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Bharati Hindus Move to Next Level of Vilification of Tableeghi Jamat Members

You didn't comment a word about propaganda against TJ by Hindus

Areesh bhai, I have said in other threads over the last two days or so that the TJ movement, which has seen a popularity over the last 15 years, is a bunch of misguided souls who are embarrassing Islam.

Decades of Progressive work done by people like Nasser and the good name earned by them is being undone by the TJ.

Tell me, an intelligent revolutionary like Carlos worked for the Palestine cause. Would he have done so if the Palestinians were purely TJ ??
 
Then Pakistan is no less racist. And the biggest victim of racism are Urdu speaking people living in Karachi aka Mohajirs. The are called as 'Bhaiyas', Kallu and other pejorative terms. ]

Lol my ancestors were from uttar pradesh and Bombay. I'm so lucky they left for Pakistan, I cannot imagine the pain I would be going through had they not moved.

Maybe there are few racist clowns in Pakistan, but they are equal in Karachi as well. Racists are everywhere.
 
@jamahir I kindly ask you not to let a Hindu make you fight a fellow Muslim brother. This is their famous tactic. Indian Muslim are our brothers and sisters, we have no malice against your community.

@Areesh brother is not a racist, he is just replying in kind to Hindutva trolls in the language they understand.

Recently Hindus on this forum have gone out of control with their trolling and abuse.

Have sympathy for neither of the parties. More and more members of Tableeghi Jamat are being tested to be positive here in Pakistan.

There is alot of negative sentiment against Tabligh in Pakistan from certain people, pls be cautious. Many of them are professionals in daily lives and patriots. Amir of Raiwind who passed away a few years back sat with me some time ago and I was suprised at what an intellectual giant he was about nearly every subject imaginable.

Its very astonishing to see propaganda against Tableeghi jamaat in both India and Pakistan. Looks like certain section in both countries not happy with the amount of work they did in spreading Islam

They are doing good work. In Pakistan they have obeyed the government, unlike other groups.
 
@jamahir I kindly ask you not to let a Hindu make you fight a fellow Muslim brother. This is their famous tactic. Indian Muslim are our brothers and sisters, we have no malice against your community.

@Areesh brother is not a racist, he is just replying in kind to Hindutva trolls in the language they understand.

Recently Hindus on this forum have gone out of control with their trolling and abuse.

Thanks for the advise. And I understand the need for it. But my feeling is that @Balbir is not a Hindutva troll. I have seen enough on PDF. Many of them are banned. :)

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan, and thanks for your solidarity for Indian Muslims.
 
Thanks for the advise. And I understand the need for it. But my feeling is that @Balbir is not a Hindutva troll. I have seen enough on PDF. Many of them are banned. :)

@Areesh is defending Indian Muslims from slander of these Hindu trolls, and here you are joining them. Please step aside brother.

You are not an excellent judge, @Balbir is definately another ID we have seen before comjng in a new mask.

Kindly relax with your judgements on Pakistanis and don't defend Indian Hindu bigots who abuse Muslims.

We have no ill will towards any Indian Muslim, ever. We cannot even imagine it.

I disagree with many of your political and religious opinions, but you are my brother Muslim regardless, and I value your input on the challenges of your community. We need people like you around to educate the world about what is happening in India. @xeuss also. I wish we get more Indian Muslims on this forum.

I wish you all the best, may Allah swt continue to bless and protect you and your families.
 
Areesh bhai, I have said in other threads over the last two days or so that the TJ movement, which has seen a popularity over the last 15 years, is a bunch of misguided souls who are embarrassing Islam.

Decades of Progressive work done by people like Nasser and the good name earned by them is being undone by the TJ.

Tell me, an intelligent revolutionary like Carlos worked for the Palestine cause. Would he have done so if the Palestinians were purely TJ ??

You don't like TJ because they are religious and are in many cases from lower social classes of the society

There is no genuine or reasonable reason for your dislike for them

Socialism is dead practically but you want to stick to it till a hindu mob would come barging in your home one day. They won't care whether you are a capitalist muslim or socialist or anything else. They won't ask your political ideology before burning you alive

You are living in delusions that lead you to hate other muslims about how they look like and how they live. That is why you have no problem in joining hindus in propaganda against them

That is why I say you are of no use for Indian muslims. In fact you are complacent in their massacre and pogroms like the recent one in Delhi is your responsibility too
 
That letter was written by the Chief Medical Officer of the hospital where the TJ members are quarantined. This was not written by some BJP or RSS member. If they have written such a letter then there must be some truth in it which must be investigated.

