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‘Britain has institutionalized pedophilia, child abuse’
Britain has institutionalized pedophilia and child abuse, with senior institutions covering up heinous acts for each other, a filmmaker tells Press TV.
In the background to this, Jimmy Savile, the former BBC star who died in 2011, is accused of sexually abusing over 300 alleged underage victims, with further investigations revealing the child abuse cases may have involved many celebrities and politicians.
Press TV has conducted an interview with Sukant Chandan, a political commentator and filmmaker from London, to further discuss the issue. Chandan is joined by Dr. Jon Bird, National Association for People Abused in Childhood, from London, and Ian Williams, Foreign Policy in Focus, from New York. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Have we seen or heard the last of what has occurred here, given your familiarity with the case? Can you set the stage as to what we’re looking at overall in terms of this Jimmy Savile case?
Chandan: Good evening, brother, sure I can. First of all, I’d like to really impress upon our viewers that the piece that’s just been leading into this and what sister Narges has just said is no exaggeration whatsoever. The lead in and sister Narges has actually just very factually conveyed what this report has really found.
Just to give a bit of context in terms of what’s been going on in the mainstream British media recently, there was a case, tragically, of a six-year-old boy who was beaten to death by his mother who happened to be Muslim.
Now, the mainstream media and shamefully the British Asian Network radio station including people like Bobby Friction and Nihal who was a part of that, having purporting that this has something to do with Quranic teaching and Islam, it’s absolutely nonsense. It’s obviously has to do with this woman. She had some serious mental health issues.
Also, we’ve been seeing in the mainstream media in Britain, the absolute colonial arrogance in the way that they’ve been reporting the anti-female violence which is obviously epidemic throughout India.
But given the impression that the British have any right to dictate to our south Asian people, they do not. Our Indian people are very well capable of dealing with this situation and they are.
If they can accuse Indians in such a colonial manner, and if they can accuse our Muslim community in such an Islamophobic manner, then what does this point to itself? It’s such a disgusting thing that’s occurred for five decades long.
As I was saying, this is not a kind of hyperbole by myself or Press TV. This is the facts produced by this official inquiry itself.
But, these are the questions that have to be asked, if only celebrities that have collaborated allegedly and most probably with Jimmy Savile. But what about Jimmy Savile’s very high profile contacts and very intimate friendships?
We’re talking about the royal family. We’re talking about Princess Diana. We’re talking about Prince Charles. We’re talking about senior government right the way up to the top of the government.
We’re talking about his friendship, his close friendships with senior police. The police have not been touched. The government has not been touched. Senior NHS have not been touched.
If we see the example and the model of what happened with the McPherson report at the end of the 90s which pointed to institutional racism, that’s institutional white supremacy within the British police force for their failings of investigating the murder of our young brother Steven Lawrence in the mid-90s, then what does this point to?
This point on the model of that inquiry. This points to an institutional child abuse. I’m talking about institutional pedophilia with collaboration between the absolute institutions of the British state.
Why hasn’t this come out on the report? -Because unlike the McPherson report, unlike the Stephen Lawrence campaign, there is no mass movement. There is no pressure from the British public.
Where are the English public? Are not hundreds and hundreds of our children not good enough for us to take to the streets and put pressure on our government to come out with at least some of the truth?
I’m going to discuss more of this later but this is the situation that we’re facing.
Press TV: Sukant Chandan, I know you have a lot to say but please do us a favor here and tell us what BBC has done here, because we’re looking at a man - and I’m sorry some of this may offend you - preying on mentally and physically disabled children at hospitals. One assault on a patient believed to be brain damaged. Reports of gang rapes of children, dungeons, reports of them containing bones to have been discovered. Boat trips containing children where rich and influential people would rape them.
Now, these obviously have to be proved in some cases. But we have the BBC who had this man who had actions occurring on their premises. What does that say about editorial judgment? Expand more for us on that, Mr. Sukant Chandan, if you can.
