BREAKING! Mars Orbiter Put In Orbit Successfully!!
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Why India's Mars mission is so cheap - and thrilling
India's space programme has succeeded at the first attempt where others have failed - by sending an operational mission to Mars.
The Mangalyaan satellite was confirmed to be in orbit shortly after 0800, Indian time. It is, without doubt, a considerable achievement.
This is a mission that has been budgeted at 4.5bn rupees ($74m), which, by Western standards, is staggeringly cheap.
The American Maven orbiter that arrived at the Red Planet on Monday is costing almost 10 times as much.
Back in June, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi even quipped that India's real-life Martian adventure was costing less than the make-believe Hollywood film Gravity.
Even Bollywood sci-fi movies like Ra.One cost a good chunk of what it has taken to get Mangalyaan to Mars.
India's Mars orbiter
$74m
Cost of India's Mangalyaan mission
$671m
Cost of Nasa's Maven Mars mission
MANJUNATH KIRAN/AFP
So how has India done it? For sure, people costs are less in this populous nation, and the scientists and engineers working on any space mission are always the largest part of the ticket price.
Home-grown components and technologies have also been prioritised over expensive foreign imports.
But, in addition, India has been careful to do things simply.
Narendra Modi said the country had achieved the "near impossible"
"They've kept it small. The payload weighs only about 15kg. Compare that with the complexity in the payload in Maven and that will explain a lot about the cost," says Britain's Prof Andrew Coates, who will be a principal investigator on Europe's Mars rover in 2018.
"Of course, that reduced complexity suggests it won't be as scientifically capable, but India has been smart in targeting some really important areas that will complement what others are doing."
Mangalyaan has gone equipped with an instrument that will try to measure methane in the atmosphere.
This is one of the hottest topics in Mars research right now, following previous, tantalising observations of the gas.
Earth's atmosphere contains billions of tonnes of methane, the vast majority of it coming from microbes, such as the organisms found in the digestive tracts of animals.
The speculation has been that some methane-producing bugs, or methanogens, could perhaps exist on Mars if they lived underground, away from the planet's harsh surface conditions.
Mangalyaan will measure methane in the Martian atmosphere - a crucial question
It is a fascinating prospect.
So, even though Mangalyaan has a small payload, it will actually address some of the biggest questions at the Red Planet.
Western scientists are excited also to have the Indian probe on station.
Its measurements of other atmospheric components will dovetail very nicely with Maven and the observations being made by Europe's Mars Express. "It means we'll be getting three-point measurements, which is tremendous," says Prof Coates.
This will enable researchers to better understand how the planet lost the bulk of its atmosphere billions of years ago, and determine what sort of climate it could once have had, and whether or not it was conducive to life.
I have read a lot about the criticism of Mangalyaan and India's space programme.
There's an assumption among many, I guess, that space activity is somehow a plaything best left to wealthy industrial countries; that it can have no value to developing nations.
Students in Chennai saluted the country's space scientists
The money would be better spent on healthcare and improved sanitation, so the argument goes.
But what this position often overlooks is that investment in science and technology builds capability and capacity, and develops the sort of people who benefit the economy and society more widely.
Space activity is also a wealth generator. Some of the stuff we do up there pays for stuff down here.
The industrialised nations know it; that's one of the reasons they invest so heavily in space activity.
Consider just the UK. It has dramatically increased its spending on space in recent years.
The government has even identified satellites as being one of the "eight great technologies" that can help rebalance the UK economy and drive it forward.
India wants a part of this action, too, and in Mangalyaan and its other satellite and rocket programmes, the nation is putting itself into a strong position in international markets for space products and services.
Science and technology builds capability and capacity, and inspires the next generation
Article written by Jonathan AmosJonathan AmosScience correspondent
BBC News - Why India's Mars mission is so cheap - and thrilling
India's space programme has succeeded at the first attempt where others have failed - by sending an operational mission to Mars.
The Mangalyaan satellite was confirmed to be in orbit shortly after 0800, Indian time. It is, without doubt, a considerable achievement.
This is a mission that has been budgeted at 4.5bn rupees ($74m), which, by Western standards, is staggeringly cheap.
The American Maven orbiter that arrived at the Red Planet on Monday is costing almost 10 times as much.