Shame on all those who are supporting them here despite not even knowing what actually happened. If some stranger starting roaming around naked in front of your mothers or sisters, how would you feel ? Shamless idiots.

You are right, the letter was written by the Ghaziabad CMO. But that does not mean he could not be a BJP or RSS member. As I said, the rot in the community is so deep that it would not be beyond these rascals to fabricate such lies.

Moreover, his claims have not been verified by any other hospital staff.

Those who know Tableeghi Jamaatis, know that these people are the most pacifist, the most respectful and do not even look at a woman that is not related to them.

They are nothing like the Hindu sadhus that roam around naked in the country with no shame, exposing their tiny little nothings.
 
Everything is falling in places...this hatred and vilification campaign against Muslims is good, better still against the Tableeghi Jamaat.

More no holds barred hate campaign against Indian Muslims will make them wake up to the realization and throwaway the 'we can still make it through' ideas in India.

The extremist rightist Hindutva will give rise to a more radical Islam...for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And with the shape of things to come this all looked like what is prophecised and predicted...planned and doable.
 
@jamahir Their tactic is to use Tabligh to tarnish all Indian Muslims, the target is not Tablighis but all of you.

These people are so clever. We must educate the world about what they are trying to do. Modi and Yogi are making a pandemic a communal issue to put further restrictions on Muslims and incite violence.

These people are not human beings anymore.
 
@jamahir Their tactic is to use Tabligh to tarnish all Indian Muslims, the target is not Tablighis but all of you.

These people are so clever. We must educate the world about what they are trying to do. Modi and Yogi are making a pandemic a communal issue to put further restrictions on Muslims and incite violence.

These people are not human beings anymore.

Precisely! This is the latest from India:

https://www.newsclick.in/COVID-19-Muslims-UP-Harassment-Despite-Link-Tablighi-Gathering
 
Obviously Chief Medical Officer himself can't be a hindu bigot in a society that lives and breaths on bigotry
By that definition, only God can convince you. The truth is that jamatis misbehaved with nurses.
 
You are right, the letter was written by the Ghaziabad CMO. But that does not mean he could not be a BJP or RSS member. As I said, the rot in the community is so deep that it would not be beyond these rascals to fabricate such lies.

Moreover, his claims have not been verified by any other hospital staff.

Those who know Tableeghi Jamaatis, know that these people are the most pacifist, the most respectful and do not even look at a woman that is not related to them.

They are nothing like the Hindu sadhus that roam around naked in the country with no shame, exposing their tiny little nothings.

Not everything written down on a piece of paper makes it factual, and not every titleholder who makes statements means he speaks the truth.

Just look back at the colorful, primitive vocabulary of the PM of India, and his threats and hate-mongering throughout his political career.

In the US even, look how many court proceedings are against the Trump administration for lies and manipulations.

Tabligh Jamaat are not a centralized organization, each operate independently at the discretion of their local emir. Most also spurn politics and concentrate on bringing people to masajid, personal zikr, and elating virtues of Islamic history and personalities. They are very simple, bare-bones, easy to understand religious group which hopes to strengrhen faith among relapsed Muslims or prevent Muslims from lapsing.

They even avoid controversial subjects which most other groups feel gives them intellectual prowess and which some groups spend their lives trying to convince others they are wrong.

These allegations make absolutely no sense. It goes against everything Islam teaches.

Everything is falling in places...this hatred and vilification campaign against Muslims is good, better still against the Tableeghi Jamaat.

More no holds barred hate campaign against Indian Muslims will make them wake up to the realization and throwaway the 'we can still make it through' ideas in India.

The extremist rightist Hindutva will give rise to a more radical Islam...for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And with the shape of things to come this all looked like what is prophecised and predicted...planned and doable.

Indian Muslims and Bangladeshis are much more active in Dawat than are Pakistanis. Tabligh is much more popular there. I have met many beautiful people from those countries doing great dawat in the US.

I am not Tablighi, but I do respect them. In addition to my secular professional life, I am more involved in Deobandi thought which I feel is more about fiqh issues and political.

Here in Pakistan, Deobandi groups form the bulk of dawat and khatiras, the discourse is usually much deeper and dealing with more controversial issues and political problems. Maybe this is the result of having freedom in an Islamic nation.

Both societies face different challenges, but I think most Pakistanis stay with Tabligh in some part of their lives for spiritual brotherhood and to be around pious people.
 

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