Brahmos working on a reduced size Brahmos Mini version for Rafale & mig 29k

[DrSomnath999]

Brahmos Aerospace gave Navy Recognition an update on the status of Brahmos Mini during INDODEFENCE 2012, the Tri-service defence exhibition currently being held in Jakarta. While the mini version will be significantly reduced in size, the Indian-Russian joint venture is focusing on retaining the same speed, range and overall performance as the original, larger missile.

While the regular Brahmos missile already equips Indian Army and Indian Navy, the first drop tests from a SU-30MKI will occur in the next 5 to 6 months. Integration work on the platform has already occured for quite some time now in India with the participation of HAL, Sukhoi and the Indian MOD.

However Brahmos Aerospace has the feeling that with a smaller missile, it will be able to be present on many platforms. The company's first focus will be the integration of the future Brahmos mini on future Indian platforms such as the Rafale (winner of MMRCA) and Mig-29K of Indian navy.

Early work on Brahmos Mini is aimed at reducing many systems of the original missile, and the target weight for the "mini" version is 1.5 tons while retaining the original speed (Mach 2.8) and range 290 Km. First live tests could be conducted in about 2 years while subsystems trials are currently being conducted.

he first platform to be integrated with Brahmos Mini will be of Russian origin, possible the Mig-29K of the Indian Navy. Brahmos Mini will be capable of withstanding aircraft carrier deck landings as the heavier, 2.5 tons missile already withstands all sorts of stress when launched from the various existing launchers.

While no talks have occured yet between Brahmos Aerospace and Dassault Aviation they plan to start contacts once the first missile tests have occured.

Regarding weapon loads, the Indian-Russian Joint Venture believes that after the required development and testing, both Mig-29K and Rafale should be able to carry between 1 and 3 Brahmos Mini.

On a larger scale, Brahmos Aerospace is confident that Brahmos Mini will open a huge potential market for the company, with specifications that very few competitors will be able to match.

Finally, regarding its presence at Indo Defence, Brahmos Aerospace told us that a lot of countries from the area have expressed interest for its land attack and anti-ship missile.

Brahmos Aerospace working on a reduced size "Brahmos Mini" version for Rafale and Mig-29K

Well great news if that happens in future

 

[Death Rattle]

I am sure one day even the HAL Tejas will be carrying the Brahmos.

 

[keerthan]

Definitely ah good development Will give our fighter planes great fire power.
Rafale with 3 mini-brahmos would be a awesome sight

 

[DrSomnath999]

well

a short highlight of rafale's devastating fire power

1)Meteor: world's 1st ramjet bvraam missile

2)MICA IR : one of world's longest range IR guided missiles

3)SAGEM hammer: one of world's finest precission guided missile abilty to be launched with the help of SPECTRA proven in libya

4)SCALP: one of world's stealthiest cruise missile

5) ASMPA: nuclear capable supersonic cruise missile

it would add another feather in rafale's cap if it gets armed with BRAHMOS one of world's fastest supersonic cruise missile

& that's not all this list would defintelty increase in size in future

 

[tvsram1992]

SCALP would be the better option for Indian MRCA .

 

[Gessler]

SCALP would be the better option for Indian MRCA .

SCALP/Storm Shadow is not designed for Anti-Ship role. Only BrahMos-Mini
(otherwise known as BrahMos-III) can do that with a speed of >3 Mach and range
>300km weighing only 1500kg.

Even by the time Rafale is inducted, India will have its own equivalent of the SCALP and ASMPA - The LRCM.

LRCM will have a range of 600+km and top speed of Mach 2.6 and can be air-launched. I expect a test of LRCM from Mirage 2000-5/Su-30MKI in 2014-2015. Powered by an indigenous RAMJET engine most probably derived from the PJ10's.

The naval LCA can carry 2 x KH-35E "Switchblade" ASCMs presently, as can MiG-29K. Once the
PJ10-3 becomes available, we can gradually begin phasing out the Kh-35E from Indian service.