Back in June, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi even quipped that India's real-life Martian adventure was costing less than the make-believe Hollywood film Gravity.
Even Bollywood sci-fi movies like Ra.One cost a good chunk of what it has taken to get Mangalyaan to Mars.
India's Mars orbiter
$74m
Cost of India's Mangalyaan mission
$671m
Cost of Nasa's Maven Mars mission
- Launched on 5 Nov 2013
- Weighs 1,350kg
- Closest point to Mars 366km
MANJUNATH KIRAN/AFP
So how has India done it? For sure, people costs are less in this populous nation, and the scientists and engineers working on any space mission are always the largest part of the ticket price.
Home-grown components and technologies have also been prioritised over expensive foreign imports.
But, in addition, India has been careful to do things simply.
"They've kept it small. The payload weighs only about 15kg. Compare that with the complexity in the payload in Maven and that will explain a lot about the cost," says Britain's Prof Andrew Coates, who will be a principal investigator on Europe's Mars rover in 2018.
"Of course, that reduced complexity suggests it won't be as scientifically capable, but India has been smart in targeting some really important areas that will complement what others are doing."
Mangalyaan has gone equipped with an instrument that will try to measure methane in the atmosphere.
This is one of the hottest topics in Mars research right now, following previous, tantalising observations of the gas.
Earth's atmosphere contains billions of tonnes of methane, the vast majority of it coming from microbes, such as the organisms found in the digestive tracts of animals.
The speculation has been that some methane-producing bugs, or methanogens, could perhaps exist on Mars if they lived underground, away from the planet's harsh surface conditions.
It is a fascinating prospect.
So, even though Mangalyaan has a small payload, it will actually address some of the biggest questions at the Red Planet.
Western scientists are excited also to have the Indian probe on station.
Its measurements of other atmospheric components will dovetail very nicely with Maven and the observations being made by Europe's Mars Express. "It means we'll be getting three-point measurements, which is tremendous," says Prof Coates.
This will enable researchers to better understand how the planet lost the bulk of its atmosphere billions of years ago, and determine what sort of climate it could once have had, and whether or not it was conducive to life.
I have read a lot about the criticism of Mangalyaan and India's space programme.
There's an assumption among many, I guess, that space activity is somehow a plaything best left to wealthy industrial countries; that it can have no value to developing nations.
The money would be better spent on healthcare and improved sanitation, so the argument goes.
But what this position often overlooks is that investment in science and technology builds capability and capacity, and develops the sort of people who benefit the economy and society more widely.
Space activity is also a wealth generator. Some of the stuff we do up there pays for stuff down here.
The industrialised nations know it; that's one of the reasons they invest so heavily in space activity.
Consider just the UK. It has dramatically increased its spending on space in recent years.
The government has even identified satellites as being one of the "eight great technologies" that can help rebalance the UK economy and drive it forward.
India wants a part of this action, too, and in Mangalyaan and its other satellite and rocket programmes, the nation is putting itself into a strong position in international markets for space products and services.
Article written by Jonathan AmosJonathan AmosScience correspondentBBC News - Why India's Mars mission is so cheap - and thrilling
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Agreed sir, lets hope that peace prevail in the region one day so every body can be benefited from this.
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India is going on good but still they have to make a lot of ground to be in list of potential player and I hope they will make it because they are dedicated people and they want to be in race. China no doubt is standing side by side to United States if they talk about about economy but they will have to prove them from technology point of view. United States is still around as a super power but they should know that competition is fierce and Asian Giants are after them. Beautiful People from a beautiful country called Pakistan and they will have to understand that our priorities lies some where else and not in Dharna. You have everything from brain to emotions, patriotism but please for God sake put it in something constructive.
At last Congratulations India once again
At last Congratulations India once again
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Thanks. It's a start. We are hopeful that this achievement coupled with other ISRO's successful launches will help generate a healthy flow of money (by grabbing a portion of the international business) required for future missions.
Having said that, personally I believe this will motivate a lot of young Indians out there to pursue theoretical and experimental physics and astrophysics which will immensely help our nation in the long run.
If MOM could discover something that is yet to be discovered, that will be the icing on the cake, however.
