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BJP to alter Article 35A on permanent residents in J&K?

I work in a field where each word of mine is scrutinized and dissected and attacked by a fraternity of very highly educated international professionals.

Don't think we Sanghis are worms either.
I don't want to brag but looking how obvious your logical fallacies are, I can only make 2 conclusions.
1. You are a dumb secular.
2. You are a smart fellow as you claim & are intentionally diverting to everything but a straight answer.
 
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I do believe you either did not absorb what I wrote or are putting words in my mouth.

Kindly re-read my statement. It's very clear.

I work in a field where each word of mine is scrutinized and dissected and attacked by a fraternity of very highly educated international professionals.

I do not use words lightly. Even on an overkill platform like PDF.

Cheers, Doc

You want to play with words so this is your statement

And I know which party is definitely not secular.

Which means I know which party does not get my vote.

You are saying BJP is definitely not secular that is why it does not get your vote. Ergo there is/are party(s) who do get your vote because they are secular. Until and unless you say you dont vote or vote for NOTA.

So if BJP does not get your votes because it is definitely Not secular which party gets your votes because it is secular?
 
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I do believe you either did not absorb what I wrote or are putting words in my mouth.

Kindly re-read my statement. It's very clear.

I work in a field where each word of mine is scrutinized and dissected and attacked by a fraternity of very highly educated international professionals.

I do not use words lightly. Even on an overkill platform like PDF.

Cheers, Doc

The intent and gist of your statement was as clear as mud. Now don't hide behind the legal verbiage. I am not going to sue you.:D
 
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Don't think we Sanghis are worms either.
I don't want to brag but looking how obvious your logical fallacies are, I can only make 2 conclusions.
1. You are a dumb secular.
2. You are a smart fellow as you claim & are intentionally diverting to everything but a straight answer.

Pheku, unlike some other vitriolic vermin, I have not yet put you on ignore.

I do not know why.

Maybe I enjoy looking at you flapping around from one thread to another in your sanghi 5 paise army impression of our Chinese friends.

But no offense, I find your intellect very mediocre.

Hence the recent absence of direct engagement.

Nothing personal ...

Cheers, Doc

You want to play with words so this is your statement



You are saying BJP is definitely not secular that is why it does not get your vote. Ergo there is/are party(s) who do get your vote because they are secular. Until and unless you say you dont vote or vote for NOTA.

So if BJP does not get your votes because it is definitely Not secular which party gets your votes because it is secular?

To be honest, I do not yet know.

But I do know that the BJP will not get my vote.

That's the best I can do for now, mid 2017 ....

Cheers, Doc
 
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Pheku, unlike some other vitriolic vermin, I have not yet put you on ignore.

I do not know why.

Maybe I enjoy looking at you flapping around from one thread to another in your sanghi 5 paise army impression of our Chinese friends.

But no offense, I find your intellect very mediocre.

Hence the recent absence of direct engagement.

Nothing personal ...

Cheers, Doc



To be honest, I do not yet know.

But I do know that the BJP will not get my vote.

That's the best I can do for now, mid 2017 ....

Cheers, Doc
In your liberal echo chambers you may not find much "debae" but if out here you put on your ideas be there to defend them also. none of us here are illiterate morons.

We dont have a problem if you say BJP is not secular. But the way you are implying is that others are better becaue they are secular to a greatere degree. Please name these parties
 
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Depends on how Govt chooses to place it.
If it's not placed as constitutional amendment, a simple majority would do.

Eventually, either way, this will be decided in SC by constitutional bench.

Courts can only interpret the law and cannot make/amend the law.

Only Parliament can decide on scrapping Article 370: Supreme Court
Petitioner requested the court to make all laws valid for J&K

Written by Utkarsh Anand | New Delhi | Updated: December 25, 2015 10:14 pm

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PIL petitioner B P Yadav, a lawyer based in Andhra Pradesh, argued that the issue required interference by the Supreme Court but the bench turned down his plea. (Express Photo by Amit Mehra)

Days after the J&K High Court observed that Article 370 is a “permanent” provision of the Constitution, the Supreme Court Friday said that only Parliament can take a call on scrapping Article 370 that accords special autonomous status to Jammu and Kashmir.

Refusing to entertain a PIL that wanted Article 370 removed from the Constitution, a bench led by Chief Justice H L Dattu said that the court cannot issue such directives. “Will it be done by the court or by Parliament? Can we ask Parliament to delete a provision from the Constitution? It is not for this court to do so,” observed the bench, also comprising Justice Amitava Roy.

PIL petitioner B P Yadav, a lawyer based in Andhra Pradesh, argued that the issue required interference by the Supreme Court but the bench turned down his plea. “We can strike down a provision if it is unconstitutional but we cannot be asking Parliament to remove a provision. It has to be done by them (Parliament),” said the bench as it asked Yadav to file a better petition if he intends to pursue this matter any further.

Yadav, in his petition, had requested the court to quash Article 370 and make all laws, which are applicable to other states, also valid for Jammu and Kashmir. The plea also sought direction for removal of the words “except Jammu and Kashmir” from all the pertinent statutes where laws are made applicable to all other states and union territories.

