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BOOKSHELF | By Isaac Chotiner

An Army With A Country

Pakistan at the Crossroads

Edited by Christophe Jaffrelot

(Columbia, 346 pages, $60)

The famous quote about Prussia—that it was not a country with an army but an army with a country—has been used to describe any number of states. Turkey and Argentina, two countries where the military has taken an oh-so-generous role in governing, leap to mind.

Pakistan has a distinct version of this familiar problem. It has a military that rotates between exerting direct control via coups (1958, 1977 and 1999) and indirect control through its far-reaching influence over domestic and especially foreign policy. It is this indirect control that prevails in Pakistan today, notwithstanding the presence of a democratically elected legislature and prime minister.

Yet despite the military’s role in everything from crushing political dissent to dominating various sectors of the economy, Pakistan is a country with an army that is, well, not very effective. When was the last time that the Pakistani armed forces were admired for anything tangible? The military has lost every war it has ever fought; it has been humiliated time and again by its archenemy, India; and it was even responsible for the catastrophe of 1971, when Pakistan lost more than half its population after the country’s eastern wing seceded and became Bangladesh amid horrific war crimes committed by those same armed forces. The real question is thus how the military has attained primacy in a country where it has been responsible for one disaster after another. That is the tacit question underlying “Pakistan at the Crossroads,” a thorough and intelligent collection of essays on modern-day Pakistan edited by Christophe Jaffrelot.

Although the contributors touch on everything from Pakistan- China relations to the current functioning (such as it is) of the country’s electoral system, the overarching theme running through the book is the way in which military rule has inserted itself into almost every aspect of Pakistan’s existence.

The country was formed in 1947 when the British Indian, Muslim-majority states of Punjab and Bengal were partitioned amid inter-communal violence. The new, Muslim country called Pakistan (meaning “land of the pure” in Urdu) was therefore neither ethnically nor geographically united, with India sitting inconveniently between the country’s two wings. The only other Muslim-majority state in British India, Kashmir, became a source of endless warfare between India and Pakistan. When Kashmir’s (unelected) ruler opted for India after partition, war broke out; today India rules Kashmir with a blatant disregard for human rights.

As Aqil Shah—himself the author of an excellent recent book on Pakistan’s military—writes in his superb chapter on the armed forces, the fight over Kashmir, coupled with Pakistan’s fear of majority-Hindu India, “spurred the ‘militarization’ of the Pakistani state in the early years. . . . As state building and survival became synonymous with the ‘war effort,’ the civilian leadership diverted scarce resources from development to defense and abdicated its responsibility of oversight over the military, thereby allowing the generals a virtual free hand over internal organizational affairs and national security management.” A decade later, in 1958, the military launched its first formal coup, overthrowing a flailing civilian government.

Much of this collection covers the most recent decade of Pakistani history, with less attention paid to the lost wars against India (1947-48 and 1965); the military-led genocide that resulted in the creation of Bangladesh and another lost war against India (1971); and the rise of Zia ul-Haq, an autocrat who overthrew an elected government in 1977 and ruled for over a decade.

After the most recent military dictator, Pervez Musharraf, was forced out in 2008, a civilian government survived its first full five-year term and handover of power, in this case to the country’s current prime minister, Nawaz Sharif. But Mr. Sharif must reckon with a military that still controls all major decision-making, as well as with Imran Khan, the demagogic cricket star who is both a stalking horse for the armed forces and the most popular man in the country.

Mohammad Waseem, whose chapter on political parties ably lays out this recent history, doesn’t address exactly why they have failed to establish themselves as the supreme actors in Pakistani politics. But Mr. Jaffrelot, in his introduction, does have a go at it, and his thesis is arresting: The failure of civilian supremacy is in part a reflection of the willingness of civilians to be co-opted by the military. “Dictators all have had to liberalize their regime after some time and civilians never asked for all the power,” he writes.