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You made us proud, says autodriver who refused fare from ISRO scientist
You made us proud, says autodriver who refused fare from ISRO scientist
You made us proud, says autodriver who refused fare from ISRO scientist
NASA’s Maven spacecraft arrived at the Mars late on Sunday night (September 21) before India's mission arrived on Mars (September 23)
NASA, ISRO to Share Martian Data
By Express News Service
Published: 24th September 2014 06:04 AM
View attachment 81663
BANGALORE: India’s maiden mission to Mars, the Mangalyaan, has received active cooperation from the American space agency NASA.
This is part of the civil space co-operation agreement between India and the US, which also concerns joint development of new scientific products.
According to officials, the idea of a Joint Working Group (JWG) on Mars is beneficial to both sides as the orbiters-The Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) and Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM) can share their findings. MAVEN, which will help NASA understand how Mars changed from a warm planet to a cold wasteland, is not equipped to study methane sources.
This is however a significant payload on MOM. “There will be a meeting of the scientific community post the insertion of MOM into orbit on Wednesday. Our orbiter can complement MAVEN and there will be no clash as such between the two,” ISRO secretary, Koteswara Rao had said recently. However, there has been no formal announcement of a JWG yet and it is expected to be announced during the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the US this week.
Another opportunity for NASA and ISRO to work together will be when the comet Siding Spring passes within a distance of 1,32,000 km from Mars on October 19. “Three out of the five payloads on MOM can be used to observe the comet in October,” Rao said.
NASA, ISRO to Share Martian Data -The New Indian Express
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Nasa, Isro in talks for jointly developing satellite for first time
Jul 29, 2013, 07.42PM IST
BANGALORE: US space agency Nasa and India's premier space agency Isro are in talks for jointly building a satellite for the first time.
"Now, there is a feasibility study going on whether we can jointly make a satellite, with synthetic aperture radar (SAR) payloads working on two frequency bands - L-band and S-band", Chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) K Radhakrishnan told PTI here.
Charles F Bolden Jr, Administrator of National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa) of United States, visited the Space Applications Centre (SAC) of Isro in Ahmedabad on June 25.
He had a meeting with Radhakrishnan, also Secretary, Department of Space, along with senior officials of Isro to discuss the ongoing cooperative activities between ISRO and NASA and also the potential areas of future cooperation.
"...the joint satellite mission is an important step. It's not making an instrument and plugging it actually. It's working together. That's what we are discussing. It (working together) should happen in the next few months", Radhakrishnan said.
"Both organisations are coming together and saying let's develop it together...use your strength, use my strength. That's a good way of working", he said.
"It (the proposed satellite) is interesting from scientific point of view, it's interesting from normal resource management point of view," he said.
Radhakrishnan said Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory would make the radar system "if it (in case of Nasa, Isro deciding to work together on the mission) is getting through".
On Isro's role, he said, "We will be working together. Some will be built by us, some will be built by them. So, this (work-sharing) has to be finalised", adding, data generated by the mission would be used by both Isro and Nasa.
Radhakrishnan hinted at the possibility of Isro making the satellite for the joint mission, with launch from Indian soil.
In this context, he pointed to the Indo-French joint satellite missions Megha-Tropiques and Saral, with Paris opting for Indian satellites for the ventures with 'desi' rockets.
India's 2008 Chandrayaan-1 mission had two instruments from USA.
Mini Synthetic Aperture Radar (MiniSAR) was from Johns Hopkins University's Applied Physics Laboratory and Naval Air Warfare Centre, USA through Nasa. MiniSAR was mainly intended for detecting water ice in the permanently shadowed regions of the lunar poles up to a depth of a few meters.
Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3), an imaging spectrometer from Brown University and JPL through Nasa, was intended to assess and map lunar mineral resources at high spatial and spectral resolution.
Nasa, Isro in talks for jointly developing satellite for first time - The Times of India
NASA, ISRO to Share Martian Data
By Express News Service
Published: 24th September 2014 06:04 AM
View attachment 81663
BANGALORE: India’s maiden mission to Mars, the Mangalyaan, has received active cooperation from the American space agency NASA.
This is part of the civil space co-operation agreement between India and the US, which also concerns joint development of new scientific products.
According to officials, the idea of a Joint Working Group (JWG) on Mars is beneficial to both sides as the orbiters-The Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) and Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM) can share their findings. MAVEN, which will help NASA understand how Mars changed from a warm planet to a cold wasteland, is not equipped to study methane sources.
