BNP's views on Blasphemy law:Undecided

[Anubis]

BNP's view on Blasphemy law:Undecided(meeting not yet held)..does not agree with all of HeI's proposals.Hints on Shahbagh,HeI are Government ploys to divert focus from Caretaker government.

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[LaBong]

Blasphempy law in effect is putting a person to gallows for his supposedly offensive act against a religion as judged by some fellow men biased by the same particular religion at which the offensive act is said to be committed.

I wonder if today Europe who had long history of enmity against Muslim countries, deem being Muslims as blasphemous to Christianity(as they did in medieval age) and declare all migrants there as blasphemous; will they be justified at their action?

Meanwhile I do wish BD go for such law and shatter the myth of tolerant nation.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

According to the interview BNP leader distanced BNP from blasphemy law saying they never made or proposed the law when they were in power. It is significant that through this interview he indicated BNP has distanced itself from Hefajat E Islam and even described it as a government outfit. He also said about the claim "if any party needs to come to power they needs to come after fulfilling the 13 point demand" which was made by HeI that it is what they said. BNP may agree on some of the demand but likely to disagree with others. Lastly he claimed that Shahbagh and HeI movement both have been created by government to divert people's attention from caretaker government.


The mistake that Shahbagh movement did by demanding ban on all religious political organization and keeping some atheists at the leading position similar sort of blunder has been done by Hefajat E Islam by demanding many medieval era law. At one hand it pained them as extremist and on the other hand pained it as anti woman which eventually forced BNP to distance itself from the party. I am still curious to know who are the people within HeI that put forwarded the 13 point demand...

Is it just the content of the 13 point demand or something else that has forced BNP to distance itself from HeI???

 

[Moander]

Blasphempy law in effect is putting a person to gallows for his supposedly offensive act against a religion as judged by some fellow men biased by the same particular religion at which the offensive act is said to be committed.

I wonder if today Europe who had long history of enmity against Muslim countries, deem being Muslims as blasphemous to Christianity(as they did in medieval age) and declare all migrants there as blasphemous; will they be justified at their action?

Meanwhile I do wish BD go for such law and shatter the myth of tolerant nation.

Bangladesh is one of the most tolerant nation. The occasional attack on minority is because of the politics not religion.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I have mixed feelings about this 'blasphemy law'. Because once enacted, it will become very difficult to remove, and prone to being misused.

Suffice to say, I think it'd be better to enact something where it ensures that religious vs. secularism are not unnecessarily brought into every affair. Or in other words, something that isn't destructive to society.

Especially in critical matters such as the war crimes tribunal. The role of religion should not have any role in the matter.

According to the interview BNP leader distanced BNP from blasphemy law saying they never made or proposed the law when they were in power. It is significant that through this interview he indicated BNP has distanced itself from Hefajat E Islam and even described it as a government outfit. He also said about the claim "if any party needs to come to power they needs to come after fulfilling the 13 point demand" which was made by HeI that it is what they said. BNP may agree on some of the demand but likely to disagree with others. Lastly he claimed that Shahbagh and HeI movement both have been created by government to divert people's attention from caretaker government.

HeI didn't demand for restoration of CTG, but the IAB did:

Tens of thousands of Islamic activists prayed on the streets of the Bangladeshi capital today during a rally calling for the introduction of blaspemy laws and the restoration of a caretaker government.

Members of the Islami Andolan Bangladesh are demanding the arrest of 'atheist bloggers who insulted Islam' and to pass laws punishing those who 'insulted Islam in the parliament'.

Tens of thousands of Islamic activists hold prayers on streets of Bangladesh capital to call for new blasphemy laws | Mail Online

The mistake that Shahbagh movement did by demanding ban on all religious political organization and keeping some atheists at the leading position similar sort of blunder has been done by Hefajat E Islam by demanding many medieval era law. At one hand it pained them as extremist and on the other hand pained it as anti woman which eventually forced BNP to distance itself from the party. I am still curious to know who are the people within HeI that put forwarded the 13 point demand...