Chandan: Brother Kaveh, what more can I really add to what you said? I mean, it’s so debased. It’s so depraved. It’s an issue that this is a cultural issue and that’s even admitted in the mainstream. This is a cultural problem, a mainstream cultural problem.
Press TV: I’m sorry, what is cultural about some of these if some of these things are true.
Chandan: No, there’s a culture of impunity that that’s what I mean. I don’t mean it somehow as British culture. Somehow you’ve misunderstood me. You don’t need to be so defensive and jump in. Ok, thank you, sir. This is what’s going on.
What more can I add? It’s so disgusting. It disturbs one’s mind to even think about what’s going on. Again, I point to the model of the Lawrence Inquiry.
Let’s point to another model for some comparison. In Belgium, in the mid-90s, not the same but a similar issue came with Marc Dutroux who was a child abuser who senior members of the Belgium government were actually complicit with him in the abuse of children.
As a result, this movement of the “White” - it doesn’t mean the white people - but it was called the White movement in Belgium that had a demonstration in 1996 of 300 thousand people in Brussels. We’re talking about a very small country of 10 million people in Belgium and Belgiumers are not known to be very politically radical at all, and I’m being very diplomatic with my words.
Now, if you compare that with this island, Britain, which has around 60 to 70 million people, the equivalent of such a mass protest would be something like two million people on the streets of London. So, where are those two million people?
And that’s when I bring it back to the model of the Lawrence campaign where the very brave parents and brother of Stephen Lawrence, along with an Imran Khan solicitor and the coordinator Mr. Suresh Grover, especially the parents of Steven Lawrence, were brave enough to actually launch a public campaign.
This is what we really need. We really need some of these victims, and I know it’s an inordinate amount to ask victims of this type, but they really need to come into the public and campaign because the only way anything more is going to come out is through mass public pressure because these people are covering for each other. That’s totally clear.
This is so prevalent. This is so wide spread, this child abuse by Jimmy Savile and his cohorts that it’s clear everyone is covering for everyone.
I call upon the English people to really take to the streets and also to the rest of the world.
This is what Britain has to offer you from the BBC, from the NHS and the police and the government.
Don’t think at all the West and particularly Britain has anything sparkly or anything to your benefit. The people of Latin America, Africa and Asia who are watching, this is the nature of British society and this is the way that all the senior institutions of Britain are covering up for each other. Recognize the reality for what it is, my dear peoples.
Press TV: You talk about how people should come out and protest but, really, is that going to be effective? Shouldn’t we get some of these institutions involved in order for there to be some prosecutions?
It’s not right for people to have suffered in the hundreds let alone the cover-ups that are involved here, let alone the state-owned BBC being involved, etcetera. How do you see this moving forward, if this was up to you? How would you move forward with this?
Chandan: Well, we’ve already heard the gentleman from New York explain himself very clearly. It’s all-boys network.
Listen, there are so many other issues that are taboo and never discussed that pertains to the sexual kind of deterioration health of our young people. We have a social phenomenon emerging of basically sexual abuse of many young women who go through an initiation process in joining street gangs in their localities. We have a very unhealthy sexualization of childhood in Britain.
We have hard-core pornography which has become normalized and which is the primary source of - it’s not sex education but what passes as sex education for our young people.
There are so many problems that are never discussed. No one is addressing and really I call upon the young people in this country to get over your schisms, get over the disunity, get over the divide and rule tactics of the powers that be. Really, the onus is on you to take the situation at hand.
I guarantee you what’s happening with the Levinson’s scandal in terms of the police, the media corruption, with this new scandal that’s coming out, if we don’t have a social protest movement dealing with this, you know what’s going to happen?
It’s going to blow up again much bigger than August 2011 in the so-called riots which I call the uprising of the black and poor. It’s going to blow up even bigger and it’s going to make August 2011 look like child’s play. Can we blame young people for coming out like that? I’m not sure that we can.
PressTV - ?Britain has institutionalized pedophilia, child abuse?
