Breaking news: Cases against Baloch leaders to be withdrawn: Rehman Malik

[SQ8]

There can never be peace with your opponent if you show weakness and eagerness.

When you show too much respect and eagerness for peace then peace will be upon your opponents terms.

If your opponents has a pistol then you have to show him an AK47 so he gets the picture that you are not weak and eager that negotiations and peace has to be both sided.

Unfortunately that is not the case with India, best to seal borders close embassy and say world ends after wagah.

We are not doing that .. are we?
In fact.. multiple times peace has been on our terms(the terms for the people of Pakistan..not the Feudals or generals).
And our leadership backstabbed and became the very backstabber we accuse Indians to be.
Our problem is not India, USa, Israel or Timbuktoo.
its us.. Pakistanis are the problem..we need to fix ourselves.. fix our characters..
Then can we take on the world.
Currently we are soo busy taking on each other that the rest of the world can exploit us easily.
The idea is to now make some sort of peace with the world.. fix ourselves..then decide where and when do we wish to assert our interests.

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Let me give you an example of what balls can do;

Ghaznavi and somnaths
ghuri and the rajputs
mugals
abdali and marhattas

See what balls can achieve, a 1000 years of rule and security.

Then you may keep your balls..
since those personlaties had brains that dictated the terms which their guts gave them the courage to do..
Ill tell you what happens to people that thought like you..
65.. 67.. 71.. 73.. 99..
All these times.. brave men.. god fearing men were led by so called "ballsy" people with your exact pattern of thought.. and died in vain.

 

[Areesh]

Fairly easy.. yet difficult steps my young paduwan.
It means accepting a solution on Kashmir such as LOC as IB.
It means accepting Indian support for the Mayor of Kabul.
It means allowing free trade between the two nation..
etc.. etc.

Point number 1. Can't be accepted. Status quo is better.
Point number 2. Debatable. Depends who is the mayor of Kabul.
Point number 3. Acceptable. No problem with it.

 

[jackyy]

Point number 1. Can't be accepted. Status quo is better.
Point number 2. Debatable. Depends who is the mayor of Kabul.
Point number 3. Acceptable. No problem with it.

i agree with you on point one and prefer to shut down the borders .

 

[Safriz]

hyrbyair marri was live on ARY news..
He says he didn't believe in any cases against him because he doesn't believe in Pakistan and if somebody wants to talk to him he will only speak as representative of free Baluchistan and not under Pakistani Jurisdiction..

Now all those drumming conversation and talks with Baluch weirdos should read this..
How can you talk to such open traitor and arrogant person..
Now its a war against separatist..and they deserve to be killed not talked to.

 

[SQ8]

hyrbyair marri was live on ARY news..
He says he didn't believe in any cases against him because he doesn't believe in Pakistan and if somebody wants to talk to him he will only speak as representative of free Baluchistan and not under Pakistani Jurisdiction..

Now all those drumming conversation and talks with Baluch weirdos should read this..
How can you talk to such open traitor and arrogant person..
Now its a war against separatist..and they deserve to be killed not talked to.

The question is not of talking.. the question is of reducing importance.
Wean the people away.. and reduce his influence.
Only possible when he has no financial or political backing from overseas.

 

[Safriz]

The question is not of talking.. the question is of reducing importance.
Wean the people away.. and reduce his influence.
Only possible when he has no financial or political backing from overseas.

Exactly...Bugtys abroad should be dealt with by cutting off their communication with Pakistan,and all their sympathizers in Government of Baluchistan should be got rid of...

They are proud of Sui gas...stop all mining of Gas from Baluchistan and Bring in Ships of gas from abroad...
Under current situation importing gas by sea may cost less than Baluch gas and alll the political hot gas these separatists create.

 

[RazPaK]

I agree with nearly everything Yusafzoi said.

 

[Safriz]

I agree with nearly everything Yusafzoi said.