It’s true that the military’s popularity has made it difficult for civilians to demand their fair share of control. But several of the dictators written about, such as Yahya Khan and Zia, either didn’t liberalize or did so half-heartedly. Moreover, civilians have never asked for total control because doing so would be futile and dangerous, given the control the military has always exerted over the country.

Still, Mr. Jaffrelot’s conclusion seems undeniably correct: “The return to normalcy of Pakistan domestically implies a normalization of its relations with both its neighbors, India and Afghanistan.” The problem is that the military has long prevented any normalization of relations with India and has long viewed the Taliban (which it helped install in Afghanistan) as a helpful ally, despite the “blowback” this has caused in Pakistan itself: Terrorist groups routinely attack civilians—often religious minorities—and even their onetime military patrons. And, as Avinash Paliwal points out in his dispiriting chapter on Afghanistan-Pakistan relations, Afghanistan’s understandable anger at Pakistani meddling may lead to an increased use of proxies by the former against the latter as a sort of tit-for-tat. It’s hard to see a positive result for the people of either country.

For this reason, the title of Mr. Jaffrelot’s fine volume is misleading. Despite the military’s willingness to belatedly go after (some of) the extremist groups it has long nurtured for its own ends, its raison d’etre remains its own power, and it’s difficult to imagine its leaders allowing for stability in Afghanistan or closer ties with India. Pakistan is less at a “crossroads” than it is humming along the same path it’s been on for decades, albeit with slight adjustments of speed.

Mr. Chotiner is a contributing writer for Slate.

The failure of civil rule in Pakistan, Jaffrelot argues, is a reflection of the willingness of civilians to be dominated by the military.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-army-with-a-country-1471208655
 
Pakistan Armed Forces is the only institution that has made an effort to be an inclusive and all encompassing force that allows Pakistanis of any caste or creed to join the army and be promoted on the basis of merit without any religious, sectarian or ethnic bias. Tell me which other part of the society is so tolerant and respectable in the country then them? Which other so called pillar of the state allows the above mentioned facts? Is the media free from such bias? Does the judiciary not show a biased attitude towards some minority communities? Or is it the politicians that we Pakistanis must look to who can't stop to regularly shower hatred on religious minorities?

Someone tell me why I should not respect the armed forces of Pakistan who are the only ones in this country to accept all its children as Pakistanis while all the others show biases and prejudice? You people will never understand why every Pakistani loves the Armed Forces more than any of the others.
 
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BOOKSHELF | By Isaac Chotiner

An Army With A Country

Pakistan at the Crossroads

Edited by Christophe Jaffrelot

(Columbia, 346 pages, $60)

The famous quote about Prussia—that it was not a country with an army but an army with a country—has been used to describe any number of states. Turkey and Argentina, two countries where the military has taken an oh-so-generous role in governing, leap to mind.

Pakistan has a distinct version of this familiar problem. It has a military that rotates between exerting direct control via coups (1958, 1977 and 1999) and indirect control through its far-reaching influence over domestic and especially foreign policy. It is this indirect control that prevails in Pakistan today, notwithstanding the presence of a democratically elected legislature and prime minister.

Yet despite the military’s role in everything from crushing political dissent to dominating various sectors of the economy, Pakistan is a country with an army that is, well, not very effective. When was the last time that the Pakistani armed forces were admired for anything tangible? The military has lost every war it has ever fought; it has been humiliated time and again by its archenemy, India; and it was even responsible for the catastrophe of 1971, when Pakistan lost more than half its population after the country’s eastern wing seceded and became Bangladesh amid horrific war crimes committed by those same armed forces. The real question is thus how the military has attained primacy in a country where it has been responsible for one disaster after another. That is the tacit question underlying “Pakistan at the Crossroads,” a thorough and intelligent collection of essays on modern-day Pakistan edited by Christophe Jaffrelot.

Although the contributors touch on everything from Pakistan- China relations to the current functioning (such as it is) of the country’s electoral system, the overarching theme running through the book is the way in which military rule has inserted itself into almost every aspect of Pakistan’s existence.

