Best fighter jet in the future?

[xMustiiej70]

Avionics of the f35 are the best.
better then f22 these are said by those industries that made these aircraft.
but I agree.
f35 will be overall better but f22 will win in air to air.
But remember theres always anti air ships and anti air missiles and stuff.
To take down a airplane theres not only air to air needed.
While air to ground is the only option to attack ground from air.
Airplanes.
So f35 will be better in my eyes.
well atleast most usefull for most countries such as Turkey.
Lets hope turkey gets typhoon for defence air to air.

 

[Kinetic]

America didn't wanted to sale F-22 to even UK, Japan and Australia. They created a low cost 5th generation fighter named F-35 which it can share with others. Its capabilities are far less than that of F-22. No comparison.

 

[amalakas]

well atleast most usefull for most countries such as Turkey.
Lets hope turkey gets typhoon for defence air to air.

The F35 will be useful for countries such as Turkey ? Really ? Why ?
Do you plan to launch stealth attacks on anyone ?
And why do you need the Typhoon ? I thought you were surrounded by allies...unless you need to have a stand -off with Russia !!!
Why would Turkey need these planes ... i wonder !!!

 

[Jigs]

The F35 will be useful for countries such as Turkey ? Really ? Why ?
Do you plan to launch stealth attacks on anyone ?
And why do you need the Typhoon ? I thought you were surrounded by allies...unless you need to have a stand -off with Russia !!!
Why would Turkey need these planes ... i wonder !!!

We are in a hot region and a member of NATO nothing wrong with keeping up to date on the next gen stuff. Is it wrong to have better capability over others ? The Typhoon is a great for an Air to air role and a workhorse aircraft but we might order more F-35s instead. Both are great aircraft though quite different in a number of key areas.

 

[Jigs]

but also not rely on us airplanes is also a good point.
and other expriences for the pilots to fly an other plane is also a good thing.
so i say order some 150 f35 and about 90 typhoon.
we just can blitzkrieg the **** out of greece.

I wish we had the budget for such a large purchase but currently we don't. Maybe in the future we will get typhoons but currently the order is 116 F-35s depending on how every goes. Plus that should be enough against anyone in the region.

 

[Parashuram1]

oh yeh mate check this out :

PAK-FA, F-35, F-22 and ?Capability Surprise?

Assessing the Sukhoi PAK-FA / ????????????? ??????????? ???????? ????????? ???????

Friend, I would honestly suggest you not to quote from that site because for some reason that is not understandable to me, Australian government is needlessly spending sleepless nights thinking about how even the current 4.5th generation Sukhoi fighters of Malaysia and Indonesia will be able to destroy their 5th generation fleet of F-35. I know that security of any country is top priority, but paranoia of dissatisfaction is also another thing.

There is a reason why the JSF is called a next generation fighter--to be superior to current generation of fighters that form an air force's backbone. Australia is also the third-only country in Asia Pacific to access the JSF and 4th only to access a 5th generation stealth fighter.

I don't see how these complaints by Australian authorities against the JSF seem to have any point other than pressuring the United States to sell them the Raptors. And for some reason I don't understand why Australians are worried about the PAK FA-- a fighter jet that would be owned by two countries that are thousands of miles away from Australian territory and have absolutely no disputes with Canberra.

Neither Russia nor India pose any threat to Australia in any way and just as the Raptor is being limited to United States, I am sure that both Moscow and New Delhi would prefer to retain the fighter by committing large numbers of procurements to retain the edge in Asia and Eurasia.

The JSF is an excellent fighter for homeland defense and a potent multi-role fighter. Australia already being one of the most advanced air forces in their region, should be least worried about a Malaysian or Indonesian attack on their land; unless of course something unknown to the world, is brewing between the island countries down Under.

 

[Parashuram1]

oh yeh mate check this out :

PAK-FA, F-35, F-22 and ?Capability Surprise?

Assessing the Sukhoi PAK-FA / ????????????? ??????????? ???????? ????????? ???????

Friend, I would honestly suggest you not to quote from that site because for some reason that is not understandable to me, Australian government is needlessly spending sleepless nights thinking about how even the current 4.5th generation Sukhoi fighters of Malaysia and Indonesia will be able to destroy their 5th generation fleet of F-35. I know that security of any country is top priority, but paranoia of dissatisfaction is also another thing. There is a reason why the JSF is called a next generation fighter--to be superior to current generation of fighters that form an air force's backbone.

I don't see how these complaints by Australian authorities against the JSF seem to have any point other than pressuring the United States to sell them the Raptors. And for some reason I don't understand why Australians are worried about the PAK FA-- a fighter jet that would be owned by two countries that are thousands of miles away from Australian territory and have absolutely no disputes with Canberra.