Impunity culture fuels pedophilia across Britain: Ian Williams
Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/12/283215/impunity-guilty-of-saviles-crimes/
Britain has institutionalized pedophilia and child abuse, with senior institutions covering up heinous acts for each other, a filmmaker tells Press TV.
In the background to this, Jimmy Savile, the former BBC star who died in 2011, is accused of sexually abusing over 300 alleged underage victims, with further investigations revealing the child abuse cases may have involved many celebrities and politicians.
Press TV has conducted an interview with Sukant Chandan, a political commentator and filmmaker from London, to further discuss the issue. Chandan is joined by Dr. Jon Bird, National Association for People Abused in Childhood, from London, and Ian Williams, Foreign Policy in Focus, from New York. The following is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Have we seen or heard the last of what has occurred here, given your familiarity with the case? Can you set the stage as to what we’re looking at overall in terms of this Jimmy Savile case?
Chandan: Good evening, brother, sure I can. First of all, I’d like to really impress upon our viewers that the piece that’s just been leading into this and what sister Narges has just said is no exaggeration whatsoever. The lead in and sister Narges has actually just very factually conveyed what this report has really found.
Just to give a bit of context in terms of what’s been going on in the mainstream British media recently, there was a case, tragically, of a six-year-old boy who was beaten to death by his mother who happened to be Muslim.
Now, the mainstream media and shamefully the British Asian Network radio station including people like Bobby Friction and Nihal who was a part of that, having purporting that this has something to do with Quranic teaching and Islam, it’s absolutely nonsense. It’s obviously has to do with this woman. She had some serious mental health issues.
Also, we’ve been seeing in the mainstream media in Britain, the absolute colonial arrogance in the way that they’ve been reporting the anti-female violence which is obviously epidemic throughout India.
But given the impression that the British have any right to dictate to our south Asian people, they do not. Our Indian people are very well capable of dealing with this situation and they are.
If they can accuse Indians in such a colonial manner, and if they can accuse our Muslim community in such an Islamophobic manner, then what does this point to itself? It’s such a disgusting thing that’s occurred for five decades long.
As I was saying, this is not a kind of hyperbole by myself or Press TV. This is the facts produced by this official inquiry itself.
But, these are the questions that have to be asked, if only celebrities that have collaborated allegedly and most probably with Jimmy Savile. But what about Jimmy Savile’s very high profile contacts and very intimate friendships?
We’re talking about the royal family. We’re talking about Princess Diana. We’re talking about Prince Charles. We’re talking about senior government right the way up to the top of the government.
We’re talking about his friendship, his close friendships with senior police. The police have not been touched. The government has not been touched. Senior NHS have not been touched.
If we see the example and the model of what happened with the McPherson report at the end of the 90s which pointed to institutional racism, that’s institutional white supremacy within the British police force for their failings of investigating the murder of our young brother Steven Lawrence in the mid-90s, then what does this point to?
This point on the model of that inquiry. This points to an institutional child abuse. I’m talking about institutional pedophilia with collaboration between the absolute institutions of the British state.
Why hasn’t this come out on the report? -Because unlike the McPherson report, unlike the Stephen Lawrence campaign, there is no mass movement. There is no pressure from the British public.
Where are the English public? Are not hundreds and hundreds of our children not good enough for us to take to the streets and put pressure on our government to come out with at least some of the truth?
I’m going to discuss more of this later but this is the situation that we’re facing.
Press TV: Sukant Chandan, I know you have a lot to say but please do us a favor here and tell us what BBC has done here, because we’re looking at a man - and I’m sorry some of this may offend you - preying on mentally and physically disabled children at hospitals. One assault on a patient believed to be brain damaged. Reports of gang rapes of children, dungeons, reports of them containing bones to have been discovered. Boat trips containing children where rich and influential people would rape them.
Now, these obviously have to be proved in some cases. But we have the BBC who had this man who had actions occurring on their premises. What does that say about editorial judgment? Expand more for us on that, Mr. Sukant Chandan, if you can.
