Bomber may have hit US vehicle with inside help

[Kharian_Beast]

Don't take false credit for Islamic courts and tribal councils as this is our own matter. Something we achieved on our own.

What an achievement, having Maulana's flogging girls and blowing up their schools...2 birds with 1 stone.

Your beloved Islamabad created the Taliban and TTP thugs and unleashed them on our soil.

Damn right they had a hand in Taliban creation no questions about it and the bastards who are involved should be tried and publicly hanged. But "our" soil is mine too. I am not a Pakhtun but the soil you speak of was obtained through the blood and sacrifice of my forefathers.

Who's facing indiscriminate suicide attacks? Who's facing indiscriminate missile attacks? You? Whose families are dying? Islamabad has sided with the Americans in order to kill their own people.

Last time I checked the entire nation is suffering. Drone strikes is one thing (and be thankful they are targeting Taliban because we all know you Pakhtunkhwa types are against it because they are killing your beloved warriors), but suicide attacks in Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar is routine.

 

[illuminatus]

What an achievement, having Maulana's flogging girls and blowing up their schools...2 birds with 1 stone.




Damn right they had a hand in Taliban creation no questions about it and the bastards who are involved should be tried and publicly hanged. But "our" soil is mine too. I am not a Pakhtun but the soil you speak of was obtained through the blood and sacrifice of my forefathers.



Last time I checked the entire nation is suffering. Drone strikes is one thing (and be thankful they are targeting Taliban because we all know you Pakhtunkhwa types are against it because they are killing your beloved warriors), but suicide attacks in Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar is routine.

TTP Maulana's which were created by Islamabad and their American masters. TTP Maulana's which were entrusted by Islamabad on NWFP. Your Islamabad and your ally US is responsible for TTP bastards whipping our children. No need for any crocodile tears. Had your Islamabad cared about the fate of these girls they wouldn't have supported TTP thugs.

BS. NWFP voluntarily joined Pakistan after its creation. Rosy promises were made, but did we little know that this would be our fate. Little did we know that evil Islamabad would use our soil against our people at the behest of a cruel and bloodthirsty superpower.

The entire nation isn't facing deadly missile strikes in which dozens of innocent women, children, girls, boys and elderly are killed at the hands of foreigners! Why don't you show any compassion for those innocent people? Or are they poor dirt and cheap lives to you? Your beloved America is responsible for the death of these innocent people! You are a supporter of tyranny. You are a coward supporting terror against your own people. No, we categorically reject such cowardly terror. If Pakistan doesn't acknowledge and resolve American terror against our people we will seek independence. No doubt about it. We will defeat both TTP terror and American terror!

 

[Always Neutral]

TTP Maulana's which were created by Islamabad and their American masters. TTP Maulana's which were entrusted by Islamabad on NWFP. Your Islamabad and your ally US is responsible for TTP bastards whipping our children. No need for any crocodile tears. Had your Islamabad cared about the fate of these girls they wouldn't have supported TTP thugs.

BS. NWFP voluntarily joined Pakistan after its creation. Rosy promises were made, but did we little know that this would be our fate. Little did we know that evil Islamabad would use our soil against our people at the behest of a cruel and bloodthirsty superpower.

The entire nation isn't facing deadly missile strikes in which dozens of innocent women, children, girls, boys and elderly are killed at the hands of foreigners! Why don't you show any compassion for those innocent people? Or are they poor dirt and cheap lives to you? Your beloved America is responsible for the death of these innocent people! You are a supporter of tyranny. You are a coward supporting terror against your own people. No, we categorically reject such cowardly terror. If Pakistan doesn't acknowledge and resolve American terror against our people we will seek independence.

Mindless drivel only someone brainwashed will believe.

Regards

Ps : You forgot to add ur favorite bit that Kharian is an Indian

 

[illuminatus]

Mindless drivel only someone brainwashed will believe.

Regards

Ps : You forgot to add ur favorite bit that Kharian is an Indian

Again, unable to counter my arguments so therefore resorting to one-liner rhetoric. You have nothing against me. How can you hide the bitter truth? You're the supporter of terrorism aimed against my people. You're the real terrorist! You created the Mujahideen/Taliban and are therefore the real culprit behind terrorism. Keep on killing innocent people and boasting about it. ******* evil terrorist. We will settle this score one or the other way. The blood of our innocent folks hasn't been spilt in vain. Mark my words. First we're going to deal with your slaves in Islamabad.

PS. Terrorists go on my ignore list. Terrorists that rejoice the death of my people aren't worth my time. You're on my ignore list so don't react to my posts any more.

 

[Always Neutral]

Look who's here... Talking about the devil.

SORRY THE LAST TIME I CHECKED PEOPLE WENT TO UR SIDE OF THE BUSH TO LEARN / TRAIN AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE NOT THE OTHERWAY AROUND.

Had your beloved Americans not created the menace of Taliban my people wouldn't be suffering this fate in the first place! It's exactly the evil and crooked governments like yours that support dictators which oppress their own people.

SO UR PEOPLE ARE SO MENTALLY WEAK THAT IT TOOK A FISTFULL OF DOLLARS TO DESERT JINNAH'S PAKISTAN ?

