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Blanket Ban on Pakistan by many international websites

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This is a really frightening trend. I wanted to buy something (a webserver for my website) and i can't register on their site or purchase their product. They have banned Pakistan and refuse to do business. When i use a VPN or ask my friend in other countries, they can purchase fine.

As if it wasn't hard already to buy things online in Pakistan due to lack of PayPal etc. There are many hosting companies who refuse to do business with Pakistan and reject the order straight away calling it fraud if you order from Pakistan.

Google adsense for example treats you like a criminal if you're from Pakistan and there's a higher scrutiny than if you're from US. I have seen it with my own eyes. Little guys in Pakistan get banned by adsense for no reason whereas it's completely different for US accounts. Xoom doesn't allow transfers to Pakistan even though it is advertised, some Pakistani in another forum said it was because Indians control its regional office for Asia or something.

Too many sites/services to mention for one post so i'll cut to the chase.

What the hell can we Pakistanis do about it? There must be some way we can highlight this racism against Pakistan and shame these people for cutting off Pakistanis.

This is funny in a way too They WON"T TAKE OUR MONEY LOL. How the hell do we make them take our money :yahoo:
You can use a domestic hosting service and can pay them with easypaisa.
 
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, some Pakistani in another forum said it was because Indians control its regional office for Asia or something.
The usual, if it's not Indians then its the Jews fault.

It definitely has no relation to the counterfeiting and fraud likelihood along with lack of the proper regulations. Heavens forbid.
 
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There are alternatives for somethings but not everything. And quite frankly, some alternatives aren't just as good as the main product.



Why isn't India banned then? Which is known for fraud much the same like Pakistanis.

Anyway, i don't want this thread derailed so i'll edit that bit out.

Indian diaspora
Being muslim
In a region where the west is fighting against " terrorist"
General failure of Pakistan's bureaucracy,foreign ministry and leaders of its economic policy
Piss poor safety and regulation
Non-availability of Paypal
Shit banking services and regulation
FATF
 
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There are alternatives for somethings but not everything. And quite frankly, some alternatives aren't just as good as the main product.
Seriously I don't understand what jingle you are trying to buy here but if you want to buy a hosting service it is quite easily available here of all types. unless you plan to make an anonymous website for which I would advise that you could be still tracked even by making an online purchase of hosting service.
 
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Why isn't India banned then? Which is known for fraud much the same like Pakistanis.

Anyway, i don't want this thread derailed so i'll edit that bit out.
Because despite what you are told in Pakistan, organized fraud is relatively little in India and, what is most important, regulations and laws are robust so the system responds to problems.
 
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This is a really frightening trend. I wanted to buy something (a webserver for my website) and i can't register on their site or purchase their product. They have banned Pakistan and refuse to do business. When i use a VPN or ask my friend in other countries, they can purchase fine.

As if it wasn't hard already to buy things online in Pakistan due to lack of PayPal etc. There are many hosting companies who refuse to do business with Pakistan and reject the order straight away calling it fraud if you order from Pakistan.

Google adsense for example treats you like a criminal if you're from Pakistan and there's a higher scrutiny than if you're from US. I have seen it with my own eyes. Little guys in Pakistan get banned by adsense for no reason whereas it's completely different for US accounts. Xoom doesn't allow transfers to Pakistan even though it is advertised.

Too many sites/services to mention for one post so i'll cut to the chase.

What the hell can we Pakistanis do about it? There must be some way we can highlight this racism against Pakistan and shame these people for cutting off Pakistanis.
Because of our weak banking and other anti fraud laws and regulations that most of the times favor the culprits. You alone can't do anything unless the parliament takes necessary steps. And we know that our parliament is full of culprits, whether they are on government benches or opposition. There's a reason Pakistan is still on FATF grey list because we are so slow in making the laws that protect the culprits sitting in the parliament.

Sad state of affairs really, but few people can't make any change.
 
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The PTA is a shitshow run by crazy boomers who have no clue on how to run the internet. And 0 effort by ISI etc to counter misinformation about Pak spread by India who already has IT Cells commanding internet propaganda brigades.

In short: Burn the PTA to the ground and rebuild it. Like those trees covered in spiders or like a tumour. Just get rid of it, you can't repair it.
 
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organized fraud is relatively little in India
i just received a call from an indian scammer some minutes back..
not lying and this is way often..nigerians envy you folks.. they even visit your country for bootcamp but then you guys do racism with them.
 
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This is a really frightening trend. I wanted to buy something (a webserver for my website) and i can't register on their site or purchase their product. They have banned Pakistan and refuse to do business. When i use a VPN or ask my friend in other countries, they can purchase fine.

As if it wasn't hard already to buy things online in Pakistan due to lack of PayPal etc. There are many hosting companies who refuse to do business with Pakistan and reject the order straight away calling it fraud if you order from Pakistan.

Google adsense for example treats you like a criminal if you're from Pakistan and there's a higher scrutiny than if you're from US. I have seen it with my own eyes. Little guys in Pakistan get banned by adsense for no reason whereas it's completely different for US accounts. Xoom doesn't allow transfers to Pakistan even though it is advertised.

Too many sites/services to mention for one post so i'll cut to the chase.

What the hell can we Pakistanis do about it? There must be some way we can highlight this racism against Pakistan and shame these people for cutting off Pakistanis.
Which web hosting you tried? Every major web hosting deals with Pakistan in my experience.

Seriously I don't understand what jingle you are trying to buy here but if you want to buy a hosting service it is quite easily available here of all types. unless you plan to make an anonymous website for which I would advise that you could be still tracked even by making an online purchase of hosting service.
Same. Not sure what did he do, not just hosting service, every cloud computing company deals with Pakistan, I myself purchased AWS and Digital Ocean servers without any difficulty just as an American would buy.
 
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Save me the lies, please
etc etc. Indians are known for tech support scam in West.

I expected these very videos in your reply. Again, I didn't say that there is no fraud. I said its little. It used to be more earlier. Please understand the difference. And the regulations are robust. So authorities when notified, crackdown fast.

But what is more important is that AML in the financial system is robust. Anti-Money Laundering and anti-terrorism financing systems are very strong throughout the system. This leads to the confidence of international financial intermediaries to invest and expand in India. This is not rocket science.

The above-mentioned reasons are also why Indian and Chinese digital financial firms are expanding in India and why digital transactions are rapidly gaining. The Government of India has and is continuing to create platforms and regulations to enable digitalization of all finance in India.

This is also why even Chinese firms like Tencent & Alibaba are investing in the Indian financial system. To give you an example, Alibaba invested and bought 40% of PayTM, one of the largest financial app in India and valued at over $16 billion USD. Separately, the extent of Chinese investment is also why India had to enact a new regulation to stop Chinese investment in Indian firms during this coronavirus period when valuations are very low. As you imagine, India is far from being 'iron bros' with China and despite this, Chinese firms are investing in the financial and digital space.

In your mind, I am sure that whatever you feel is bad in Pakistan must also be equally bad in India (fraud in Pakistan, so there must be equal or greater fraud in India) and thus you are unable to either clinically diagnose the problem or generate solutions. And thus get baffled when you cannot synthesize why investment happens in India and not in Pakistan. The easy solution is thus to blame the Indians/Jews/enemy of the day for preventing investment in Pakistan.

I live in the 'west' and I am yet to see an Indian executive (by passport or of origin) saying 'lets not expand and earn money in Pakistan because its Pakistan'. I don't expect to change minds on the internet. Certainly not of those who like to blame Indians and Jews for 99% of their problems in life.
 
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