Is it just the content of the 13 point demand or something else that has forced BNP to distance itself from HeI???

Agreed on the women's part being questionable.

Who are the HeI? Well from what is known, they are an extremely conservative group of Muslims. Probably Salafists (they are not too common in Bangladesh).

What perhaps hit them was that Hasina visited Rajib's home after his murder. That gave them the impression that Rajib, along with possibly others like him are Awami loyalists. Hence, that makes the AL anti-Islam. And that hurt a lot of people's sentiments.

Rest be assured, those are some very angry mullahs. If they fail to control them, then this country would be in trouble.

As far as an Awami conspiracy is concerned, we never know. Some say a powerful third party is also involved. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan with overwhelming military power. In case of Bangladesh, it is coming under invasion, but not in the form of a military one.

As I have said before, I support justice for 1971. But I've always questioned the legitimacy of the tribunal. However, I never imagined this whole affair would go so far and so wide with potentially dire sociopolitical ramifications for the entire nation.

 

[kobiraaz]

According to the interview BNP leader distanced BNP from blasphemy law saying they never made or proposed the law when they were in power. It is significant that through this interview he indicated BNP has distanced itself from Hefajat E Islam and even described it as a government outfit. He also said about the claim "if any party needs to come to power they needs to come after fulfilling the 13 point demand" which was made by HeI that it is what they said. BNP may agree on some of the demand but likely to disagree with others. Lastly he claimed that Shahbagh and HeI movement both have been created by government to divert people's attention from caretaker government.


The mistake that Shahbagh movement did by demanding ban on all religious political organization and keeping some atheists at the leading position similar sort of blunder has been done by Hefajat E Islam by demanding many medieval era law. At one hand it pained them as extremist and on the other hand pained it as anti woman which eventually forced BNP to distance itself from the party. I am still curious to know who are the people within HeI that put forwarded the 13 point demand...

Is it just the content of the 13 point demand or something else that has forced BNP to distance itself from HeI???

lol pathetic. This is not BNP position. Any statement by any BNP member other than Khaleda, Tareq and Fakhrul shouldnt be taken seriuosly.....

 

[Luffy 500]

According to the interview BNP leader distanced BNP from blasphemy law saying they never made or proposed the law when they were in power. It is significant that through this interview he indicated BNP has distanced itself from Hefajat E Islam and even described it as a government outfit. He also said about the claim "if any party needs to come to power they needs to come after fulfilling the 13 point demand" which was made by HeI that it is what they said. BNP may agree on some of the demand but likely to disagree with others. Lastly he claimed that Shahbagh and HeI movement both have been created by government to divert people's attention from caretaker government.


The mistake that Shahbagh movement did by demanding ban on all religious political organization and keeping some atheists at the leading position similar sort of blunder has been done by Hefajat E Islam by demanding many medieval era law. At one hand it pained them as extremist and on the other hand pained it as anti woman which eventually forced BNP to distance itself from the party. I am still curious to know who are the people within HeI that put forwarded the 13 point demand...

Is it just the content of the 13 point demand or something else that has forced BNP to distance itself from HeI???

Selectively quoting like a typical awamileaguer. Here's the other part of the statement taken from your awami outlet BALer Alo:

আপনারা তো সেই ইস্যুর সঙ্গে জড়িয়ে যাচ্ছেন মনে হয়—এ প্রশ্নের জবাবে খন্দকার মোশাররফ হোসেন বলেন, ‘যেকোনো একটা ইস্যু বাংলাদেশে সৃষ্টি হলে এর পক্ষে-বিপক্ষে অবস্থান অবশ্যই রাজনৈতিক দলগুলোকে নিতে হবে। আমরা যে পক্ষটা নিয়েছি, অর্থাৎ হেফাজতে ইসলাম মহানবী (সা.)-কে নিয়ে কটূক্তি করার যে প্রতিবাদ করেছে, এই প্রতিবাদ করাটা যেকোনো মুসলমানের ইমানি দায়িত্ব। সেই দায়িত্ব থেকেই আমরা এই সমাবেশের সঙ্গে একাত্মতা ঘোষণা করেছি, জড়িয়ে যাচ্ছি ঠিক নয়। এটার সঙ্গেই আমাদের থাকতে হবে। এ নিয়েই আমাদের রাজনীতি।’

