British bullets too small for "HIGH" taliban

[amunhotep]

The bullets used by British forces to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan has been dubbed too small, because soldiers claim that it requires at least five direct hits to bring down the militants who are high on opium.

here is the link

ASIAN DEFENCE: British bullets too small to fell 'high' Taliban

 

[vsdoc]

To the military professionals, is it possible for a man to continue standing, and fighting back, after being hit by 5 bullets, albeit of a smaller size? Sounds very Sunny Deol-esque to me somehow! The Taliban have all the pain relief grown right in their backyard ..... opium, and some of the best hash that side of Jari (based on heresay of course).

Cheers, Doc

 

[amunhotep]

To the military professionals, is it possible for a man to continue standing, and fighting back, after being hit by 5 bullets, albeit of a smaller size? Sounds very Sunny Deol-esque to me somehow! The Taliban have all the pain relief grown right in their backyard ..... opium, and some of the best hash that side of Jari (based on heresay of course).

Cheers, Doc

well said , but we don't know whether it's just opium or some other intoxicants are also involved

going by the logic of rehman malik who accused india of supporting the taliban, i won't be surprised if sombody comes up with reports of india supplying intoxicants to the taliban like the bhang

 

[vsdoc]

^^^ I don't know about the Taliban, but Rehman Malik himself seems to be perpetually spaced out.

Wonder what he's on (ketamine comes to mind ....)?

Then again, it might just be the natural IQ-congruent look he was born with.

Cheers, Doc

 

[zagahaga]

weeeedd hash smoke it i love boath best is from pakistani kush from the mountain

 

[mjnaushad]

This reminds me the song "Mughey peeney ka shouq nahi... Peeta hoon BOMB bhulaney ko"

Regardless of the opium the 5.56 bullet are not as effective as 7.62. After 8 years of war the taliban must have know that from how far 7.62 will kill and 5.56 wont.

 

[vsdoc]

Is it how far (effective range) or is it the stopping power? And since these forces have been in Afghanistan for quite some time now, WHY have they not re-considered choice of ammo used? Or have the smaller bullets shown some other advantage over the larger ones in other theaters of operation? Or is it simply a economics/logistics/choice of weapon/harmonisation issue amongst varied forces that make up the fighting units there?

Cheers, Doc

 

[third eye]

With time the battle field philosophy changed from killing to maiming. It has its advantages .

A wounded colleague is a greater liability to the enemy than a dead one who he can leave behind. Add to this the psychological effect a wounded colleague has on his team . Also , he ties down at least two if not four fighting hands who now have to carry him.

This was among the reasons armies the world over are choosing to shift to 5.56 from 7.62 mm . An additional payoff is the fact that the rifles now get lighter reducing battlefield loads.

The flip side is that ranges for rifles firing smaller caliber ammo get reduced. This is what is coming in the way of engaging the Taliban.

 

[mjnaushad]

Is it how far (effective range) or is it the stopping power? And since these forces have been in Afghanistan for quite some time now, WHY have they not re-considered choice of ammo used? Or have the smaller bullets shown some other advantage over the larger ones in other theaters of operation? Or is it simply a economics/logistics/choice of weapon/harmonisation issue amongst varied forces that make up the fighting units there?

Cheers, Doc

Facts from wikipedia

the AK47 Range Effective range 100–800m sight adjustments

The Assault Rifles used by British Army

L85A2 Effective range 450m with iron sight & 650m with SUSA

L119A1 Effective range 400 m (effective); 600 m (effective in a section)