This is however a significant payload on MOM. “There will be a meeting of the scientific community post the insertion of MOM into orbit on Wednesday. Our orbiter can complement MAVEN and there will be no clash as such between the two,” ISRO secretary, Koteswara Rao had said recently. However, there has been no formal announcement of a JWG yet and it is expected to be announced during the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the US this week.
Another opportunity for NASA and ISRO to work together will be when the comet Siding Spring passes within a distance of 1,32,000 km from Mars on October 19. “Three out of the five payloads on MOM can be used to observe the comet in October,” Rao said.
NASA, ISRO to Share Martian Data -The New Indian Express
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Nasa, Isro in talks for jointly developing satellite for first time
Jul 29, 2013, 07.42PM IST
BANGALORE: US space agency Nasa and India's premier space agency Isro are in talks for jointly building a satellite for the first time.
"Now, there is a feasibility study going on whether we can jointly make a satellite, with synthetic aperture radar (SAR) payloads working on two frequency bands - L-band and S-band", Chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) K Radhakrishnan told PTI here.
Charles F Bolden Jr, Administrator of National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa) of United States, visited the Space Applications Centre (SAC) of Isro in Ahmedabad on June 25.
He had a meeting with Radhakrishnan, also Secretary, Department of Space, along with senior officials of Isro to discuss the ongoing cooperative activities between ISRO and NASA and also the potential areas of future cooperation.
"...the joint satellite mission is an important step. It's not making an instrument and plugging it actually. It's working together. That's what we are discussing. It (working together) should happen in the next few months", Radhakrishnan said.
"Both organisations are coming together and saying let's develop it together...use your strength, use my strength. That's a good way of working", he said.
"It (the proposed satellite) is interesting from scientific point of view, it's interesting from normal resource management point of view," he said.
Radhakrishnan said Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory would make the radar system "if it (in case of Nasa, Isro deciding to work together on the mission) is getting through".
On Isro's role, he said, "We will be working together. Some will be built by us, some will be built by them. So, this (work-sharing) has to be finalised", adding, data generated by the mission would be used by both Isro and Nasa.
Radhakrishnan hinted at the possibility of Isro making the satellite for the joint mission, with launch from Indian soil.
In this context, he pointed to the Indo-French joint satellite missions Megha-Tropiques and Saral, with Paris opting for Indian satellites for the ventures with 'desi' rockets.
India's 2008 Chandrayaan-1 mission had two instruments from USA.
Mini Synthetic Aperture Radar (MiniSAR) was from Johns Hopkins University's Applied Physics Laboratory and Naval Air Warfare Centre, USA through Nasa. MiniSAR was mainly intended for detecting water ice in the permanently shadowed regions of the lunar poles up to a depth of a few meters.
Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3), an imaging spectrometer from Brown University and JPL through Nasa, was intended to assess and map lunar mineral resources at high spatial and spectral resolution.
Nasa, Isro in talks for jointly developing satellite for first time - The Times of India
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Really??,becasue i have seen you moderating the forum even at like 1 or 2 am in night since last few days.
Ok this one was super hilarious
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Look at the troll attempts so far from Chinese members in this thread alone and compare it with other nationalities! Also, it is not about this thread alone -- just look at their arrogance in threads involving India, bringing in toilets into every discussion about India, talking about 1962 war, bringing in how PLA can flatten New Delhi with only their Artillery rockets, talking about their widening economic edge over India etc etc. I would even bet that you can actually count sane Chinese posters with fingers of just one hand!
I know that this forum is not representative of entire Chinese population but I think they are some of the biggest hypocrites you can come across. They almost always talk about "talking less and doing more", but in reality they are some of the biggest braggarts!!!
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Betaji, I understand that you are butthurt however the article you are posting is in reference to a future project that has not yet been carried out. Learn to read the articles you post and hide your jealousy better.NASA’s Maven spacecraft arrived at the Mars late on Sunday night (September 21) before India's mission arrived on Mars (September 23)
NASA, ISRO to Share Martian Data
By Express News Service
Published: 24th September 2014 06:04 AM
View attachment 81663
BANGALORE: India’s maiden mission to Mars, the Mangalyaan, has received active cooperation from the American space agency NASA.
