Calais crisis: EU border troops could process asylum seekers BEFORE they reach Britain

[flamer84]

The winners are also Europeans...It is a wise saying that winners re write history to show themselves as the ones morally correct!
Examples:
They attacked coz they were attacked.
They killed coz they were attacked.
They raped coz they were attacked.

Well, can I ask
how long it took America to move on from 9/11 - even after attacking Afghanistan and Iraq?
How long it took E.Europe to move on from USSR even after breaking it to pieces and putting enough sanctions to devalue its currency??
How long will take hundreds of countries to get justice from colonial period esp when Europeans keep saying it happened now move on....instead of acknowledging, handing over the bloody thirsty genocide generals and letting trials go on!

1.America will move on when we don't see al qaida,IS,etc,in the news.It will still be a while i think.
2.EE will move on when Russia stops interfering in its day to day business.
3.That depends on those countries.If they stop killing each other daily,stop moaning over the past they can move on to.If not,it's only their fault,not anyone elses problem.Let them wallow in butthurt if that's their choice,they are owed exactly NOTHING.

 

[Dubious]

Europe went through two WW which decimated its population

WW was started by Europeans themselves! Cant blame others there!

a new home and a better life,

Kindly wake up! What better life? The 1st generation that came in faced racism like no other!

it gave and still gives billions of $ in aid to non Europeans.It's enough.Actually,it's to much allready.

If it was I think policy makers would have stopped by now....But you cant put value to the no. of countries effected and no. of people List of former European colonies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1 war already causes chaos and psychological effects.....then its a butterfly effect from having generals like Mubarak, Ghadaffi, Saddam and Asad who were paid by Western powers and left to rule and kill their people if they object!

GENOCIDES
RAPE
LAWLESSNESS


What price do you put on it?

First Step to fix this is ACKNOWLEDGE! With denial it only causes pain and anger!

The ICJ held that the Srebrenica massacre was a genocide. It stated the following:

The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling within Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.

2ndly, stop protecting the shitty people responsible for genocides!

3rdly, trials should start and move till the end!


These MIGHT help....law and order no amount of money will fix justice until it is served!

1.America will move on when we don't see al qaida,IS,etc,in the news.It will still be a while i think.

Africans will move on when Europe acknowledges their mistakes! Instead of behaving in a rude and ignorant manner as though atrocities didnt happen!

2.EE will move on when Russia stops interfering in its day to day business.

Africa will move on when once generals responsible for genocide are dragged to trial and hung instead of being protected and trials being thrown out!

3.That depends on those countries.If they stop killing each other daily,stop moaning over the past they can move on to.If not,it's only their fault,not anyone elses problem.Let them wallow in butthurt if that's their choice,they are owed exactly NOTHING.

Well then the same applies for America and EE...Wonder why USA attacked Afghanistan or Iraq...they should have stopped moaning and wallow in being owned right?

 

[flamer84]

Well then the same applies for America and EE...Wonder why USA attacked Afghanistan or Iraq...they should have stopped moaning and wallow in being owned right?

Well,they can wallow in it for all I care.Hope they won't complain much when they're put in ghettos when they come here,face discrimination or they're simply thrown out.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Read about the Barbary States and their occupation from the 15th century until the 19th one.A quick google will help.

The ideea is not to absolve Europeans for their crimes but to show that everyone who could do it,did it.It's just human nature,that doesn't mean that current generations owe something back.On this basis we should nuke Mongolia.

The Africans sold their own as slaves.The Muslims ran an intensive slave trade which was eventually stopped by Europeans.Also,the Euros stopped the slave trade by themselves,sometimes fighting other Euros in the process.The Euros were also colonised by non Euros or colonised other Euros,see the Russian,A-H empires.Shit hit the fan everywhere in this world but weirdly enough only some people like to moan even to this day instead of seeing their own fault for the current misery.

WTH?? Are you trying to reason with him? Obviously he's one of those people from the developing world who blame all their misery/poverty on the west. For such people, its no use arguing with them, since you cant change their views EVER. So advice you to just move on and discuss the topic at hand.

 

[Dubious]

WTH?? Are you trying to reason with him? Obviously he's one of those people from the developing world who blame all their misery/poverty on the west. For such people, its no use arguing with them, since you cant change their views EVER. So advice you to just move on and discuss the topic at hand.

Another living in denial!

History cant be changed but your present attitude is just welcoming a new wave!

People who throw blanket statements are the people who know the least about the subject thank you for proving my point at the level of ignorance and denial you are in! When was the last time you TRIED to debate or change ones views? How exactly? Which one did I present is wrong that you are avoiding the obvious question and history to feel better?