Neither Russia nor India pose any threat to Australia in any way and just as the Raptor is being limited to United States, I am sure that both Moscow and New Delhi would prefer to retain the fighter by committing large numbers of procurements to retain the edge in Asia and Eurasia rather than sell them like hot cakes to third parties.

The JSF is an excellent fighter for homeland defense and a potent multi-role fighter. Australia already being one of the most advanced air forces in their region, should be least worried about a Malaysian or Indonesian attack on their land; unless of course something unknown to the world, is brewing between the island countries down Under and Australia intends to hold long range bomb runs.


My personal choice as a Swiss for future homeland defense fighter would be the Swedish Gripen NG the one that is offered to you people currently---- an excellent multirole platform with effective combat capability and decent radius.

 

[nightrider_saulat]

typhoon will be the most comman fighter in mid eastern and european countries
and quite probably in turkish,indian air forces too

 

[Jackal]

same jobs in different ways.
then tell me which one is the best?

Best? Well, let me ask you something;

-Would you go for high cost with the F-22-maintaining it, flying it etc, putting faith in its "stealth" capabilities while flying & supposedly "not being seen" but having a thought in the back of your mind that says; 'Have I been spotted?' while flying your mission, if that happens then theres a good chance you'll be in a bit of bother.

Or...

-Would you go for a low cost (compared to the F-22), low cost maintenance, and fight your fights at a safe ditance. If something goes wrong then theres a good chance of turning around & running back hope & have a more of a chance fighting another day. (imo).

Both of these airplanes do what they were designed to do fantastically, its just a matter of taking your pick & going for the choice of doing things the way you think suites you most. Personally I'd go for the Typhoon, I'd just feel that much safer fighting at a distance and not have to worry about getting too close while trying to sneak up on them.

 

[gambit]

Best? Well, let me ask you something;

-Would you go for high cost with the F-22-maintaining it, flying it etc, putting faith in its "stealth" capabilities...

There is no 'faith' about it. By the time you spent your money, you will KNOW that 'stealth' is real.

...while flying & supposedly "not being seen" but having a thought in the back of your mind that says; 'Have I been spotted?' while flying your mission, if that happens then theres a good chance you'll be in a bit of bother.

If you do have that thought, you might want to find the radar warning receiver control panel and change its mode to 'ON'. The radar warning receiver set is supposed to alert you if there are any seeking radar transmissions in the area. But only if it is powered up and working.

 

[amalakas]

There is no 'faith' about it. By the time you spent your money, you will KNOW that 'stealth' is real.

Here we go again. Gambit, with all due respect, stealth is not real. It is a very conditional state, that can change at (potentialy) any given moment. You yourself, have posted a number of times on how stealth works. What if some people someplace decide they don't want expensive stealth planes but rather appropriate radars using bands that can pick up stealth planes. Will your favorite LM start designing the new F22 ( now invisible to these radar bands!!! sounds like a cheap TV ad)...

Stealth is good, the F 22 is good, but its not god's gift on earth. It's just a piece of technology and like everything, it'll be surpassed by something.. The US has made an enormous investment on the F22.
Kudos, and I suspect, they didn't do it to overshadow the Russians, but to make sure that all regional low level conflicts will be conducted with extreme air domination by the US with minimal effort and presence. All else is just ... for fun boys.

 

[Kompromat]

F-22 is and will remain dominant bird in the the sky.

There is no match for its Stealth design , RAM , Avionics , EW and surviveability.

T-50 costs 100 Million less than F-22 & if someone says that It is still on par with F-22 then i must say that this thinking is idiotic.

 

[gambit]

Here we go again. Gambit, with all due respect, stealth is not real.

Yes it is.

It is a very conditional state, that can change at (potentialy) any given moment.

So? Until it change, meaning someone can come up with a credible counter, we have the advantage. A gross advantage.

You yourself, have posted a number of times on how stealth works.

Yes I have.

What if some people someplace decide they don't want expensive stealth planes but rather appropriate radars using bands that can pick up stealth planes. Will your favorite LM start designing the new F22 ( now invisible to these radar bands!!! sounds like a cheap TV ad)...

Think what you just wrote. Think reeeeaaaal hard with some reasoning. I give you two examples: the B-58 and the SR-71. One was defeated and one never has been defeated. The two examples have nothing to do with 'stealth' but with the reasoning behind the highlighted above.

 

[T-Faz]

How much is this F-22 anyway, I am thinking of buying one.

 

[ptldM3]

F-22 is and will remain dominant bird in the the sky.

There is no match for its Stealth design , RAM , Avionics , EW and surviveability.

T-50 costs 100 Million less than F-22 & if someone says that It is still on par with F-22 then i must say that this thinking is idiotic.

Of course the PAK-FA is going to be cheaper, for one, Sukhoi is not a private company like Lockheed, thus the cost will stay down. Second, it will allways be cheaper to produce an aircraft in Russia. In terms of who is better than who, i'll leave that for the 'fan boys'