This is part of the civil space co-operation agreement between India and the US, which also concerns joint development of new scientific products.
According to officials, the idea of a Joint Working Group (JWG) on Mars is beneficial to both sides as the orbiters-The Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution (MAVEN) and Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM) can share their findings. MAVEN, which will help NASA understand how Mars changed from a warm planet to a cold wasteland, is not equipped to study methane sources.
This is however a significant payload on MOM. “There will be a meeting of the scientific community post the insertion of MOM into orbit on Wednesday. Our orbiter can complement MAVEN and there will be no clash as such between the two,” ISRO secretary, Koteswara Rao had said recently. However, there has been no formal announcement of a JWG yet and it is expected to be announced during the visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the US this week.
Another opportunity for NASA and ISRO to work together will be when the comet Siding Spring passes within a distance of 1,32,000 km from Mars on October 19. “Three out of the five payloads on MOM can be used to observe the comet in October,” Rao said.
NASA, ISRO to Share Martian Data -The New Indian Express
----------------------------------
Nasa, Isro in talks for jointly developing satellite for first time
Jul 29, 2013, 07.42PM IST
BANGALORE: US space agency Nasa and India's premier space agency Isro are in talks for jointly building a satellite for the first time.
"Now, there is a feasibility study going on whether we can jointly make a satellite, with synthetic aperture radar (SAR) payloads working on two frequency bands - L-band and S-band", Chairman of Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) K Radhakrishnan told PTI here.
Charles F Bolden Jr, Administrator of National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa) of United States, visited the Space Applications Centre (SAC) of Isro in Ahmedabad on June 25.
He had a meeting with Radhakrishnan, also Secretary, Department of Space, along with senior officials of Isro to discuss the ongoing cooperative activities between ISRO and NASA and also the potential areas of future cooperation.
"...the joint satellite mission is an important step. It's not making an instrument and plugging it actually. It's working together. That's what we are discussing. It (working together) should happen in the next few months", Radhakrishnan said.
"Both organisations are coming together and saying let's develop it together...use your strength, use my strength. That's a good way of working", he said.
"It (the proposed satellite) is interesting from scientific point of view, it's interesting from normal resource management point of view," he said.
Radhakrishnan said Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory would make the radar system "if it (in case of Nasa, Isro deciding to work together on the mission) is getting through".
On Isro's role, he said, "We will be working together. Some will be built by us, some will be built by them. So, this (work-sharing) has to be finalised", adding, data generated by the mission would be used by both Isro and Nasa.
Radhakrishnan hinted at the possibility of Isro making the satellite for the joint mission, with launch from Indian soil.
In this context, he pointed to the Indo-French joint satellite missions Megha-Tropiques and Saral, with Paris opting for Indian satellites for the ventures with 'desi' rockets.
India's 2008 Chandrayaan-1 mission had two instruments from USA.
Mini Synthetic Aperture Radar (MiniSAR) was from Johns Hopkins University's Applied Physics Laboratory and Naval Air Warfare Centre, USA through Nasa. MiniSAR was mainly intended for detecting water ice in the permanently shadowed regions of the lunar poles up to a depth of a few meters.
Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3), an imaging spectrometer from Brown University and JPL through Nasa, was intended to assess and map lunar mineral resources at high spatial and spectral resolution.
Nasa, Isro in talks for jointly developing satellite for first time - The Times of India
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Betaji, I understand that you are butthurt however the article you are posting is in reference to a future project that has not yet been carried out. Learn to read the articles you post and hide your jealousy better.
nailed the idiot bro..
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Billoo wrote that?
While his grand-father bhutto wanted his country-men to eat grass and expel uranium pellets to make atmi-bums!
Ajeeb family hai yeh........
There is strong IQ contest b/w Papu and Bilu
@isro2222 Did you or your guru ji spiritually flied with that rocket and put it in the correct orbit ?
Really??,becasue i have seen you moderating the forum even at like 1 or 2 am in night since last few days.
Ok this one was super hilarious
Engineers don't sleep at night
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South Indians are not called Mallus. South India is not a single entity. Its a huge landmass with different states and people.
Only Keralites(people from Kerala) are called Mallus. And yes, high number of Mallus in senior positions of ISRO. And again, yes, Kerala has one of the highest literacy rates in India.
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