বিএনপিতে আলোচনা হয়নি, জামায়াত চায় - প্রথম আলো

On top of that BNP officially sided with HeI and the 13 demands of HeI was very known by everyone long before they officially demanded it in the rally.

And its really pathetic of U to even compare the circus show in shabag with HeI lead Million + rally. They didn't have the luxury of biryani , 3 layers of police protection and support from awami yellow media outlets but had to walk their way to Dhaka. But then again U awami leaguers are shameless jokers to begin with.

 

[scholseys]

couldn't care less about this law,won't affect me in anyway or form, if passing this law eradicates awami league i'll gladly endorse it.

 

[Spring Onion]

Blasphempy law in effect is putting a person to gallows for his supposedly offensive act against a religion as judged by some fellow men biased by the same particular religion at which the offensive act is said to be committed.

I wonder if today Europe who had long history of enmity against Muslim countries, deem being Muslims as blasphemous to Christianity(as they did in medieval age) and declare all migrants there as blasphemous; will they be justified at their action?

Meanwhile I do wish BD go for such law and shatter the myth of tolerant nation.

They clever enough not to use religious card to discriminate Muslims but they use Secularism card to discriminate Muslims.

they are no better. They are persecuting Muslims in the name of secularism

The Muslim nations should learn from them and persecute them in name of same secularism

 

[Luffy 500]

No muslim in his sane mind can ridicule those 13 demands let alone call it medieval apart awami-leftist scums. Many of those points were already prevailing in BD before BAL scums came to power while others pertains to basic democratic rights.

 

[Zabaniyah]

couldn't care less about this law,won't affect me in anyway or form, if passing this law eradicates awami league i'll gladly endorse it.

Oh...I see what you did there...

No muslim in his sane mind can ridicule those 13 demands let alone call it medieval apart awami-leftist scums. Many of those points were already prevailing in BD before BAL scums came to power while others pertains to basic democratic rights.

Including women rights? I think that matter should be looked into more.

I don't think BNP will support all of the points. Couldn't say much about the blasphemy law though. Someone is obviously trying to destabilize Bangladesh.

 

[Luffy 500]

Including women rights? I think that matter should be looked into more.

I don't think BNP will support all of the points. Couldn't say much about the blasphemy law though. Someone is obviously trying to destabilize Bangladesh.

U know the women rights bill was passed by BAL, before that there was no fuss about it. Muslims could follow Islamic inheritance law while non-muslims would follow theirs. (correct me if I am wrong).The current one does some clear violation of muslim personal law. Also Women in BD don't even get fair share of inheritance prescribed for them in the sharia and now U are asking for 50-50? They won't even get this in BD's male dominated society. And the reason why sharia allocates less for women is because women are also liable to get Husband's share. It is seen that they get more share of wealth with relatively less responsibility than their brothers. Also there are many who don't give bridal dowry(den mohor) to their wives (as per sharia) but rather demand from them. SO sharia does look after women rights.

And yeah I agree with U that BNP won't agree with all the points. U can not switch to Islamic sharia overnight but rather its a slow gradual process which requires education and religious consciousness among the masses. Otherwise there are chances that Sharia will be abused by elites via misinterpretation. Current muslims world is too primitive to implement full Sharia law IMO. But demands such as reinstating absolute faith in Allah(swt) in the constitution and declaring Ahmadias as non-muslims should be meet. This things reflect our identity. Also there should be some sort of harsh punishment for any blasphemy against Islam and Islamic principles in the name of freedom of speech. That's my opinion.

btw what HeI demanded won't make BD an Islamic state at all.