Only two tribes in Baluchistan have problem The Bugti and Murree..
Both are originally Immigrants from Middle east and central Asia,who settled in their current location in 8th century AD and later..
The original Baluch tribes are the rest of the tribes all 250 of them..who have no problem with continuing to be a part of Pakistan.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

Your solutions would have made sense ten years ago.. when the Baloch intellectual leadership was still seperate from their feudal leaders.
Now the both are intertwined..and all sorts of concessions and development alone will not change the mind of the Baloch.
The same happened with Mujib-ur-Rehman.. many believe he was not convinced of independence..but he was riding the wild wagon that was Mukti Bahni and an emotionally charged people led by their different firebrand representatives.
The same is happening here.
As much as it hurts our ego..we need to pacify the current Baloch leadership in parallel with development in order to forge a lasting solution. And if that pacification requires the cutting off support then we must go to all lengths to do so.

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Why?
are you racist? hmm.. Pukhtoonism? Hmm?
only the two P's should dominate Pakistan?
This sort of mentality is why Pakistan is where it is..
I may not leave my country.. but such an attitude will not leave a country behind for anybody.

really? why are Punjabis blamed for everything? 60% Pakistanis are from Punjab that is why Punjab needs more resources.

 

[Safriz]

Democracy doesnt work in Pakistan thats now an established fact...
In all the previous marshal laws these cowards run to wards the mountains and hide....Then a so called democracy comes,they descent from their caves start kidnapping and killing government employees and when fought back...they cry injustice.
Pakistan if has to survive will need either a Politician as clever as fox.....or or a dictator like Joseph Stalin..
Anything in between wont work...

 

[Armstrong]

really? why are Punjabis blamed for everything? 60% Pakistanis are from Punjab that is why Punjab needs more resources.

Because when they can't figure out how come millions of sindhis, baloch, pathans, in my case - kashmiris, urdu-speakers and a whole host of other ethnicities can live in peace in Punjab, without anyone hollering about their rights being trampled or their resources exploited or their language and culture under threat, its easier to blame the Punjabi 'Jo sab khaa jataa hai', instead of getting their f**king acts together themselves.

 

[iPhone]

Democracy doesnt work in Pakistan thats now an established fact...
In all the previous marshal laws these cowards run to wards the mountains and hide....Then a so called democracy comes,they descent from their caves start kidnapping and killing government employees and when fought back...they cry injustice.
Pakistan if has to survive will need either a Politician as clever as fox.....or or a dictator like Joseph Stalin..
Anything in between wont work...

no, my friend. even with democracy these people can be dealt with iron fist. you mentioned during dictatorship they run into mountains and come back during democratic gov't. well, that my friend is the time to fight them. you talk to them and meet most of their demands short of succession. and when it appears all talks are futile you take the fight to them.

 

[rubyjackass]

He just won a lottery to come to politics... Once PPP looses next election, he will either end up moving out of the country or going back to his old job in Sialkot as a barber...

Malik said he would welcome the Baloch leaders back to Pakistan personally.

Rehman Malik sounds like Laloo prasad Yadav of Pakistan, in a suit. He needs a press secretary very badly. While their women and children are getting killed, Rehman Malik is inviting Baloch leaders to Pakistan, who make even better targets for killing.

 

[Safriz]

Another Possible solution is to divide Baluchistan in smaller Provinces...
There are Barahwi speaking Baluch..Pushto speakers and Balochi speakers...
Same as Saraiki speakers can have their province based on Language..
Baluchistan can easily be divided in Three parts.....A possible fourth part can be the Province of Gawadar..They are a Different race,different people from the rest of Baluchistan and will be happy to get their own Province.....
Baluchistan is too large to be sustained a s single province and that has been in my opinion the root of the Problem...
That way BLA's claim on a very large chunk of Pakistan can be dealt with

 

[Zarvan]

He is just trying to make these traitors happy but it will be of no use what Pakistan needs to do is start development in Baluchistan and also start establishing pakhtoons and other nations there to reduce Baloch Majority