BNP chief Khaleda Zia attacked during city election campaign in Dhaka

[kalu_miah]

I certainly have a job offer from the BNP to work for their foreign affairs team, I am mulling over it.

I would recommend for you to accept the offer. They obviously need help and with the exposure you had from PDF, you would be an asset for them.

 

[scholseys]

I would recommend for you to accept the offer. They obviously need help and with the exposure you had from PDF, you would be an asset for them.

I have more or less unofficially worked for the BNP, it was draining and now i am completely demoralized, lets see what happens. I don't have the motivation ...

@kalu_miah

I wrote this paper around three days before Tarique Rahman's announcement for the 5th January movement.

So what happened on January 5, 2014 and what is supposed to happen on the same day this year?

The moral high grounds of the BNP appears to be power, money and 'democracy', the activists of the BNP need a cause to die for, a real cause, the people of Bangladesh need a cause to die for. The BNP has no moral high ground to preach about democracy given its not so bright last term. The BNP’s morale will be badly hit, very badly hit…
YES! the movement for democracy succeeded back in the 90s to topple the fascist dictator Ershad, but the people of Bangladesh have experienced democracy under these two parties and are not so satisfied with their records. Back then, if Ershad ordered the killings of unarmed protestors like birds, he would have been skinned alive by the army and the people of Bangladesh like the facist dictator Benito Mussolini of Italy.
Only a campaign on the fair share of the Teesta water can topple this government, nothing else can...

A single citizen of Bangladesh gets killed by a bullet, ten others will join, it has a just moral high ground and a cause to die for. Not to forget the International media attention it will get, Imagine reading the headlines “people dying for the right of water”, it makes a great sad story. The Indians will be likely be running scared from the international media backlash.

 

[kalu_miah]

I have more or less unofficially worked for the BNP, it was draining and now i am completely demoralized, lets see what happens. I don't have the motivation ...

@kalu_miah

I wrote this paper around three days before Tarique Rahman's announcement for the 5th January movement.

So what happened on January 5, 2014 and what is supposed to happen on the same day this year?

The moral high grounds of the BNP appears to be power, money and 'democracy', the activists of the BNP need a cause to die for, a real cause, the people of Bangladesh need a cause to die for. The BNP has no moral high ground to preach about democracy given its not so bright last term. The BNP’s morale will be badly hit, very badly hit…
YES! the movement for democracy succeeded back in the 90s to topple the fascist dictator Ershad, but the people of Bangladesh have experienced democracy under these two parties and are not so satisfied with their records. Back then, if Ershad ordered the killings of unarmed protestors like birds, he would have been skinned alive by the army and the people of Bangladesh like the facist dictator Benito Mussolini of Italy.
Only a campaign on the fair share of the Teesta water can topple this government, nothing else can...

A single citizen of Bangladesh gets killed by a bullet, ten others will join, it has a just moral high ground and a cause to die for. Not to forget the International media attention it will get, Imagine reading the headlines “people dying for the right of water”, it makes a great sad story. The Indians will be likely be running scared from the international media backlash.

Yes, Teesta water and other rivers dammed up by India would have been excellent issues to fight for. Like you said, it is possible that Khaleda and Tarique already made deals with India, that is why they will not go against India. In a top down system like our political parties, unless people at the top are receptive to your message, nothing will happen. And of course they will not reveal what deals they made with who, but then action speaks louder than words.

If they made any such deal, what they do not realize is that India will never allow them to come to power as long as Hasina and Joy is alive. They are a distant third and fourth in order of preference, simply because they are not trusted like they trust the other family, who they worked with for many decades and generations.

So if I were them, I would really be honest with the people of the country, tell them the truth and fight for causes that really can rally the public such as the water issues that you mentioned which is close to people's heart, but it is not happening.

That is why I say Khaleda and Tarique are bigger obstacle for Bangladeshi people's journey towards true sovereignty and independence than Hasina and Joy. And that is why India will keep them alive.

Having said all that, I would still recommend you to accept the offer. May be you can bring some sense to these clueless leaders.

 

[scholseys]

Yes, Teesta water and other rivers dammed up by India would have been excellent issues to fight for. Like you said, it is possible that Khaleda and Tarique already made deals with India, that is why they will not go against India. In a top down system like our political parties, unless people at the top are receptive to your message, nothing will happen. And of course they will not reveal what deals they made with who, but then action speaks louder than words.

If they made any such deal, what they do not realize is that India will never allow them to come to power as long as Hasina and Joy is alive. They are a distant third and fourth in order of preference, simply because they are not trusted like they trust the other family, who they worked with for many decades and generations.

So if I were them, I would really be honest with the people of the country, tell them the truth and fight for causes that really can rally the public such as the water issues that you mentioned which is close to people's heart, but it is not happening.

That is why I say Khaleda and Tarique are bigger obstacle for Bangladeshi people's journey towards true sovereignty and independence than Hasina and Joy. And that is why India will keep them alive.

Having said all that, I would still recommend you to accept the offer. May be you can bring some sense to these clueless leaders.

I wanted the BNP to use its muscle to do a nationalist campaign using the Teesta water agreement, but instead it went with a clueless movement with no real plan B to fall for.

 

[Bilal9]

I wanted the BNP to use its muscle to do a nationalist campaign using the Teesta water agreement, but instead it went with a clueless movement with no real plan B to fall for.

Well we can all be inspired being on high ground and high morals but if the horse we're betting on is bent on 'also ran' and 'second cousin' status (after a being on healthy payoff and on constant payroll of you know who) then forget the 'desher bhalo'. Ain't happenin'. Forget about the Teesta water, It will bypass Bangladesh, go left and flow down the Hooghly into the Bay of Bengal.

 

[scholseys]

Well we can all be inspired being on high ground and high morals but if the horse we're betting on is bent on 'also ran' and 'second cousin' status (after a being on healthy payoff and on constant payroll of you know who) then forget the 'desher bhalo'. Ain't happenin'. Forget about the Teesta water, It will bypass Bangladesh, go left and flow down the Hooghly into the Bay of Bengal.

Too many sycophants around...

 

[T-Rex]

So, what was the objective of the so called 'andolon'? The failure of this andolon completely demoralized the BNP and not to mention the resources and man power wasted . The BNP was warned about not doing this andolon prior without any complete plan, it was highly disorganized and lacked any objective besides bringing the army down. You are talking emotionally or simply like a third level BNP activist, I have no time for third level Indian dalal like yourself.

The objective was to force the AL regime to step down. Now, for a backstabber that may be too difficult to comprehend but yes, that was the objective. Yes, BNP has failed because it was counting on its so-called foreign allies to put 'unbearable' pressure on the AL regime, over-looking the fact that those allies are actually AL's allies through india. BNP is a party that depends on allies like the US and the EU and that is its inherent weakness. If BNP had depended entirely on its supporters and had been prepared to go at any length which means being ready to even start a Houthi style rebellion the goals would have been achieved. As for being an indian dalal, I don't expect anything better from backstabbers, after all, they judge others the way they are.

You are wrong, the begums are the people's choice, you can't do anything to them; they are wired in the hearts and minds of the people and they are the symbol of democracy to the outside world, military only symbolizes fascism and dictatorship. If you put them in jail, their popularity will only rise. The military will have no other option but to hold a free, fair and credible elections as the west will have more pull within the military. Not to forget that a military run nation can't participate in the UN missions.

In other posts you said that BNP led movement did not enjoy the support of the people and now you're contradicting yourself by saying that both ladies are people's choice. As for fascism, even a civilian regime can be a symbol of fascism, the examples are simply too many. All your views are twisted forms of the truth.

 

[scholseys]

The objective was to force the AL regime to step down. Now, for a backstabber that may be too difficult to comprehend but yes, that was the objective. Yes, BNP has failed because it was counting on its so-called foreign allies to put 'unbearable' pressure on the AL regime, over-looking the fact that those allies are actually AL's allies through india. BNP is a party that depends on allies like the US and the EU and that is its inherent weakness. If BNP had depended entirely on its supporters and had been prepared to go at any length which means being ready to even start a Houthi style rebellion the goals would have been achieved. As for being an indian dalal, I don't expect anything better from backstabbers, after all, they judge others the way they are.




In other posts you said that BNP led movement did not enjoy the support of the people and now you're contradicting yourself by saying that both ladies are people's choice. As for fascism, even a civilian regime can be a symbol of fascism, the examples are simply too many. All your views are twisted forms of the truth.

As I stated earlier, third level BNP supporter, third level BNP supporter. Too many ifs and buts in your argument, the movement simple did not have any coherent direction and ran out of steam. The foreign pressure 'would' have worked if the BNP had the required firepower to topple the government...

Its not that my views are twisted, its you who is twisting it. Both Khaleda and Hasina have a core base supporter, you'd see it you take off your Falu tinted glasses.

 

[T-Rex]

As I stated earlier, third level BNP supporter, third level BNP supporter. Too many ifs and buts in your argument, the movement simple did not have any coherent direction and ran out of steam. The foreign pressure 'would' have worked if the BNP had the required firepower to topple the government...

Its not that my views are twisted, its you who is twisting it. Both Khaleda and Hasina have a core base supporter, you'd see it you take off your Falu tinted glasses.

Here goes the rants of a fourth grade backstabber who stays close to Khaleda in order to backstab her movement. Take off your rawami media glasses and you'll see the situation as it is.

 

[chaanmia]

My foot! If so, Kashmir would have been independent today and it wouldn't take decades for Vietnam to get hers.



There were more than a million supporters of Hefazote Islam in the streets of Dhaka and they were riddled with bullets. So, it's not so easy as you think. As for BNP media, only a person who pretends to be blind says that BNP has any control over the media. I know you're not blind, you're just acting like one.

My foot! If so, Kashmir would have been independent today and it wouldn't take decades for Vietnam to get hers.



There were more than a million supporters of Hefazote Islam in the streets of Dhaka and they were riddled with bullets. So, it's not so easy as you think. As for BNP media, only a person who pretends to be blind says that BNP has any control over the media. I know you're not blind, you're just acting like one.

hell yeah we infidels killed 5billion that day (with some help from rajnikanth)

My foot! If so, Kashmir would have been independent today and it wouldn't take decades for Vietnam to get hers.



There were more than a million supporters of Hefazote Islam in the streets of Dhaka and they were riddled with bullets. So, it's not so easy as you think. As for BNP media, only a person who pretends to be blind says that BNP has any control over the media. I know you're not blind, you're just acting like one.