You never invaded another land - wrong
You never did colonize another land? - wrong again
Your country never plundered people? Wrong
Your country never did war crimes? Wrong
Your country never backed bad generals? Wrong
Your country never went to another nation and looted? Wrong

Give me evidence of even one of this!

Explain How Britain NEVER did these:

The British Empire comprised the dominions, colonies, protectorates, mandates and other territories ruled or administered by the United Kingdom. It originated with the overseas possessions and trading posts established by England between the late 16th and early 18th centuries. At its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power.

Answer to these countries what your ancestors did on their lands: List of countries that have gained independence from the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hong Kong in the 20th century was still under British...Joke of the century!

6 countries were still under British in 1980s!! Joke of the century!

National Geographic Magazine - NGM.com

Did they not teach you to behave now that you are not lord of the world? Obnoxious behaviour over such a history should be shameful even for British standards!

 

[Gabriel92]

Lool. Dont call them savages, thats not good. They are human beings like you and ne, just looking for a better life in europe.

Huh.....why are they so desperate to cone to the U.K instead of remaining in france? Dont tell me britain is so better off than france?

Sure ? Coming ilegally to our country,throwing stones at our police officers,destroying everything when they arent happy,they arent savage ?
I read that a lot of them have family,friends in Uk,because most of them speak english,and because they can find easily a job. And because they are a lot of jobs in Uk compared to our country.

 

[Dubious]

Sure ? Coming ilegally to our country,throwing stones atbour police officers,destroying everything when they arent happy,they arent savage ?

Compare that to genocide, rape and killing to shush a rebel, looting, harbouring the generals who did genocide, racism in their own lands (big example S.Afrca)......
Surprised to see you laughing about a shameful thing!

I read that a lot of them have family,friends in Uk,because most of them speak english,and because they can find easily a job. And because they are a lot od jobs in Uk compared to our country.

True....

 

[Gabriel92]

Compare that to genocide, rape and killing to shush a rebel, looting, harbouring the generals who did genocide, racism in their own lands (big example S.Afrca)......
Surprised to see you laughing about a shameful thing!


True....

Still stuck in the past bro?
Why you guys cant advance,because you are stuck with the past,is it UkS fault if you are a poor corrupt country ?

 

[Dubious]

Why you guys cant advance,because you are stuck with the past,is it UkS fault if you are a poor corrupt country ?

I am not talking for myself...I am only talking based on analysis and reports and articles....

No one asked USA why they were stuck with 9/11 for more than a decade

They have better psychologists to analyze and treat the people than Africa yet ....took them more than a decade...Well, expand that to Africa

 

[vostok]

One thing I can not understand - what will the Europeans do after immigrants from Africa and the Middle East will be, let's say - 25-30% of population? When in the big cities Europeans will become a minority. What then?
Where will you go?

 

[flamer84]

One thing I can not understand - what will the Europeans do after immigrants from Africa and the Middle East will be, let's say - 25-30% of population? When in the big cities Europeans will become a minority. What then?
Where will you go?

They (Europeans) won't go anywhere,others will.And not to happy places.It sounds bad but it's a logical conclusion to an obvious clash of civilisations.

 

[Dubious]

but it's a logical conclusion to an obvious clash of civilisations.

Hence the comedy I posted....where he said he wished the S.Africans (his nation) had done the same when British came to their land....

 

[mike2000 is back]

Sure ? Coming ilegally to our country,throwing stones at our police officers,destroying everything when they arent happy,they arent savage ?
I read that a lot of them have family,friends in Uk,because most of them speak english,and because they can find easily a job. And because they are a lot of jobs in Uk compared to our country.

Yes you are right, they are indeed far more jobs opportinities here than in france.
Well, they are really desperate to get to U.K. though obviously dont condone their actions. im sure after we welcone them and give them asylum, some of them will turn out anti western and start bashing the west as well. Quite a few examples we have in this forum.

 

[flamer84]

Yes you are right, they are indeed far more jobs opportinities here than in france.
Well, they are really desperate to get to U.K. though obviously dont condone their actions. im sure after we welcone them and give them asylum, some of them will turn out anti western and start bashing the west as well. Quite a few examples we have in this forum.

-"You evil imperialist,spawn of Satan,your country,UK,must be destroyed! "
-"Where do you live man ?"
-"In Manchester.Why ?"

 

[Steve781]

I am not talking for myself...I am only talking based on analysis and reports and articles....

No one asked USA why they were stuck with 9/11 for more than a decade

They have better psychologists to analyze and treat the people than Africa yet ....took them more than a decade...Well, expand that to Africa

I would be quite happy for some of these Africans to move here if they built roads, railways and bridges, set up schools which taught us to read and write, brought us Christianity and preserved order between tribes who had been at each others throats for centuries..