of two recently missing Cambodians said he believes his sibling is among the dead.

 

[Aepsilons]

Army denies Thai soliders confessed to burning 2 Cambodians alive | Bangkok Post: news

Army denies Thai soliders confessed to burning 2 Cambodians alive

Army officials are denying a published report that Thai soldiers admitted to burning alive two Cambodian men illegally trying to smuggle a motorbike across the border in Sa Kaeo.

"We beg the Cambodian side not to speak like this. Making such comments (causes) damage because (Thai-Cambodian) relations, at present, are going well," said a highly placed source in the Burapha Force, which supervises the Thai-Cambodian border. "Use reason and talk. Don't make allegation and then give such information."

The army source was responding to a Monday report by The Phnom Penh Post that military officials in Cambodia's Battambang province, opposite Sa Kaeo, said that Thai officials had admitted to them that soldiers, on Jan 7, burned alive two Khmer men inside car tyres after they illegally crossed the border to evade taxes on a smuggled motorbike.

Anh Kamal, deputy military commander in Battambang's Sampov Loun district, told the paper four Cambodian men discovered dragging a motorbike across the border and Thai soldiers fired 10 shots at them, missing completely. More soldiers then were called in and they managed to capture two of the Cambodians. That's when they were killed, he said.

The Post said Cambodian military and police have been denied access to the site of the killings. Locals reportedly have posted mobile-phone photos of the kill sites online.

The Burapha Force source - based opposite Cambodia's Banteay Meanchey and Battambang provinces - said Thai army soldiers have discussed the issue with their Cambodian counterparts and made it clear that Thai troops had nothing to do the deaths. Officials in the area suggested the case should jointly investigated.

The newspaper quoted a spokesman for Cambodia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs saying Thai Foreign Affairs Ministry officials were, in fact, cooperating with the Cambodian embassy in Bangkok to investigate the incident.

However, the Burapha Force representative said he was very surprised Monday to find Cambodian forces had told that country's media that Thailand had admitted to the killings, as both sides had already discussed it.

The Phnom Penh Post claimed the charred remains of the two dead men were sent to Bangkok for forensic examination and to determine the nationality of the victims. It quoted Moung Rithiya, director of the information and research unit of Battambang province, saying Thai officials asked for 10 days to identify the dead men's nationalities.

A man claiming to be the brother of two recently missing Cambodians said he believes his sibling is among the dead.

I hope that there is no truth these rumors, because if they are, these would be unbecoming of professional soldiers.

 

[Carlosa]

I hope that there is no truth these rumors, because if they are, these would be unbecoming of professional soldiers.

We don't know of course, but its very possible since Thai soldiers in the Cambodian border have the habit of shooting Cambodians that are trying to sneak into Thailand to work, so this would be just a more cruel variant of that.

 

[Aepsilons]

We don't know of course, but its very possible since Thai soldiers in the Cambodian border have the habit of shooting Cambodians that are trying to sneak into Thailand to work, so this would be just a more cruel variant of that.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Military Police Commander ‘Learned From Hitler’

By Mech Dara | January 16, 2015
National Military Police Commander Sao Sokha told an annual meeting of Phnom Penh’s military police Thursday that he learned how to maintain social order by studying Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, and that he draws inspiration from the rise of Germany under the leader’s authoritarian rule in the 1930s.

At the same meeting, Phnom Penh governor Pa Socheatvong also recounted how he conspired with General Sokha and the National Police chief in January 2014 to begin the bloody suppression of street protests led by “the enemy—in other words, the opposition party.”

From left, Phnom Penh governor Pa Socheatvong, national military police Commander Sao Sokha and municipal Commander Rath Srieng arrive at the Phnom Penh military police headquarters for the municipal force’s annual meeting Thursday afternoon. (Siv Channa/The Cambodia Daily)

Speaking to gathered military police forces at their municipal headquarters, Gen. Sokha said that he made sure the military police were always ready to launch security operations at a moment’s notice, in case “someone acts like a czar, doing foolish things.”

“Speaking frankly, I learned from Hitler. Germany, after World War I, was not allowed by the international community to have more than 100,000 soldiers, but the Nazis and Hitler did whatever so they could wage World War II,” Gen. Sokha said.

The national military police commander said he had also drawn on the guerrilla warfare tactics used by Vietnamese Communists in their wars against the French and U.S.

“I learned from the Vietnamese guerrillas to take small numbers to fight against the big, but that cannot be for winning, but to destroy them,” Gen. Sokha said. “If we want to win, we have to take big numbers to fight against the small.”

“The trick of the destroyers ran very deep. Their tricks were to push Cambodia into turmoil and to destroy the election results, and to bring change,” he said, referring to the opposition CNRP’s protests, which were crushed in January 2014.

“‘Change’ was to topple [the government]. They wanted to topple, so they had to create chaos to topple,” he said.

“They were not successful.”

Opposition leader Sam Rainsy was, by late 2013, leading daily street demonstrations demanding Prime Minister Hun Sen step down, and had drawn many garment workers taking part in a separate nationwide strike to join the protests.

Then, on January 2, elite military paratroopers broke up one strike protest in Phnom Penh. The following day, military police descended on the city’s industrial Veng Sreng Street, killing five striking workers and injuring more than 40 in a barrage of AK-47 fire, ending both the strikes and protests.

On January 4, military police ringed Phnom Penh’s Freedom Park, the base for the daily demonstrations led by Mr. Rainsy, and a ban on public gathering was announced.

Mr. Socheatvong said Thursday that the repression was necessary to avoid harm to society, and recounted how he watched as protests swelled.

“We are in charge of the capital and we want the capital to have stability and good security but the enemy—in other words, the opposition party—wanted to push the situation into further conflict,” the Phnom Penh governor recounted.

“Therefore, one wanted to prevent [trouble], while another wanted to cause trouble, and if the leaders were not serious and clear, it would have fallen into a situation not like today,” he said, in a reference to the current political calm.

Mr. Socheatvong said that the protesters had grown increasingly daring, pretending to be on the same side as police and military police forces deployed to watch over their activities while the government allowed the daily protests.

“It was not a simple event. At that time, the situation in Phnom Penh was getting bigger and bigger, after they pushed the armed forces by giving them roses and flowers, and this thing or that thing—they wanted to weaken them,” he said.

Mr. Socheatvong noted that Mr. Rainsy’s movement had already drawn together the striking garment workers and was threatening to “spill” into the education sector, creating a serious threat that the government might lose control.

The governor said he called together Gen. Sokha and National Police Chief Neth Savoeun for a meeting.

“We discussed among the three of us—that being Sao Sokha, Neth Savoeun and myself—that it was time already, and we could not let it continue. We could not blow the smoke away and had to put out the fire,” Mr. Socheatvong explained.

“The three of us agreed that I would inform the top levels, and I sent a message immediately, and received a phone call from the leader of the government to take urgent action.”

Neither Mr. Rainsy, the opposition leader, nor opposition spokesman Yim Sovann could be reached for comment Thursday.

dara@cambodiadaily.com

Military Police Commander ‘Learned From Hitler’ | The Cambodia Daily

 

[asad71]

Maj Shahud, ex AC officer of PA was deputed by BD Police to be the UN Police Commissioner of Cambodia. On return he narrated that most of those massacred in the Killing Fields were Cambodian Muslims.This harrowing tale was blacked out by Zionist-WCC media.I was in Phnom Penh about two years back.Locals pointed out to a slum across the bend of the river saying Muslims lived there.

 

[Nike]

are this thread is dead? if it's, lets unsticky this