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Hi Folks , this is the most recent update on Pakistan's UCAV program.

i believe that the Burraq platform is already undergoing flight testing and the R&D work is on its full pace moreover i believe that it would be operational by the end of this year.

The article i am posting says that UCAV would have its test flight in the coming year which contradicts to what i have stated but i know what i am talking about.:coffee:

There is one more new Program in development too, no future details are known about it other than that it may fly a Turbofan engine.

Here is a wiki quote to support my argument (unconfirmed though)
In May 2009 the Burraq UCAV was reported to be undergoing flight testing and would be armed with a new laser-guided air-to-surface missile and laser designator, also designed by NESCOM

Regards: BB

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The flawed drones deal
By Salman Siddiqui
May 04, 2010





KARACHI: The Pentagon offer to supply Pakistan with unarmed surveillance drones not only falls short of the requirements of the armed forces, but may also cripple the already fragile state of the country’s industry of unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) manufacturers.

So say industry insiders, who are furious about the deal. Last January, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates had announced plans to provide Islamabad with three systems of surveillance, comprising 12 Shadow drone aircraft and ground stations at an estimated cost of $20 million by the end of this year.

But industry insiders insist they have the technology to develop similar drones.

“Shadow 200 (military nomenclature RQ-7) is old by today’s standards,” says Dr Haroon Qureshi from Islamabad, who is a pioneer in the field and owns the private company East West Infiniti Private Ltd (EWI). “Several Pakistani programmes are equally potent and approximately 100 aircraft can be ordered from our own industry for the same amount of money,” claims Qureshi.

“The Shadow is a pretty docile UAV which provides video surveillance using the POP200 payload sensor built by an Israeli company Tamam; even its line of sight is within the 60- 120kms range that can identify a target at a distance of between two and four kilometres,” he adds. Raja Sabri Khan, the MITeducated chief executive of Integrated Dynamics, a private company based in Karachi, says:

“Our unarmed tactical drones can definitely match and even exceed the specifications of the Shadow.” Another UAV scientist who wishes to stay anonymous says, “It’s so ironical: the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will end up buying drones from a company whose roots are deeply founded in Israel.” The Shadow programme began as a project between the American AAI Corporation and the Israeli IAI defense companies.

A spokesperson for another private company, Satuma, which has a contract with the Pakistan Airforce, says the money would have been better spent if it had been invested in the domestic industry. Dr Qureshi goes a step further. “Had our military invested the same amount – $ 20 million – in the private sector 10 years ago, we would have had a much more sophisticated drone and perhaps even an armed version today,” he rues. Beggars can’t be choosers A senior Pakistan Army officer says the deal for Shadow and other similar US tactical drones are on, despite the reservations.

“It’s true that we already have our own indigenously produced unarmed drones, which we use for reconnaissance missions in South Waziristan and Bajaur,” he says. “What we basically wanted from the Americans was a drone with a weapons payload system. But they have refused to give us a Predatorlike weapon and now we are basically taking whatever we can get”.

But insiders allege that the only reason the military is going for the Shadow are the kickbacks and foreign trips.

“These range between five and 15 per cent of the purchase price,” reveal these sources. The army officer, however, rubbishes these assertions. “We will be getting the unarmed drones under the US government’s Foreign Military Sales’ provisions for security assistance and aid,” he insists. “If military aid for Pakistan is earmarked at $500 million this year, delivery of drones will be part of this package.”

Made in Pakistan

There are four private enterprises in the country that are currently in the business of making drones, including EWI, Satuma, Integrated Dynamics and Global Industrial Defence Solutions. At least two of these companies have exported their drones to foreign countries such as the US and the Middle East. “Our UAV industry has to go and look for customers in the rest of the world, while the Pakistan military ignores us,” they complain. Some scientists in an individual capacity are also working on drone projects.

An example is a Lahore-based engineer with a degree from NUST currently working on a shoulder-propelled micro drone for shortrange reconnaissance missions. The Air Weapons Complex (AWC) and the National Development Complex (NDC) are two public sector bodies under the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (Nescom) division which are involved in developing UAVs. Previously, Nescom’s Project Management Organisation was also involved in a project to develop drones, but later this body was disbanded.