The country was formed in 1947 when the British Indian, Muslim-majority states of Punjab and Bengal were partitioned amid inter-communal violence. The new, Muslim country called Pakistan (meaning “land of the pure” in Urdu) was therefore neither ethnically nor geographically united, with India sitting inconveniently between the country’s two wings. The only other Muslim-majority state in British India, Kashmir, became a source of endless warfare between India and Pakistan. When Kashmir’s (unelected) ruler opted for India after partition, war broke out; today India rules Kashmir with a blatant disregard for human rights.

As Aqil Shah—himself the author of an excellent recent book on Pakistan’s military—writes in his superb chapter on the armed forces, the fight over Kashmir, coupled with Pakistan’s fear of majority-Hindu India, “spurred the ‘militarization’ of the Pakistani state in the early years. . . . As state building and survival became synonymous with the ‘war effort,’ the civilian leadership diverted scarce resources from development to defense and abdicated its responsibility of oversight over the military, thereby allowing the generals a virtual free hand over internal organizational affairs and national security management.” A decade later, in 1958, the military launched its first formal coup, overthrowing a flailing civilian government.

Much of this collection covers the most recent decade of Pakistani history, with less attention paid to the lost wars against India (1947-48 and 1965); the military-led genocide that resulted in the creation of Bangladesh and another lost war against India (1971); and the rise of Zia ul-Haq, an autocrat who overthrew an elected government in 1977 and ruled for over a decade.

After the most recent military dictator, Pervez Musharraf, was forced out in 2008, a civilian government survived its first full five-year term and handover of power, in this case to the country’s current prime minister, Nawaz Sharif. But Mr. Sharif must reckon with a military that still controls all major decision-making, as well as with Imran Khan, the demagogic cricket star who is both a stalking horse for the armed forces and the most popular man in the country.

Mohammad Waseem, whose chapter on political parties ably lays out this recent history, doesn’t address exactly why they have failed to establish themselves as the supreme actors in Pakistani politics. But Mr. Jaffrelot, in his introduction, does have a go at it, and his thesis is arresting: The failure of civilian supremacy is in part a reflection of the willingness of civilians to be co-opted by the military. “Dictators all have had to liberalize their regime after some time and civilians never asked for all the power,” he writes.

It’s true that the military’s popularity has made it difficult for civilians to demand their fair share of control. But several of the dictators written about, such as Yahya Khan and Zia, either didn’t liberalize or did so half-heartedly. Moreover, civilians have never asked for total control because doing so would be futile and dangerous, given the control the military has always exerted over the country.

Still, Mr. Jaffrelot’s conclusion seems undeniably correct: “The return to normalcy of Pakistan domestically implies a normalization of its relations with both its neighbors, India and Afghanistan.” The problem is that the military has long prevented any normalization of relations with India and has long viewed the Taliban (which it helped install in Afghanistan) as a helpful ally, despite the “blowback” this has caused in Pakistan itself: Terrorist groups routinely attack civilians—often religious minorities—and even their onetime military patrons. And, as Avinash Paliwal points out in his dispiriting chapter on Afghanistan-Pakistan relations, Afghanistan’s understandable anger at Pakistani meddling may lead to an increased use of proxies by the former against the latter as a sort of tit-for-tat. It’s hard to see a positive result for the people of either country.

For this reason, the title of Mr. Jaffrelot’s fine volume is misleading. Despite the military’s willingness to belatedly go after (some of) the extremist groups it has long nurtured for its own ends, its raison d’etre remains its own power, and it’s difficult to imagine its leaders allowing for stability in Afghanistan or closer ties with India. Pakistan is less at a “crossroads” than it is humming along the same path it’s been on for decades, albeit with slight adjustments of speed.

Mr. Chotiner is a contributing writer for Slate.

