BJP leader compares Mughal emperor Akbar with Hitler, becomes social media joke

[Samlee]

Yes. It was a simple arrangement. Give one Hindu princely lady to the Mughal harem and accept servitude. Most of the Mughal kings themselves had Rajput ex Hindu (converted) mothers. We know this. People go to great extents to save their lives. You wouldn't know.

Why don't you then join the Indian Armed Forces in exchange for land in India and prestige? You wouldn't. Because you are a free man. If I had a gun on your head (or your family's), and the power to exterminate you - then you would have considered such a proposal.

Understand how the dynamics work.

You Pakistani Muslims are far too apologetic. We are not crazed lunatics because Muslims butchered our men, ransacked our temples and raped our women till two hundred years ago. We are not after revenge, nor to right 'wrongs'. In fact our Hyderabadis and Moplah Muslims take pride in the number of Hindus they slayed post war. Why take away their 'pride'?

You Seem To Have A Habit Of Looking At The Glass Half Empty.If The Rajputs Were So Afraid of And So Submissive to Akbar He Did Not Have To Make Any Concessions.Why Did He Then Go Great Lengths To Appease Hindus So Much So As To Comprimise His Core Islamic Beliefs with Din e Ilahi and Alienate His Muslim Constituency.Hazrat Mujadid e Alf e Sani Wrote Letters to Both Emperors Akbar and Jahangir As Well As Mughal Nobility Complaining Of Hindu Bahviour He Clearly Mentions Multiple Instances Of Hindu Brahmins Destroying Forcefully Converting Mosques Into Temples.

If Rajputs Were Unwilling Scared Subjects Than Logic Would Dictate That They Would Support The First Instance Of Hindu Uprising.When The Marhatas and Jats Revolted Against Aurangzeb We See That The Rajputs Were Not Siding With Their Hindu Bretheren But Were Leading Armies Of Aurangzeb Under Their King Maharaj Jeay Singh

Yes I Know You Are Not A Crazed Lunatic But Such One Sided Interpretations and Cherry Picking Of Historical Texts Provides Easy Fodder For Those Who Are


I Will Answer Your Remaining Post Later Just A Little Busy Now Might Be Gone From PDF For A Few Days

I Will Leave You With This:

"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated." --De Lacy O'Leary, ISLAM AT THE CROSSROADS, London, 1923, p. 8.

By going through your post i realized that your not reader of history

You given example of battle to compare are planned massacre i know what your source is (Facebook)

There is major difference btw both

The Battle of Kalinga fought btw magadha & kalinga

Where battle took place on the ground
As for the casualties the ashoka army was suffered similar fate more that 1 lakh troops slaughtered by kalinga guerrillas army

You Wanted Asoka to Do A Planned Massacre Here You Go

Ashokavadana ("Illustrious Acts of Ashoka") tells such a story


"At that time, an incident occurred which greatly enraged the king. A follower of the Nirgrantha (Mahavira) painted a picture, showing Buddha prostrating himself at the feet of the Nirgrantha. Ashoka ordered all the Ajivikas of Pundravardhana (North Bengal) to be killed. In one day, eighteen thousand Ajivikas lost their lives. A similar kind of incident took place in the town of Pataliputra. A man who painted such a picture was burnt alive with his family. It was announced that whoever would bring the king the head of a Nirgrantha would be rewarded with a dinara (a gold coin). As a result of this, thousands of Nirgranthas lost their lives." (S. Mukhopadhyaya: The Ashokavadana, Sahitya Akademi, Delhi 1963, p.xxxvii; in footnote, Mukhopadhyaya correctly notes that the author "seems to have confused the Nirgranthas with the Ajivikas", a similar ascetic sect; Nirgrantha, "freed from fetters", meaning Jain) Only when Vitashoka, Ashoka's favourite Arhat (an enlightened monk, a Theravada-Buddhist saint), was mistaken for a Nirgran- tha and killed by a man desirous of the reward, did Ashoka revoke the order.

 

[Nimitam]

LOL...... that is the problem with propaganda. It is not rooted in FACTS.

1. Most of the source of this Propaganda is the Buddhist text "Divyavadana" which gives highly exaggerated account of Buddhism in India. The text itself is a compilation of Jain and Hindu literature and a healthy dose of dramatic flair for impact.

The entire book is an account of the various "magical" events during Buddha's various lives. and traces buddha's reincarnation over centuries ..... that is how reliable this book is.

NO serious historian considers this book to be a serious account of history.

2. The account of Taranatha's history of Buddhism is again just a translation of Divyavadana into Tibetian so he just faithfully translates the texts. he himself does not give any due importance to this text and does not even mention it in his own Autobiography.

3. Pusyamitra Sunga was a general who took power from his Buddhist king by assassinating him (Maurya empire) so he in all probability cut of state funding to Buddhist monasteries and reverting the state religion back to Hinduism and provided state patronage to Hindu orders.

There is no evidence of any persecution in any record other than fantasy called Divyavadana. The very fact that Buddhism came back and flourished in the Kushanas and the Shaka empire immediately after the sunga empire is proof enough that there was no active prosecution.

4. Hiuen-Tsang, who visited India from 629 to 645 AD, talks about killing of 8000 JAIN munis, not buddhists Most of south India was under Jain kings control back then.