None of the drones produced by private companies have an armed capability. Nescom, however, has been working an armed version called the Buraq for the last one and a half years, which is expected to make its test flight by next year. Drones in action Pakistan already has a fleet of two foreign-made unarmed drones. The Italian Falco drones were delivered to the Pakistan Airforce in 2008, reportedly at a cost of $40 million. These were were seen flying near Sargodha during the recently concluded Azm-e-Nau military exercises, says an insider.

The last of these 12 Flacos are currently being assembled at the airforce’s Kamra complex. The army has the Germanmade Luna drone which cost between $20 and $30 million. A local drone manufacturer complains that this will be third time when the armed forces will go for a foreign purchase despite knowing that similar high-end technology and cost effective products are available locally.

The indigenous drones with the Pakistan armed forces are the Uqab with the Pakistan Army and the Bravo with the Pakistan Air Force. (The Pakistan Air Force maintains a UAV base called Mureed which lies between Chakwaal and Sargodha.)

Both are copies of the same model which was designed by the private companies EWI and Satuma. The air weapons complex is working on a long range tactical UAV , which is basically a super version.

The flawed drones deal – The Express Tribune


Regards::pakistan:
 
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Hi
Good news! And it will be great if Pakistan rejects the American UAV offer, but it seems highly unlikely, our military is very impressed by the American technology irrespective of facts that the technology handed over to Pakistan is always outdated :argh:
 
^ We have better technology than that used for Shadow & its too little too late.
 
The flawed drones deal
By Salman Siddiqui
May 04, 2010





KARACHI: The Pentagon offer to supply Pakistan with unarmed surveillance drones not only falls short of the requirements of the armed forces, but may also cripple the already fragile state of the country’s industry of unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) manufacturers.

So say industry insiders, who are furious about the deal. Last January, US Defence Secretary Robert Gates had announced plans to provide Islamabad with three systems of surveillance, comprising 12 Shadow drone aircraft and ground stations at an estimated cost of $20 million by the end of this year.

But industry insiders insist they have the technology to develop similar drones.

“Shadow 200 (military nomenclature RQ-7) is old by today’s standards,” says Dr Haroon Qureshi from Islamabad, who is a pioneer in the field and owns the private company East West Infiniti Private Ltd (EWI). “Several Pakistani programmes are equally potent and approximately 100 aircraft can be ordered from our own industry for the same amount of money,” claims Qureshi.

“The Shadow is a pretty docile UAV which provides video surveillance using the POP200 payload sensor built by an Israeli company Tamam; even its line of sight is within the 60- 120kms range that can identify a target at a distance of between two and four kilometres,” he adds. Raja Sabri Khan, the MITeducated chief executive of Integrated Dynamics, a private company based in Karachi, says:

“Our unarmed tactical drones can definitely match and even exceed the specifications of the Shadow.” Another UAV scientist who wishes to stay anonymous says, “It’s so ironical: the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will end up buying drones from a company whose roots are deeply founded in Israel.” The Shadow programme began as a project between the American AAI Corporation and the Israeli IAI defense companies.

A spokesperson for another private company, Satuma, which has a contract with the Pakistan Airforce, says the money would have been better spent if it had been invested in the domestic industry. Dr Qureshi goes a step further. “Had our military invested the same amount – $ 20 million – in the private sector 10 years ago, we would have had a much more sophisticated drone and perhaps even an armed version today,” he rues. Beggars can’t be choosers A senior Pakistan Army officer says the deal for Shadow and other similar US tactical drones are on, despite the reservations.

“It’s true that we already have our own indigenously produced unarmed drones, which we use for reconnaissance missions in South Waziristan and Bajaur,” he says. “What we basically wanted from the Americans was a drone with a weapons payload system. But they have refused to give us a Predatorlike weapon and now we are basically taking whatever we can get”.

But insiders allege that the only reason the military is going for the Shadow are the kickbacks and foreign trips.

“These range between five and 15 per cent of the purchase price,” reveal these sources. The army officer, however, rubbishes these assertions. “We will be getting the unarmed drones under the US government’s Foreign Military Sales’ provisions for security assistance and aid,” he insists. “If military aid for Pakistan is earmarked at $500 million this year, delivery of drones will be part of this package.”