The failure of civil rule in Pakistan, Jaffrelot argues, is a reflection of the willingness of civilians to be dominated by the military.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/an-army-with-a-country-1471208655
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The World is Just White and Black
And Some Grey parts are so black which a normal persok cant comprehend
Let me explain a bit if you see from indian sides prospective
Pakistan is the problem child
While if you see from the other side Pakistan side india was the Problem
Every country or the rulling elite be it Civilian or Military who ever holds the power will try to implement a system which Helps there cause or whatever they think is in national interest

E.g the most common point in Pakistan needs to do more and fight Taliban in Afghanistan
Because it is national interest of US.
Yes but Pakistan cant just invade a other country and start a new war for some other country
Good taliban and Bad taliban by indian media

These Good talibans are the child same Creater Pakistan , US , Middle east how come they arnt being blamed its just the Pakistan
US itself pays to these Talibans and asking Pakistan to fight Even if Pakistan Says They will Fight a full on war inside Pakistan Will it be in National interest of Pakistan , because will they choose a ally who they cant trust who already left them in a Mess when Soviets left Afghanistan it could have sort out all the problem at that.

As For Military Hold In Pakistan
If you see all of Pakistani History Its been full of blunders by all parties be it Military or Politicians By mostly by elected politicians
And the only cure they saw was military.

Now About The Problem and its solution
Afghanistan And Nwfp its not just some random place these people have been following same rules for over thousand years You cant destroy a home which is already destroyer , Afghanistan is the same grave yard no matter how hard you punch it , dust will always hit back

For me Solution is use of carrot and Stick
carrot being Providing every one basic life necessity being , Education , Jobs , Justice , Freedom , other things in a way so they can adopt it
all of it which is not just to sudden for the People to comprehend
humans will always fear change its Just Who we are
Stick Being use of force whoever messes around

Now as i said eariler world is not so black and White
Whats is your interest might not be in interest of someone else
People always Blame ISI for all the problems specially India
I just have one Question if Pakistan , China , Iran , India , Afghanistan, these other small countries resolve the Problem and Have Good Relations with each other and end up Forming a union Just Like EU who will be the biggest looser , If These countries stop pouring Billions of dollars into Weapons project who will lose there control image a Union of Billions of People , which has best cheap industry , younger , cheaper man power, Food resources, Water resources
You name it everything you need Not good Right
exactly
 
long list of arguments u would have and so am i but we are not going to reach an agreement who won wars b/w indo and pak, but why dont we just consider the mere existence of pakistan the victory of pakistan irrespective of the fact that nobody wants to undo pakistan

Bro u have wrong thinking India never want to destroy Pakistan we r happy with u also bt u r NT happy with us ...
 
Bro u have wrong thinking India never want to destroy Pakistan we r happy with u also bt u r NT happy with us ...

We're fine with you as well. Now Divert your military intention towards north and give kashmir a chance for their fate. Stop funding proxies against us and stop spreading venom, especially with that media of yours.

its a win win situation for both of us.
We wont have to spend much money on defense nor will you have any threat from this side.
 
TheNoob said:
We're fine with you as well. Now Divert your military intention towards north and give kashmir a chance for their fate. Stop funding proxies against us and stop spreading venom, especially with that media of yours.

its a win win situation for both of us.
We wont have to spend much money on defense nor will you have any threat from this side.

We will divert our military when ur agencies stop sending terrorist in India nd u have to stop funding the separatist nd u have to understand in all world no one have that much power to take kashmir from India nd u have to accept it so make loc a international border so we nd u both sleep peacefully....
 
Yes but Pakistan cant just invade a other country and start a new war for some other country
Good taliban and Bad taliban by indian media
Taliban is hosted in pakistan in quetta and nwfp.
They have training camps over there, get weapons and supplies from pakistan. Without pakistan's help they could not have survived the invasion. Please read about the kunduz airlift.

