Cambodia & Laos Defence Forum

[bolo]

Thai gen. like Major General Surasit Thanadtang support VN against big bad China, we soon will unite together to create a Great power in Sub-Mekong region

sorry dude, major general with yahoo email account but no government email account. Oh yes i remember him .

 

[NiceGuy]

sorry dude, major general with yahoo email account but no government email account. Oh yes i remember him .

And hes still a real Gen. in Thai, who cares abt some Chinese cant find his internet account ??

 

[bolo]

And hes still a real Gen. in Thai, who cares abt some Chinese cant find his internet account ??

Not just Chinese, the world can't find his email account. Not even FBI

 

[NiceGuy]

Not just Chinese, the world can't find his email account. Not even FBI

Then who cares ?? Hes still a real Thai Gen. and get salary from Thai Govt. Internet is not a place where everyone must create an account

U cant find any sources say that he cant get salary from Thai Govt. coz hes not a Thai gen.

 

[Carlosa]

There r abt 70,000 Vn troops in Laos, Laos great leader-Mr Kaysone Phomvihane is VNese, abt half of Laotian ppplation r Vnese.

Mr. Hun Sen in Camb was put in power by VN, lots of Camb's generals r VNese, Camb anti-riot police force use mainly VNese.

IIts all the Truth, I gave link many times in other threat already. Hope u will not try to deny the Truth like Chinese Ah Q here

Can you tell me what thread is that? I'm interested in that info.

By the way, a little secret: there is a vietnamese garrison in Phnom Penh, 3000 troops with tanks. They stay out of sight, never seen in public, but they are there.

 

[Carlosa]

Somsak, is it true Thailand got its *** kicked by the Khmer army over Preah Vihear? I was really surprised they would dare even contest it against you guys.

Its no contest actually, Thailand has the equipment and superior numbers and that's about it. Cambodia has the will to fight and that's enough, they are far better soldiers.

If Thailand numbers were to be actually about to make the difference to win, then Vietnam comes in. During the last days of fighting over Preah Vihear, Vietnamese army units started to cross into Cambodia in the Mekong Delta and the Vietnamese garrison in Phnom Penh was about to move to the front and right after that Thailand accepted Indonesian mediation and the fighting ceased, but the little secret of why, is the Vietnamese troops marching into Cambodia to join the fight.

I was living in Thailand at that time, I used to talk to Americans there that work with the Thai army like doing maintenance to their vehicles and other things. They used to tell me how incompetent the Thai army is, they don't maintain the equipment, they don't even keep maintenance records, they let the equipment deteriorate and when they need to use equipment for a parade, etc, they just paint them and patch up the holes so that they can look good for a few hours. They are all about looking good and saving face, but they are not good for anything else. The Navy and air force are better, but up to a point. Has anybody followed the news of how often Thai helicopters go down? Quite a few every year, one just a few days ago with important officers in it, that's the result of Thai style maintenance. Those things speak for themselves.

The Thai army main function is not to fight wars, its to enrich themselves and to be the instrument that keeps the Thai royalty and elite in power (as they are doing now after the coup).

 

[somsak]

Somsak, is it true Thailand got its *** kicked by the Khmer army over Preah Vihear? I was really surprised they would dare even contest it against you guys.

According to the news I got, which i have no.mean to verify, is that there were major failed offensive by Hun Manet, which cost major lost.to Cambodia army including two bm21s and many tanks, and our lost was minimal. I really guess Hun Manets abilitu as general. Many Thai seems to.think he gain his position because his father is Hun Sen, and not because ofmerit from his ability.

For my own opinion, yellow shirts' leaders are arrogrant. Our red shirt leader hope to solve thing via international.court. You know Im a red shirt.

 

[NiceGuy]

Can you tell me what thread is that? I'm interested in that info.

By the way, a little secret: there is a vietnamese garrison in Phnom Penh, 3000 troops with tanks. They stay out of sight, never seen in public, but they are there.

Here's the link abt 70,000 VN troops in Laos, bro.

The treaty signed on July 18, 1977 provided for the stationing of Vietnamese army troops and advisers in Laos after the end of the Vietnam War.

Eleven years later, the Lao government announced that all the Vietnamese troops had withdrawn from Laos but the dissident groups claim they remained.