You lend them moral and financial support for your petty interests. You don't care about democracy or the fate of these lashed girls! You only use that as a pretext to further your own malicious cause. So stop showing crocodile tears you colonialist.

SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TTP WHY ARE U CHEERING THEM HERE. FOR KILLING 3 SOLDIERS THEY WERE HAPPY TO SACRIFICE A 100 INNOCENT GIRLS ? GOOD ROLE MODELS.

When you don't require the services of your petty dictators you ditch them and invade their countries. You unleash terror upon the innocent people in those foreign lands. You bomb them, rape them and humiliate them.

HOW MANY CLAIMS OF RAPE ARE THERE AGAINST BRITISH SOLDIERS ?

So before handing me any lectures about morality just think about that colonialist. You and your government are the main sponsor of Taliban!

ONLY THREE COUNTRIES RECOGNISED THE TALIBAN AND PAKISTAN WAS ONE OF THEM.

We don't need your freaking help! Get the hell out of our land you sick invader!

MY PM DOES NOT GO TO PAKISTAN , IMF ETC,WITH A BEGGING BOWL OR SEND 10000'S OF ILLEGAL AS WELL AS WELCOME LEGAL IMMIGRANTS TO PAKISTAN SO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.

I do care about girls being whipped. I care and that's the sole reason why I'm taking part in this discussion. I care that my people are today being oppressed due to the past failures of slave Islamabad and master US. I hate the Taliban, but I hate you even more. You're the reason why the Taliban are here.

HARD TO BELIEVE THAT U HATE THE TALIBAN OR CARE FOR YOUR SISTERS WHEN UR CHEERING THEM SO LOUDLY.

True, I don't believe in Pakistan which is run by corrupt sold out morons that take their orders from outsiders such as Washington.

YET U ELECT THEM TIME AND AGAIN.

Would you believe in your British government if it took orders from Washington? Would you support the British government if it joined hands with Washington to kill innocent British people by drone attacks?!

WE DID IN IRAQ AND BLAIR LOST HIS JOB. MAYBE SOMETHING U SHOULD LEARN.

It's very easy for you to be judgemental and throw one liners when you're not the one that's suffering. It's easy for you to just talk sitting warm and comfy in Britain. You're a hypocrite that only knows how to talk.

PS. You're an Indian in disguise so please be man enough to expose yourself. Weak and pathetic Indian hiding behind British flags.

MY NATIONALITY IS NOT BEING JUDGED HERE BUT MY COMMENTS CAN BE ON THIS FORUM. GET UR SELF OUT OF THE **** HOLE MENTALITY AND DEBATE IF YOU CAN.

 

[Kharian_Beast]

"Another way to lose control is to ignore something when you should address it."

Jim Evans

 

[Always Neutral]

This message is hidden because Always Neutral the terrorist sympathiser is on your ignore list.

Right in your face you supporter of terror. Don't you dare react to my posts you supporter of tyranny. First you rejoice the death of innocent people and than have the courage to react to my posts? **** off.

THE LAST TIME I CHECKED THAT ALONGWITH THE THREE SOLDIERS THREE INNOCENT GIRLS WERE KILLED AND 100'S WERE TRAUMATISED BY YOUR PIN UP PLAYBOYS.

 

[Musafar]

Kharian_Beast says..
I am not a Pakhtun but the soil you speak of was obtained through the blood and sacrifice of my forefathers.

I'm all for people giving unifiying statements, but lets not poo-poo over history here. Lord Mountbatten even stated that it was the nature and his inability to subdue the Pakhtoons in the NWFP that made him give into Jinnah's request. When he saw the tens of thousands of Pashtoon tribes first hand alongside his wife over the hilltop chanting for the removal of british forces, that's what swung it. Whilst i re-call muslim punjabis who couldn't vaccate areas were burning their family members inside their homes so that Tara singhs mad mob would'nt get to them.

 

[Desert Fox]

Again, unable to counter my arguments so therefore resorting to one-liner rhetoric. You have nothing against me. How can you hide the bitter truth? You're the supporter of terrorism aimed against my people. You're the real terrorist! You created the Mujahideen/Taliban and are therefore the real culprit behind terrorism. Keep on killing innocent people and boasting about it. ******* evil terrorist. We will settle this score one or the other way. The blood of our innocent folks hasn't been spilt in vain. Mark my words. First we're going to deal with your slaves in Islamabad.

PS. Terrorists go on my ignore list. Terrorists that rejoice the death of my people aren't worth my time. You're on my ignore list so don't react to my posts any more.

Salaam bro!

you should just chill out! I agree with you that Zardari and co are corrupt American salves in Islamabad! But this doesn't mean you should dream about breaking away from Pakistan, instead you should pray for your country, pray for a better future!

And it does embarrass me that Pakistan's government has done this to its own country!

dictatorship and democracy has only made us slaves of America and the west! America imposed rulers like Zardari on us under the banner of "democracy"! And some foolish traitors supported these coward people into becoming our leaders!