These Good talibans are the child same Creater Pakistan , US , Middle east how come they arnt being blamed its just the Pakistan
US itself pays to these Talibans and asking Pakistan to fight Even if Pakistan Says They will Fight a full on war inside Pakistan Will it be in National interest of Pakistan , because will they choose a ally who they cant trust who already left them in a Mess when Soviets left Afghanistan it could have sort out all the problem at that.
Pakistan went in before usa came in and started arming the mujahideens.
And after the soviets withdrew, pakistan played in the muck and created the taliban. Taliban was created after the soviet withdrawal.
And if u keep harbouring these talis in ur home, wont be long before you have an argument and they start blowing shit up.
U hosts snakes in ur backyard and hope they will only bite the neighbours.
Already a lot of organisations like lej and others have turned against u. Ttp is an offshoot of afghan tali.
How long and how much more bloodshed would it take for pakistan to act as a responsible nation and kick these bastards out?
 
Taliban is hosted in pakistan in quetta and nwfp.
They have training camps over there, get weapons and supplies from pakistan. Without pakistan's help they could not have survived the invasion. Please read about the kunduz airlift.
As i Said Eariler History of this Region is But Strange Where You Cant apply Normal Laws and Way of Life is Different
As For Weapons and Supplies You Need to Come into 2016 Where Pakistan is Fighting and Taken Back So much from TTP , Blindly Following something isnt Good
Pakistan went in before usa came in and started arming the mujahideens.
And after the soviets withdrew, pakistan played in the muck and created the taliban. Taliban was created after the soviet withdrawal.
And if u keep harbouring these talis in ur home, wont be long before you have an argument and they start blowing shit up.
U hosts snakes in ur backyard and hope they will only bite the neighbours.
Already a lot of organisations like lej and others have turned against u. Ttp is an offshoot of afghan tali.
How long and how much more bloodshed would it take for pakistan to act as a responsible nation and kick these bastards out?
As For You accusing me ? Listen I dont Have Any part in it Neither i m Pakistani Citizen neither i was Part of Pakistani Armed Forces But i do have Common Sense and i just Dont See what People Say i have Enough Common Sense To Think About other Options too.
Pakistan has already Lost 70000+ Lives and Billions of Dollars into This War as For Pakistan as i said eariler its These Tribes Dont Like invaders and they are fighting for it and they Will Fight for it Even in next 100 Centuries Even if Pakistan Army Send its Troops Tomorrow To fight With NATO , INDIA , Russia , China They will fight Back

And Instead of Just Talking BS About One Thing You need to see the Whole thing I Wrote and Do read the Last part Where i also Gave the Way To Progress Because You Cant Bring Difference in one year People need to change there way of thinking and way of life which take Time
I think Pakistan is Acting as Responsible Nation and as i said earlier National interest of One Country is Different from other countries interest
 
As i Said Eariler History of this Region is But Strange Where You Cant apply Normal Laws and Way of Life is Different
As For Weapons and Supplies You Need to Come into 2016 Where Pakistan is Fighting and Taken Back So much from TTP , Blindly Following something isnt Good
I do not blindly follow things. I have gone through pakistani literature and opinion makers who claim taliban to be their strategic asset and afghanistan as their strategic depth. Please do not harp the ispr line here.

As For You accusing me ? Listen I dont Have Any part in it Neither i m Pakistani Citizen neither i was Part of Pakistani Armed Forces But i do have Common Sense and i just Dont See what People Say i have Enough Common Sense To Think About other Options too.
I thought u were not from pakistan. But still u r harping the exact ispr line. It is surprising and gives a perception of the kind of research u did about the subject.

Pakistan has already Lost 70000+ Lives and Billions of Dollars into This War as For Pakistan as i said eariler its These Tribes Dont Like invaders and they are fighting for it and they Will Fight for it Even in next 100 Centuries Even if Pakistan Army Send its Troops Tomorrow To fight With NATO , INDIA , Russia , China They will fight

Do u know how many lives were lost by indians in fighting pak sponsored terrorists of afghans lost fighting pakistan sponsored talis.
Do look at the context here. Why was taliban created, what use did the jihadis serve.
The jihadis turned on pak only post 2006 or so. But during 2001-08? What happened? Hosting OBL in abbotabad, hosting mullah mansour.
Are u rly that naive? U r too naive to not be a pakistani.
 
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