Rafales engaged in maritime strike roles are best equipped with PJ10-3 rather than any other ASCM.

 

[Tshering22]

But won't that further reduce to range?

I don't know guys, but we shouldn't miniaturize BrahMos so much that it ends up becoming an A2G missile.

It'd be an amazing platform if we could modify the C-130 structure to use the full version BrahMos from pylons under the Hercs.

Something like a super-BrahMos carrier.

 

[Abingdonboy]

But won't that further reduce to range?

Apparently not:

the "mini" version is 1.5 tons while retaining the original speed (Mach 2.8) and range 290 Km

But it strikes me as odd that for less wieght the "mini" Bhramos can do everything the orginal one can. So maybe this is just proof the original Bhramos' actual range is far greater than the company makes out.

 

[Hobo1]

This news certainly made my day.

 

[jha]

Apparently not:



But it strikes me as odd that for less wieght the "mini" Bhramos can do everything the orginal one can. So maybe this is just proof the original Bhramos' actual range is far greater than the company makes out.

Range will be atleast 300 Km since it will be launched by an aircraft and that will make up for the less fuel..
And actual range is actually far greater than 290 Km..

 

[timetravel]

Apparently not:



But it strikes me as odd that for less wieght the "mini" Bhramos can do everything the orginal one can. So maybe this is just proof the original Bhramos' actual range is far greater than the company makes out.

Brahmos is a 1000-1500 kms missile... its highly secretive and under reported..

 

[tvsram1992]

SCALP/Storm Shadow is not designed for Anti-Ship role. Only BrahMos-Mini
(otherwise known as BrahMos-III) can do that with a speed of >3 Mach and range
>300km weighing only 1500kg.

Even by the time Rafale is inducted, India will have its own equivalent of the SCALP and ASMPA - The LRCM.

LRCM will have a range of 600+km and top speed of Mach 2.6 and can be air-launched. I expect a test of LRCM from Mirage 2000-5/Su-30MKI in 2014-2015. Powered by an indigenous RAMJET engine most probably derived from the PJ10's.

The naval LCA can carry 2 x KH-35E "Switchblade" ASCMs presently, as can MiG-29K. Once the
PJ10-3 becomes available, we can gradually begin phasing out the Kh-35E from Indian service.

Rafales engaged in maritime strike roles are best equipped with PJ10-3 rather than any other ASCM.

Mig29Ks and Rafales are designed for strike roles . If we can have Rafale-M we can expect anti ship version of Scalp . Brahmos III is not mini Brahmos as it will be 2500kg .
No by the time of Rafale induction , we would just have prototypes of LRCM . Considering Indian speed in induction LRCM wouldnt be seen operational before 2025 . Air Version of Nirbhay would be long range equivalent of Scalp where as LRCM would be long range equivalent of Brahmos . The former has stealth , the latter has speed . I seriously believe Naval Tejas is point defense fighter fighter and wont carry Brahmos Mini .

 

[sexy gun]

Brahmos is a 1000-1500 kms missile... its highly secretive and under reported..

so u over reporting it to bring the balance ?

 

[madooxno9]

On 6 April 2011, it was reported that a AASM missile fired from a Dassault Rafale was used to destroy a Libyan tank at a range of 55 km

that's a ^^^ good one

 

[Bratva]

well

a short highlight of rafale's devastating fire power

1)Meteor: world's 1st ramjet bvraam missile

2)MICA IR : one of world's longest range IR guided missiles

3)SAGEM hammer: one of world's finest precission guided missile abilty to be launched with the help of SPECTRA proven in libya

4)SCALP: one of world's stealthiest cruise missile

5) ASMPA: nuclear capable supersonic cruise missile

it would add another feather in rafale's cap if it gets armed with BRAHMOS one of world's fastest supersonic cruise missile

& that's not all this list would defintelty increase in size in future

Proof for your claim?