Musharraf sold Pakistani citizens to America for some $$! And now Zardari is allowing America to dishonor us in front of the whole world by allowing drone strikes in Pakistan which is a sovereign country! More innocent men, women, and children are being killed in drone strikes! For every 10 innocent Pakistanis 1 Al-Qaeda is killed in drone strikes!

You know, at least Taliban have the guts to stand up to superpowers, at least they have humiliated superpowers through out history and i give credit to them for standing up for their nation even though Afghanistan has nothing much to offer them! But us Pakistanis are blessed with a great nation with a lot of potential, but sadly we look towards the west to lead us! We should be leaders and not followers! As you can all see, the west is in moral decline!


long live the good people of Pakistan

and death to the traitors!

 

[blain2]

The way the media has reported this is downright sleightful. First we were led to believe they were US Aid workers, then soldiers overseeing the opening of a new school, now reports are coming through that they were part of a 100-man team of US special forces training the FC.

First, why on earth do we need US forces on our soil commemorating the opening of a school? It doesn't make sense.

If i had to wager a guess I would say they are part of the intelligence gathering community working who got caught offguard by some watchful eyes.

To be fair, I think we should have a proper perspective on this situation. The American SF advisers are in Pakistan with the approval and permission of GoP and the Pakistan Army. The loss of these officers, our men and our school girls is sad and the former being our guests is embarrassing.

They are training FC along with PA officers in CI roles. This is not the first time US SF are in Pakistan. The SSG was created with the help of similar US SF officers back in the late 50s and early 60s. Americans spent about 6-8 years in Pakistan back then doing this.

As part of US SF role, there is a component called "civil affairs" where they reach out and build contacts with the local communities to understand them, help them and find acceptance of the work they are doing. This is no different than when Pakistani SSG/N went to Indonesia and helped with Tsunami relief work there.

Lets not look at everything with the lens of conspiracy theory. Some things can be explained with the most logical explanation. Pakistan ensures that they keep an eye on what is going on with foreign troops inside of Pakistan. This interaction between us and the US SF is a good one because it is helping build CI capability within our paramilitary units.

 

[Kharian_Beast]

I'm all for people giving unifiying statements, but lets not poo-poo over history here. Lord Mountbatten even stated that it was the nature and his inability to subdue the Pakhtoons in the NWFP that made him give into Jinnah's request. When he saw the tens of thousands of Pashtoon tribes first hand alongside his wife over the hilltop chanting for the removal of british forces, that's what swung it. Whilst i re-call muslim punjabis who couldn't vaccate areas were burning their family members inside their homes so that Tara singhs mad mob would'nt get to them.

Thankfully Jinnah's aims were not to "subdue" the Pakhtoon. I understand the point you are trying to make even though I don't think it ties into this discussion and it is only remotely pertinent in the current context with this Pashtunistan freedom movement. Pashtuns are not only well placed and integrated in Pakistani culture and society but they have been allowed to govern themselves outside the writ of the state, something to my dis-liking but nonetheless a big hearted gesture and offering from Sir Jinnah. I also do not understand the point you are trying to make with :

Whilst i re-call muslim punjabis who couldn't vaccate areas were burning their family members inside their homes so that Tara singhs mad mob would'nt get to them

You said, "I'm all for people giving unifiying statements" yet provided us with something unrelated and unsubstantiated that can be seen as dividing.

 

[FireFighter]

Pakhtunkhwa??



I didn't know people still want to revert back to their 1000s of year old backward tribal customs and form a state based on tribalism, something Islam abolished 1400 years ago.

 

[Ahmad]

Pakhtunkhwa??



I didn't know people still want to revert back to their 1000s of year old backward tribal customs and form a state based on tribalism, something Islam abolished 1400 years ago.

i think tribalism dont bring anything but misary. it is an obstacle to progress.

 

[Musafar]

Thankfully Jinnah's aims were not to "subdue" the Pakhtoon...[rest of post removed due to loquacious irrelevance]

...Nor would Jinnah ever be able to fufill such an aim as the very purpose of his goal solely hinged on the magnitude of the protest sent by these Pukhtoons[at the time] to the vice-roy, as it later transpired.

Why do you think Jinnah gave the Pukhtoons the gift of autonomy? It was his way of acknowledging the monumental effort they played in the creation of Pakistan.

You said, "I'm all for people giving unifiying statements" yet provided us with something unrelated and unsubstantiated that can be seen as dividing.

Nothing i've said is unsubstantiated. I can provide first hand *video* evidence of people who went through these troubling times relaying to you what they saw with their own eyes. The point I was making was with regards to you using the argument that you're non-pakhtoon forefathers (which I assume are Punjabi muslims) somehow gave an equal/greater sacrifice in the creation of Pakistan than the Pakhtoons which is clearly not true, as I've said, without the pakhtoons they would be no Pakistan but without the Punjabis they'd still be Pakhtoons living they same way they have for centuries.

 

[Kharian_Beast]

The point I was making was with regards to you using the argument that you're non-pakhtoon forefathers (which I assume are Punjabi muslims)

You assume too much. Try not to get personal in a debate, it makes whatever you are arguing for look weak despite the great knowledge of history.