5. Mihirakula mentioned in the Rajataringini was an Afghan atheist who invaded India and massacred civilians. He was most certainly not inspired by Hinduism and in fact he was defeated and driven back by Hindu Kings Yasodharman and Narasimhagupta Baladitya. He prosecuted Buddhists because they supported his brother when he captured power in his kingdom when he was in India.

6. ........ I can go on and on refuting his rubbish propaganda ...... but it is meaningless. I hope Indians here gets the gist.

 

[Samlee]

LOL...... that is the problem with propaganda. It is not rooted in FACTS.

1. Most of the source of this Propaganda is the Buddhist text "Divyavadana" which gives highly exaggerated account of Buddhism in India. The text itself is a compilation of Jain and Hindu literature and a healthy dose of dramatic flair for impact.

The entire book is an account of the various "magical" events during Buddha's various lives. and traces buddha's reincarnation over centuries ..... that is how reliable this book is.

NO serious historian considers this book to be a serious account of history.

2. The account of Taranatha's history of Buddhism is again just a translation of Divyavadana into Tibetian so he just faithfully translates the texts. he himself does not give any due importance to this text and does not even mention it in his own Autobiography.


3. Pusyamitra Sunga was a general who took power from his Buddhist king by assassinating him (Maurya empire) so he in all probability cut of state funding to Buddhist monasteries and reverting the state religion back to Hinduism and provided state patronage to Hindu orders.

There is no evidence of any persecution in any record other than fantasy called Divyavadana. The very fact that Buddhism came back and flourished in the Kushanas and the Shaka empire immediately after the sunga empire is proof enough that there was no active prosecution.

Denial Is An Incurable Disease.Not Worth My Bandwith To Answer Your Rubbish

4. Hiuen-Tsang, who visited India from 629 to 645 AD, talks about killing of 8000 JAIN munis, not buddhists Most of south India was under Jain kings control back then..

Hiuen-Tsang Specifically Mentions Murder of 8000 Buddhist Monks Among Other Persecutions.The Pandyan King Nemudaran Pandya Was A Jain By Birth But Was Converted To Shaivite Hinduism By His Wife Who Was A Chola Princess(Cholas Were Shaivite Hindus) Under His Influence Persecution of Buddhists As Well As Jains Started.

5. Mihirakula mentioned in the Rajataringini was an Afghan atheist who invaded India and massacred civilians. He was most certainly not inspired by Hinduism and in fact he was defeated and driven back by Hindu Kings Yasodharman and Narasimhagupta Baladitya. He prosecuted Buddhists because they supported his brother when he captured power in his kingdom when he was in India.

He Was Very Much A Shaivite Hindu and Patron of Hinduism

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Mihirakula

Also In The Rajatarangini



“The impression which this tradition retained of Mihirakula’s religious propensities, is in full accord with the evidence of his coins which, in the emblems of bull and trident and in the legends of jayatu vrsa, jayatu vrsadhvaja, display a distinct leaning towards Shaivism.”

[Rajatarangini; M. A. Stein; Footnote to I, 289]

Brahmins eagerly accepted grants of land from Mihirakula.


“Brahmins from Gandhara, resembling himself in their habits and verily themselves the lowest of the twice-born, accepted Agraharas from him.”

[Rajatarangini I, 307; M. A. Stein]

6. ........ I can go on and on refuting his rubbish propaganda ...... but it is meaningless. I hope Indians here gets the gist.

Yes Muslims Are Wretched Scoundrels For Whom Evil Is Second Nature and Hindus Are Innocent Angels Completely Incapable of Sin Happy Now

 

[cloud_9]

Sure!Akbar was responsible for Aurangzeb's birth.

 

[livingdead]

sanghis write their own history....

 

[livingdead]

From New York Times...

Population Control, Marauder Style

Last week, the United Nations announced that the world’s population had reached seven billion, but there have been times when it headed in the opposite direction, and not in pleasant ways. The savagery of the Mongol conqueror Genghis Khan may have culled the global population by about 11 percent; two bloody upheavals in China — the An Lushan Rebellion and the collapse of the Xin Dynasty — each may have felled about 6 percent of humanity. Those are but 3 of the 100 worst atrocities in history, as cataloged by Matthew White in “The Great Big Book of Horrible Things,” an amusing (really) account of the murderous ways of despots, slave traders, blundering royals, gladiators and assorted hordes. Estimating the tolls from such horrors is an inexact science, given war’s nature and the mysteries of antiquity. The deadliest “multicides” are more plentiful in recent centuries, given that there were more people to kill and better ways to kill them on a grand scale. Even so, killings as a percentage of all humanity are probably declining. Here is a look at the sweep of human brutality presented in a timeline.


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It was mentioned that Aurangzeb was responsible for deaths of 4.6 million people...

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/11/06/opinion/06atrocities_timeline.html?version=meter+at+1&contentId=&mediaId=&referrer=https://www.google.co.in/&priority=true&action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=RelatedCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article

what has akbar got to do with it....

 

[for truth]

what has akbar got to do with it....

not much, but since the topic had now shifted to Islamic rulers in India, i posted this..

 

[Perpendicular]