Chandan: Brother Kaveh, what more can I really add to what you said? I mean, it’s so debased. It’s so depraved. It’s an issue that this is a cultural issue and that’s even admitted in the mainstream. This is a cultural problem, a mainstream cultural problem.
Press TV: I’m sorry, what is cultural about some of these if some of these things are true.
Chandan: No, there’s a culture of impunity that that’s what I mean. I don’t mean it somehow as British culture. Somehow you’ve misunderstood me. You don’t need to be so defensive and jump in. Ok, thank you, sir. This is what’s going on.
What more can I add? It’s so disgusting. It disturbs one’s mind to even think about what’s going on. Again, I point to the model of the Lawrence Inquiry.
Let’s point to another model for some comparison. In Belgium, in the mid-90s, not the same but a similar issue came with Marc Dutroux who was a child abuser who senior members of the Belgium government were actually complicit with him in the abuse of children.
As a result, this movement of the “White” - it doesn’t mean the white people - but it was called the White movement in Belgium that had a demonstration in 1996 of 300 thousand people in Brussels. We’re talking about a very small country of 10 million people in Belgium and Belgiumers are not known to be very politically radical at all, and I’m being very diplomatic with my words.
Now, if you compare that with this island, Britain, which has around 60 to 70 million people, the equivalent of such a mass protest would be something like two million people on the streets of London. So, where are those two million people?
And that’s when I bring it back to the model of the Lawrence campaign where the very brave parents and brother of Stephen Lawrence, along with an Imran Khan solicitor and the coordinator Mr. Suresh Grover, especially the parents of Steven Lawrence, were brave enough to actually launch a public campaign.
This is what we really need. We really need some of these victims, and I know it’s an inordinate amount to ask victims of this type, but they really need to come into the public and campaign because the only way anything more is going to come out is through mass public pressure because these people are covering for each other. That’s totally clear.
This is so prevalent. This is so wide spread, this child abuse by Jimmy Savile and his cohorts that it’s clear everyone is covering for everyone.
I call upon the English people to really take to the streets and also to the rest of the world.
This is what Britain has to offer you from the BBC, from the NHS and the police and the government.
Don’t think at all the West and particularly Britain has anything sparkly or anything to your benefit. The people of Latin America, Africa and Asia who are watching, this is the nature of British society and this is the way that all the senior institutions of Britain are covering up for each other. Recognize the reality for what it is, my dear peoples.
Press TV: You talk about how people should come out and protest but, really, is that going to be effective? Shouldn’t we get some of these institutions involved in order for there to be some prosecutions?
It’s not right for people to have suffered in the hundreds let alone the cover-ups that are involved here, let alone the state-owned BBC being involved, etcetera. How do you see this moving forward, if this was up to you? How would you move forward with this?
Chandan: Well, we’ve already heard the gentleman from New York explain himself very clearly. It’s all-boys network.
Listen, there are so many other issues that are taboo and never discussed that pertains to the sexual kind of deterioration health of our young people. We have a social phenomenon emerging of basically sexual abuse of many young women who go through an initiation process in joining street gangs in their localities. We have a very unhealthy sexualization of childhood in Britain.
We have hard-core pornography which has become normalized and which is the primary source of - it’s not sex education but what passes as sex education for our young people.
There are so many problems that are never discussed. No one is addressing and really I call upon the young people in this country to get over your schisms, get over the disunity, get over the divide and rule tactics of the powers that be. Really, the onus is on you to take the situation at hand.
I guarantee you what’s happening with the Levinson’s scandal in terms of the police, the media corruption, with this new scandal that’s coming out, if we don’t have a social protest movement dealing with this, you know what’s going to happen?
It’s going to blow up again much bigger than August 2011 in the so-called riots which I call the uprising of the black and poor. It’s going to blow up even bigger and it’s going to make August 2011 look like child’s play. Can we blame young people for coming out like that? I’m not sure that we can.
PressTV - ?Britain has institutionalized pedophilia, child abuse?
Impunity culture fuels pedophilia across Britain: Ian Williams
Source: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/01/12/283215/impunity-guilty-of-saviles-crimes/