 

[Zabaniyah]

U know the women rights bill was passed by BAL, before that there was no fuss about it. Muslims could follow Islamic inheritance law while non-muslims would follow theirs. (correct me if I am wrong).The current one does some clear violation of muslim personal law. Also Women in BD don't even get fair share of inheritance prescribed for them in the sharia and now U are asking for 50-50? They won't even get this in BD's male dominated society. And the reason why sharia allocates less for women is because women are also liable to get Husband's share. It is seen that they get more share of wealth with relatively less responsibility than their brothers. Also there are many who don't give bridal dowry to their wives (as per sharia) but rather demand from them.

The property inheritance law is optional under the current scenario. It is there.

However, Sharia Law states that men get more share since they typically have more responsibilities than women. It is mandatory.

Islam states the responsibilities and roles of men, women, husbands, wives and the dynamics of a family very clearly. Unfortunately, this aspect is not particularly well understood and prone to being misinterpreted by both religious and secular fundamentalists according to their individual and collective whims.

And yeah I agree with U that BNP won't agree with all the points specially the one about free mixing. U can not switch to Islamic sharia overnight but rather its a slow gradual process which requires education and religious consciousness among the masses. Otherwise there are chances that Sharia will be abused by elites via misinterpretation. Current muslims world is too primitive to implement full Sharia law IMO. But demands such reinstating absolute faith in Allah(swt) in the constitution and declaring Ahmadias as non-muslims should be meet. This things reflect our identity. Also there should be some sort of harsh punishment for any blasphemy against Islam and Islamic principles in the name of freedom of speech. That's my opinion.

I think parties based on religious principles is possible. Muslims do need to mature more undoubtedly.

Currently, I think they should opt to make the people responsible for converting the war crimes trial issue into a religion vs. secular issue, accountable. Not just a bunch of low-life bloggers.

 

[Luffy 500]

The property inheritance law is optional under the current scenario. It is there.

However, Sharia Law states that men get more share since they typically have more responsibilities than women. It is mandatory.

Islam states the responsibilities and roles of men, women, husbands, wives and the dynamics of a family very clearly. Unfortunately, this aspect is not particularly well understood and prone to being misinterpreted by both religious and secular fundamentalists according to their individual and collective whims.

Thanks for clarifying about the optional part.

And U are right about why Sharia gives more to men.

Well sharia is very clear on the inheretence issue but its secular fundamentalist who tries to fish in muddy water. I was saying that many Bangladeshis cheat their wives and sisters when it comes to bridal dowry(den mohor) and wealth distribution as per sharia. If sharia was implemented this would not have been the case.

I think parties based on religious principles is possible. Muslims do need to mature more undoubtedly.

Currently, I think they should opt to make the people responsible for converting the war crimes trial issue into a religion vs. secular issue, accountable. Not just a bunch of low-life bloggers.

Agree with U. And on top of that why should the obscure notion of Banning religious parties even come.

War crime trail can not be saved from controversy. The farce has been balantly exposed and awami turds showed that they don't care about any rule of law or moral codes of conduct. The farce verdict of Maulana sydee naturally raised the religion VS secular issue. What do U expect? Tons of awamileaguers also adores the guy's religious sermons. What's needed is an impartial , apolitical trail abiding to Intl standards.

 

[LaBong]

They clever enough not to use religious card to discriminate Muslims but they use Secularism card to discriminate Muslims.

they are no better. They are persecuting Muslims in the name of secularism

The Muslim nations should learn from them and persecute them in name of same secularism

Are seriously comparing so called Muslim nations with western countries when it comes to discriminating based on religion. Please tell me you are joking. There's no discrimination based on secularism, it's an oxymoron, when everyone gets the same treatment it isn't discrimination anymore.