"The Vietnamese government has, in fact, flouted all the Lao peace treaties and independence agreements by retaining an army of over 70,000 soldiers in Laos and occupying the border regions by setting many thousands of Vietnamese families to plunder our heritage and exploit our mineral resources," a statement from the Lao National Council for Democracy said.
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Call to Abolish Bilateral Treaty

This is Asian countries ally/threat | Page 3

 

[somsak]

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Yeah, I think all sub-Mekong nations should unite together and stop all dispute. Dont let other big bad nations take advantage on our dispute and weaken our strength.

I hope all east Asia nations unite together and stop all dispute so to avoid next.colonization too, bro.

Next war will be swarms of killing dragonflies robots. Let Asia be researching for that.

 

[NiceGuy]

According to the news I got, which i have no.mean to verify, is that there were major failed offensive by Hun Manet, which cost major lost.to Cambodia army including two bm21s and many tanks, and our lost was minimal. I really guess Hun Manets abilitu as general. Many Thai seems to.think he gain his position because his father is Hun Sen, and not because ofmerit from his ability.

For my own opinion, yellow shirts' leaders are arrogrant. Our red shirt leader hope to solve thing via international.court. You know Im a red shirt.

Camb armed forces seem like made lots of damage to Thailand,too.

A house burns in a Thai village near an 11th-century Preah Vihear temple at the border between Thailand and Cambodia on February 4.

 

[somsak]

Friendship with Cambodia is very important to Thailand. You can see Cambodia was the first nation visited by ,then, Prime minister Yingluck. Cambodia labours are needed for Thai economy.

For this particular case of Preah Vihear Temple, the temple has been ceded to Cambodia according to international court judged 1962. The point was that it was unclear if the nearby land of 4.6 sq. km (a very small peace of land when compare to size of nation states) been judged to Cambodia as well?. That was the point of dispute.

For me, it is very small peace of land that should be negotiable if people has friendship.

 

[Aepsilons]

Camb armed forces seem like made lots of damage to Thailand,too.
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A house burns in a Thai village near an 11th-century Preah Vihear temple at the border between Thailand and Cambodia on February 4.

I believe that building was a Thai border school. Its definitely not something to be proud of.

 

[NiceGuy]

I believe that building was a Thai border school. Its definitely not something to be proud of.

I just wanna prove that Thaland also got serous damage from the conflict.

 

[Aepsilons]

I just wanna prove that Thaland also got serous damage from the conflict.

Yes, if you want to consider the damage of civilian buildings such as an elementary school as a 'winning point'. A point of conjecture would be the patience the Royal Thai Armed Forces maintained, given, the Royal Thai Air Force could have easily decimated the Cambodian Artillery positioned near Battambang , had the Thai Government ordered for a full military response. Bangkok, however, was looking to find a diplomatic resolution to the situation.

 

[NiceGuy]

Yes, if you want to consider the damage of civilian buildings such as an elementary school as a 'winning point'. A point of conjecture would be the patience the Royal Thai Armed Forces maintained, given, the Royal Thai Air Force could have easily decimated the Cambodian Artillery positioned near Battambang , had the Thai Government ordered for a full military response. Bangkok, however, was looking to find a diplomatic resolution to the situation.

VN army will come and help Camb army in Battambang, then Thai army will get a very high casualty if they dont retreat.

Thai Gens. learned well from their lost in Thai-Laos conflict in 1987 when VN army came to help Laos.

A series of minor shooting incidents had occurred between Thai and Laotian forces in 1984. In December 1987, however, Thai armed forces occupied the disputed village of Ban Romklao, raising the Thai flag over it. The government of the Lao People's Democratic Republic protested strongly, insisting the village was part of Botèn district of Xaignabouliprovince. Thailand replied that the village belonged to Chat Trakandistrict (amphoe) of Phitsanulok Province. Laotian Army forces staged a night attack on the small Thai garrison, driving the Thai soldiers from the village and replacing the Thai flag with that of the Lao PDR. Serious fighting followed, continuing for weeks until a cease-fire was declared on February 19, 1988.

The brief war claimed a total of about 1,000 casualties, the Thais suffering more heavily since for much of the war they were attacking entrenched Laotian positions. Gen. Chavalit Yongchaiyudh was the commander of the Royal Thai Army at the time of the war and was criticized for engaging in it against the wishes of the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Vietnam had assisted its communist ally, sending troops from the Second Vietnamese Infantry Division to Baan Nakok air field in Xaignabouli to support the Laotian military operations, amidst the border clashes with Thailand along the Thai–Cambodian border.[2]
Thai–Laotian Border War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia