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Blind Faith blasphemy in Pakistan

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Obsessed with Blasphemy..aren't we??

One simple solution will be....Dont say anything about someone who is not important for you?
If somebody doesn't believe in Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) He is not of any importance for them,and that should be the end of story..Why not keep away from wasting your thoughts and energy by commenting and thinking about someone who in their opinion was an insignificant person from desert or probably didn't exist.I...and lame illiterate baseless comments about Him are nothing more than an intentional attempt of provoking anger among those who really think Him to be an important person...
Every such attempt of disturbing public peace should be punishable....
I am not in favor of random vigilante justice..but yes..Such bad intentions of disturbing masses by spewing out hate and insult against a most respected religious icon should remain Punishable by law..
And fortunately still in Pakistan Majority believe in Respecting the Prophet to the highest degree..The confused minority can find some other place or country to fulfill their useless,unnecessary distorted right of self expression...Majority Rules?
 
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Thats partly the point safriz.

These people dont usually say anything about the prophet pbuh. They get accused by some idiot, over trivial matters, and the shitstorm starts. You cannot prove them guilty, or not guilty, because they are weak and will always be outnumbered by the mob.

In the video, there's one woman who lent her neighbour 2000rs, but when it came time to get the money back, the neighbour decided she was guilty of blasphemy. That kind of triviality when it comes to religion makes me sick.
 
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Trying to get rid of the law will bring every looney onto the street so we might as well change the law so the accuser is also arrested........lets see if the "lovers of the prophet" are willing to do some time in jail to prove there point that a certain person has commited blasphemy.
 
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blasphemy"s black law is gift of zia and we all know public is much more blind in Pakistan
 
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^^^the british? i dont think so.

For background, here is the text of the original law introduced into the Indian Penal Code by British colonial rulers in 1860:

Section 295: Injuring or defiling place of worship, with intent to insult the religion of any class:

“Whoever destroys, damages, or defiles a place of worship, or any object held sacred by any class of persons with the intention of thereby insulting the religion of any class of persons or with the knowledge that any class of persons is likely to consider such destruction, damage or defilement as an insult to their religion, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both.”

Here is the version of one of the added clauses which have caused so much acrimony in Pakistan, as amended in 1986 by Pakistan’s then military ruler, General Zia-ul-Haq:

Section 295-C: Use of derogatory remarks, etc, in respect of the Holy Prophet (pbuh)

“Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation, or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life and shall also be liable to fine.”

The amendment loses any acknowledgement of intent. Yet intent is not only a fundamental part of any legal system but also an essential attribute of faith. Indeed when Britain abolished its own archaic blasphemy laws in 2008, and these were replaced with laws against inciting religious and racial hatred, the idea of intent was retained.
Living Armstrongism: The Oppression of Pakistan's Man Made Blasphemy Law
 
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For background, here is the text of the original law introduced into the Indian Penal Code by British colonial rulers in 1860:

Section 295: Injuring or defiling place of worship, with intent to insult the religion of any class:

“Whoever destroys, damages, or defiles a place of worship, or any object held sacred by any class of persons with the intention of thereby insulting the religion of any class of persons or with the knowledge that any class of persons is likely to consider such destruction, damage or defilement as an insult to their religion, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to two years, or with fine, or with both.”

Here is the version of one of the added clauses which have caused so much acrimony in Pakistan, as amended in 1986 by Pakistan’s then military ruler, General Zia-ul-Haq:

Section 295-C: Use of derogatory remarks, etc, in respect of the Holy Prophet (pbuh)

“Whoever by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representation, or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, directly or indirectly defiles the sacred name of the Holy Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or imprisonment for life and shall also be liable to fine.”

The amendment loses any acknowledgement of intent. Yet intent is not only a fundamental part of any legal system but also an essential attribute of faith. Indeed when Britain abolished its own archaic blasphemy laws in 2008, and these were replaced with laws against inciting religious and racial hatred, the idea of intent was retained.
Living Armstrongism: The Oppression of Pakistan's Man Made Blasphemy Law

Thanks, i didnt know that. But there is a clear difference between the Zia's version and British version.
 
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Thats partly the point safriz.

These people dont usually say anything about the prophet pbuh. They get accused by some idiot, over trivial matters, and the shitstorm starts. You cannot prove them guilty, or not guilty, because they are weak and will always be outnumbered by the mob.

In the video, there's one woman who lent her neighbour 2000rs, but when it came time to get the money back, the neighbour decided she was guilty of blasphemy. That kind of triviality when it comes to religion makes me sick.

and that is not the problem of the law rather a problem of the court system that relies on circumstantial evidences... a curse of the British court system that runs in our country...
 
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sad affair of state we need strict law enforcement and new constitution..throw away the rotten crap we have now
 
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Karachi: Police have arrested a 17-year old Pakistani boy for writing an allegedly blasphemous remark in an examination paper, an officer said on Tuesday.

Pakistan's blasphemy laws have come under intense scrutiny since the murder last month of a prominent politician who had campaigned to change them. They allow for the death penalty for anyone found guilty of insulting Islam. Critics say they are often used to settle scores and unfairly target the country's non-Muslim minorities.

School authorities lodged a police complaint against the boy, identified as Sami Ullah, in January after reading an examination paper he took in the city of Karachi, said police officer Qudrat Shah Lodhi.

Lodhi said he could not repeat what the boy, who is a Muslim, had written because he would be committing blasphemy if he did. He said the boy told police he wrote the blasphemous material out of frustration when he was not able to answer the exam question.

"He submitted an apology to the examination authorities and feels ashamed and depressed," Lodhi said

He said Ullah was arrested on January 29 and placed in police custody while officers investigated the case.

No one has been put to death for blasphemy, and most times guilty verdicts are overturned on appeal. But there have been several documented cases of mobs killing people accused of blasphemy.

Critics have said the laws either need to be repealed or amended to stop them from being abused or applied frivolously. But Pakistan's powerful clerical class have campaigned against any changes, and portrayed critics as being anti-Islam -- a potent charge in this Muslim-majority nation.
 
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Obsessed with Blasphemy..aren't we??

One simple solution will be....Dont say anything about someone who is not important for you?
If somebody doesn't believe in Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) He is not of any importance for them,and that should be the end of story..Why not keep away from wasting your thoughts and energy by commenting and thinking about someone who in their opinion was an insignificant person from desert or probably didn't exist.I...and lame illiterate baseless comments about Him are nothing more than an intentional attempt of provoking anger among those who really think Him to be an important person...
Every such attempt of disturbing public peace should be punishable....
I am not in favor of random vigilante justice..but yes..Such bad intentions of disturbing masses by spewing out hate and insult against a most respected religious icon should remain Punishable by law..
And fortunately still in Pakistan Majority believe in Respecting the Prophet to the highest degree..The confused minority can find some other place or country to fulfill their useless,unnecessary distorted right of self expression...Majority Rules?

Interesting. You are making it sound like that only Non Muslims are engaged in blasphemy. What about those 50% Muslims who were tried under this law and just recently three Muslims are booked under this law. Are Muslims becoming more blasphemous with time or is there something wrong with this law?

You are admitting yourself that Majority respect prophet(P.B.U.H) because majority are Muslims. So then is there any need for this law in the first place? It shows just our insecurity, nothing else.

Why should minority find some other place?They have the right to express themselves just like our oppressive majority.Keep in mind that,

The moral test of any society is "how it treats its most vulnerable members.


If the minority has a problem with this law then surely not without a reason.
 
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If the minority has a problem with this law then surely not without a reason.

The majority in Turkey, Egypt, and Iran once accepted the notion that enlightenment, democracy, modernity, reason, and the rule of law were good things, that the West has used these things to good purpose, and that we in the Muslim world should find our own iteration of them and catch up. Now the radical fringe is much stronger and directly challenges this. They say they do not want reason, they want revolution. They don’t want laws, they have the Koran. They don’t want equality because the Koran says there is inequality and they abide by the Koran. They say they don’t want democracy, that it’s a trick of the colonial Crusaders. Thirty years ago people laughed at these ideas. link

I guess we can add Pakistan to this list.
 
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