Made in Pakistan

There are four private enterprises in the country that are currently in the business of making drones, including EWI, Satuma, Integrated Dynamics and Global Industrial Defence Solutions. At least two of these companies have exported their drones to foreign countries such as the US and the Middle East. “Our UAV industry has to go and look for customers in the rest of the world, while the Pakistan military ignores us,” they complain. Some scientists in an individual capacity are also working on drone projects.

An example is a Lahore-based engineer with a degree from NUST currently working on a shoulder-propelled micro drone for shortrange reconnaissance missions. The Air Weapons Complex (AWC) and the National Development Complex (NDC) are two public sector bodies under the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (Nescom) division which are involved in developing UAVs. Previously, Nescom’s Project Management Organisation was also involved in a project to develop drones, but later this body was disbanded.

None of the drones produced by private companies have an armed capability. Nescom, however, has been working an armed version called the Buraq for the last one and a half years, which is expected to make its test flight by next year. Drones in action Pakistan already has a fleet of two foreign-made unarmed drones. The Italian Falco drones were delivered to the Pakistan Airforce in 2008, reportedly at a cost of $40 million. These were were seen flying near Sargodha during the recently concluded Azm-e-Nau military exercises, says an insider.

The last of these 12 Flacos are currently being assembled at the airforce’s Kamra complex. The army has the Germanmade Luna drone which cost between $20 and $30 million. A local drone manufacturer complains that this will be third time when the armed forces will go for a foreign purchase despite knowing that similar high-end technology and cost effective products are available locally.

The indigenous drones with the Pakistan armed forces are the Uqab with the Pakistan Army and the Bravo with the Pakistan Air Force. (The Pakistan Air Force maintains a UAV base called Mureed which lies between Chakwaal and Sargodha.)

Both are copies of the same model which was designed by the private companies EWI and Satuma. The air weapons complex is working on a long range tactical UAV , which is basically a super version.

The flawed drones deal – The Express Tribune


Regards::pakistan:

Zoordari must have been offered 10% on the deal that is why he is not even looking into local UAVs which is such a shame. Wasnt he the one who screwed U boat deals, we should expect such things from a man of his caliber.
 
This is what I found online in relation to the UAV.

Pakistan reported developing armed UAV
By Usman Ansari - Staff writer
Posted : Saturday May 9, 2009 8:17:26 EDT
ISLAMABAD — After years of watching U.S. drones operate along its Afghan border, Pakistan is working on its own Predator-like unmanned aerial vehicle to undertake the same mission, sources here said.

The sources said the country’s air force and government-owned defense conglomerate, the National Engineering and Scientific Commission, are flight-testing a new-design aircraft to be equipped with a NESCom-designed laser designator and laser-guided missiles. The Burraq UAV is named for a winged horse creature in Islamic tradition, similar to Pegasus.

According to local news reports, Pakistan is focusing its unmanned aircraft efforts on upgrading various older UAVs with Chinese help.

But the sources note that no domestically produced UAV is large enough to heft both a missile and a targeting system. The military’s most capable UAV is the air force’s Selex Galileo Falco, which can laser-designate targets for other platforms but cannot deliver munitions.

Officials with the Ministry of Defence and Ministry of Defence Production here refused to confirm or deny the program’s existence. A spokesman for the military’s Inter Services Public Relations said it was “not ready to give a statement on the issue at this time.”

One former air force officer said the notion of a Pakistan-developed hunter-killer UAV is credible.

“You only have to see our track record,” said Kaiser Tufail, a retired air commodore. “We have some fantastic achievements in the field of defense.”

Tufail said Pakistan needs such a weapon. Anti-terror operations on the frontier require “hours and hours of round-the-clock reconnaissance,” married with the ability to strike quickly when a target is spotted, he said.

HELP FROM CHINA?
Analysts were more dubious about Pakistan’s ability to produce a laser-guided missile, but they noted that help might be found in China or Turkey.

Turkey, with whom Pakistan has an agreement to cooperate on UAV development, is seeking an armed UAV, preferably the Predator or MQ-9 Reaper. This UAV may someday be armed with the UMTAS infrared guided anti-tank missile being developed by the Turkish firm Roketsan to arm the T-129 attack helicopter.

Pakistan could simply produce China’s new CH-3 unmanned combat air vehicle, “or co-produce any number of Chinese components to assemble a unique UCAV,” said Richard Fisher, China specialist and senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center in Washington.

“China has also developed the unique AR-1, a 45-kilogram, laser-guided attack missile, apparently designed specifically for light winged or helicopter UCAVs,” he said.