According to Yadav, Article 370 and the consequent Presidential Order abridge the Constitutional scheme and also violate Part III, which relates to the fundamental rights of people and comprises the basic structure. He pointed out that Article 370 has been titled as a “temporary provision” that makes it amply clear that it had to go after some time.

Earlier this month, the J&K High Court had observed that notwithstanding its title “temporary provision”, Article 370 is a permanent provision of the Constitution. “It cannot be abrogated, repealed or even amended as mechanism provided under Clause (3) of Article 370 is no more available,” the court observed in its judgment on a case challenging the reservation benefit in promotions to the employees.

Noting that Article 35A protected the existing laws of the state, the High Court said that Jammu and Kashmir had retained limited sovereignty while acceding to the Dominion of India, and did not merge with the Dominion of India like the other princely states that signed the Instrument of Accession.

It said that the Constituent Assembly of 1957 was empowered to recommend to the President that Article 370 be declared to cease to be operative or operate only with the exceptions and modifications, but it did not make such a recommendation before its dissolution on January 25, 1957. It had added Article 370 embodied “conceptual framework of relationship” between the Union of India and J&K.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ecide-on-scrapping-article-370-supreme-court/
 
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The intent and gist of your statement was as clear as mud. Now don't hide behind the legal verbiage. I am not going to sue you.:D

Please re-read and quote here.

We can then use that as the basis for further debate.

Cheers, Doc

You want to play with words so this is your statement



You are saying BJP is definitely not secular that is why it does not get your vote. Ergo there is/are party(s) who do get your vote because they are secular. Until and unless you say you dont vote or vote for NOTA.

So if BJP does not get your votes because it is definitely Not secular which party gets your votes because it is secular?

My original statement to you was amply clear.

Please re-read to understand.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Pheku, unlike some other vitriolic vermin, I have not yet put you on ignore.

I do not know why.

Couldn't really care.
Put me on ignore & I will still keep responding to your lies.

Imagine on a public forum on being challenged logically, not responding. Oh I know you think we are all worms, just like how we sanghis think you lot are low life sell outs.

I don't put anyone on ignore. I would debate the stupidest person & change him.. but then we are very different people, aren't we.

Only Parliament can decide on scrapping Article 370: Supreme Court
Petitioner requested the court to make all laws valid for J&K

Read the whole article buddy :)

Not everything that parliament changes is a "constitutional change".
Even a presidential order is considered through parliament & opinion is 370 can be changed by a simple presidential order.
 
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It's a classic secular strategy.
They are very similar to Mr Kejriwal, who incidentally is struggling to prove his statements against Jaitley in court and is literally on his knees.

Similarly, every secular fails the "logical test". Their only answer to any question us "communals" pose is that "you also do it"....
Yeah, they have similar IQ as a retarded monkey and it shows in their posts.

For the record, I have never been a member of any party or organization.

I had voted for Indira in the 1970s, TDP in the 80s, BJP in the 90s. I switched whenever there was a better alternative that served my interests.
 
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Why don't you elaborate where your statement falls or why don't you be direct rather than beating around the bush?

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One of the problems with Seculars is their misplaced belief that they are intellectuals and Sanghis are morons.

For the record, I have never been a member of any party or organization.

I had voted for Indira in the 1970s, TDP in the 80s, BJP in the 90s. I switched whenever there was a better alternative that served my interests.

Only way to go about it.
I was a communist when in college.
Hated Modi & BJP to hilt just out of college. Once I got a job and got exposed to the real world, I realized the best option is the one serving YOUR interests at that point of time.

Right now, it's Modi & BJP. If some other party caters to my needs & interests better in future, I will kick BJP out of my preference and choose them.
 
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35-A followed by 370. All these need to be removed from the constitution

I am waiting for the day when BJP has majority in RS. Right now it is the only hurdle against BJP's plans

@padamchen @The_Showstopper @Guynextdoor2 your comments on BJP getting majority in both LS and RS along with majority of the state govts + President, Vice President and PM
Just wanted to correct you here... BJP has become the largest party in RS and not a majority.
 
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Mufti's party has a stated position of shielding the separatists.

BJP as a party has a stated position of being against separatists.

But how is this related to BJP ruling the state in coalition with PDP ?

Same is true for BJP partnership with JD, Shiv sena, Akali Dal, TDP etc.

They are all separate parties with separate point of views about different things. That does not stop anyone from forming a govt. by coming together ins a split mandate. Especially since the CONSTITUTION Of INDIA allows it.


How on earth does this make BJP = CONgress ? :cheesy:

or Modi = Hitler for that matter :lol:


There are no double standards here, only practical politics as permitted under the Law and constitution of India.


Maybe you are stupid enough not to understand this simple reality, but the public of India understands this very well.
Yeah man everything is perfectly fine. When BJP comes to power. They can group up with any separatist for power. It is perfectly ok Bhakt logic:lol:
 
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Yeah man everything is perfectly fine. When BJP comes to power. They can group up with any separatist for power. It is perfectly ok Bhakt logic:lol:

The objective of Politics IS the pursuit of power you Moron :lol:

Accumulation of power to do public good.

And for that End, any means under the LAW is Justified and acceptable.

This is true for not only BJP, but for every other party in the WORLD.

Maybe its not "ok" by Madrassa jihadi "logic" :cheesy: , but this is ok by EVERY other political playbook of the world.
 
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