Pakistan reported developing armed UAV - Air Force News, news from Iraq - Air Force Times
 
Pakistan has made huge strides in the development of its UAVs–Mukhbir, Uqqab, Jasoos, Ubaabeel and others. Pakistani made UAVs: Uqaab & Jasoos. Up to now the technology was used purely for reconissance purposes, however since 2001, there is an empetus to emulate Predator and Reaper type of drones which has fire missiles and elimiante the targets without the effort of flyingfighter jets. Pakistan is very close on building its own “Predator” which will have the ability to carry and use missiles.



The Pakistani UAV Burraq is a Predator equivalent. Pakistani UAV firms are working closely with Italian, Chinese and Turkish firms–all of which work with Isreali technology, borrowed heavily from American products. The recent Turkish-israeli deal will help Turkey develop the next generation of Turkish drones. Pakistan’s indigenous UAVs: Uqaab, Jasoos, Mukhbar & Burraq ANKARA — Turkey and Israel appear to be on track to finalise a long delayed multi-million-dollar deal for the delivery of 10 drone aircraft for the Turkish air force, a Turkish official said Friday.



The project, launched in 2005, was under threat of cancellation amid delays and rising tensions between the two countries over Israel’s devastating offensive in the Gaza Strip last year.“Turkish experts are currently in Israel to test the drones,” the defence ministry official told AFP on condition of anonymity.Should the systems pass the tests, six aircraft will be brought to Turkey’s southeastern province of Batman, on the border with Iraq, for further tests, the official added.“If there are no problems, we will take the drones. We expect the delivery to take place in the first six months of this year,” he said.



The announcement came ahead of a visit by Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak to Turkey on Sunday for talks on mending battered ties following the latest diplomatic row.On Wednesday Israel was forced to apologise after Ankara hreataned to withdraw its ambassador over Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon’s public dressing down of the envoy.



The drone project had been expected to be completed in the second half of 2009, but it was delayed by technical problems, forcing Turkey to give the two contractors — Israel Aerospace Industries and Elbit — a deadline until early 2010 and threaten to cancel the tender.Last week, Defence Minister Vecdi Gönül said that negotations were under way on the compensation the Israeli companies would pay for the delay, but refused to give a figure.



Media reports have suggested that the compensation could be somewhere around 12 million dollars (8.2 million euros).The drone contract was part of an 185-million-dollar project that involved the manufacture of 10 aircraft, surveillance equipment and ground control stations, with Turkish firms providing sub-systems and services.



Under a 1996 military cooperation deal, Turkish-Israeli ties have flourished greatly until last year when the two countries fell out about Ankara’s almost daily criticism of the Jewish state over the Gaza war. Turkey, Israel on track to close drone deal: official (AFP).



When the war on terror began, Pakistan requested predator drones for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) so that the Pakistanis could monitor the 2500 kilometer long Durand Line. The request was refused. Pakistan also requested helicopters, and asked the USA to launch a satellite for Pakistan. The requests fell on deaf ears. Pakistan also requested 80,000 M-16s or Klashnikovs for the Frontier Corps who are still using WW2 vintage rifles. The guns have still not arrived. However Pakistan was asked to “Do More.”



Pakistan as a Major Non-Nato Ally (MNNA) and a founding member of SEATO and CENTO has not been given a single Predator or Reaper. Pakistan has an indigenous UAV capacity, but its drones cannot fire armaments. At present the laser guided technology helps it to identify targets and then relay that information to a helicopter gunship or a plane. Islamabad is in desperate need of UAV which can fire at the target. Need predicates development, and necessity is the mother of invention. It is like being under sanction. Pakistan was under sanctions when it designed and built the JF-17 Thunder with the Chinese. Now the latest UAVis being built with Turkish and Chinese help. Pakistan’s latest UAV is called the Burraq named after a mythical flying horse.

I apologize if its posted before....
 
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its a small model but seem similar to Falco from front..good post windjammer:tup:
and what i tell u guys this design is under consideration since first IDEAS exhibition but i hadn't seen it equipped with missiles b4.
 
the background is in chinese...doesnt look like burraq,
I guess burraq would be something of a falco,TIHA mix into one package with chinese techno....or maybe the destroyed predator drones will be put to use?
 
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