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Bengali Hindus in Muslim-majority Bangladesh

(For Bangladeshis only) Your opinion about the Hindu Bangladeshis in Muslim majority Bangladesh?


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Hindus in Muslim (educated, rich) Bangladesh has no problem. But in other cases they have problem. Because I have never seen higher lineage Muslims act discrimination against a Hindu. But the neo Muslims converted one-two generation before are the most fandoo and most communal. These are neither Muslim nor Hindu. Siraj ud daula and Ali vardi khan's top position were always filled with Hindus. That too far from Kashmir. And Bengali higher caste Hindus are most enlightened and lower caste Hindus are the most communal. And our family always look down on people who marries Hindus and dont like to keep good relation with them. That too if they convert to Islam. Muslims were few in number before the arrival of British. Due to their reluctance to convert people. But soon after British taken over, the subjugation of British and Brahmins led birth to bulk number of Muslim convert. That time people from other parts of India Hindu Muslims migrated also. And Bengal dramatically changed to become Muslim majority area. Now if those neo Muslims cause trouble for you know this they are your brothers.

And btw Hindus going to India is a cause of discrimination against them then what will you tell Muslims going to India illegally? Doesnt make sense really.

People of better social background tend to be less intolerant towards others, they may keep intolerant views, but seldom go out to riot or harm people physically. In many cases they give tacit support to the lower class people doing the dirty job, or just keep silent while radicals go out on a rampage. That seems to be the case in Bangladesh, and explains the fast and steady decline of the minority population in Bangladesh.

Btw, I thought Islam doesn't approve castes and all Muslims are treated equally, then what is that 'higher lineage Muslims' that you are mentioning?

And would you (or your family) also look down upon any upper caste Hindu converting to Islam and marrying in to your family?

Further, do you think radical views are rising/spreading among the people of Bangladesh?

Lastly, do you think that the minority Hindu Bangladeshis are like sponges, absorbing the discrimination and hatred of the radicals, and also giving Bangladesh a reason to keep some of its secular ideals alive, at least partially? And when they will be gone eventually, the radicals will turn their discrimination and hatred on the non-Sunni minority Muslim sects of Bangladesh, something that is now happening in Pakistan?


You didn't tell me how do you access fb in BD when it is blocked there..:)
 
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living with dignity ?? whics place is that, malda? mushirabad ? or the secular lands of kerala ?? don't you think, Kashmiri Pandits should focus on regaining their dignity, status and property in the srinagar before advising bdeshi hindus.. :enjoy:
There are not many left. I am still in Kashmir. Did not leave my ancestral house in Mattan. :disagree:

My maternal house is lost in Srinagar, but we hope to reclaim it. The Jhelum will have to go red for that. The time will come.
 
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If you are so concerned, then take them. Considering India such a large country and having such a large GDP, I am sure you guys could accommodate a few of them.

Bengali Hindus are treated better than Muslims by the AL regime. In fact AL has specifically put Hindus at top government positions because they are more loyal to AL than Bangladesh. That is why minorities love AL, whereas the majority hates it.

@Rain Man It seems like you just want to put some hatred here. There should have been an additional option such as "they should consider themselves as Bangladeshis not AL supporters".

We are already taking in all the displaced people of Bangladesh since its East Pakistan days! Besides, it is a bogus idea to discriminate or displace people on the basis of their political leaning! That's not the real issue in Bangladesh. The article explains the issues quite well.

Some Bangladeshis are not voting, maybe too shy to express there views!! :)
@extra terrestrial I see you are here, I forgot to tag you. :)

it is open now

I thought you have finally realized that you are not a 'desirable' Bangladeshi, and permanently settled in (West) Bengal. We need truly liberal Muslims to counter the radical narrative of Islam spreading in Bengal.
 
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if we keep welcoming hindus of bangladesh and pakistan then we are helping them in their plight. They should learn to survive on their own.
 
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I thought you have finally realized that you are not a 'desirable' Bangladeshi, and permanently settled in (West) Bengal. We need truly liberal Muslims to counter the radical narrative of Islam spreading in Bengal.
give West Bengal to Bangladesh, we will fix it lol
I know, being bangladeshi migrant to India, you are trying to Fix west bengal and make it real bengal........... OOOppps
your signature is gone :P
 
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give West Bengal to Bangladesh, we will fix it lol
I know, being bangladeshi migrant to India, you are trying to Fix west bengal and make it real bengal........... OOOppps
your signature is gone :P

My signature is temporarily gone, on purpose! :P

my brorher i am complitly aggry with you..............:cheers:

Lives of one crore minorities of Bangladesh is not a matter of joke or trolling, please maintain an environment of constructive discussion here. Please also contribute your views on the topic. :)
 
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If I recall the population of Hindus has not actually dropped in total numbers, the percentage of Muslims just increased.

@bongbang
I do believe you have the graph for this correct?
 
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on my whole life i never really experience bengalis ever really hated anyone bcz of their religion in real life , bengali culture and their mindset more lyk and open minded , bengalis usually get along pretty well with all race and religion , but india should understand that their is more muslims in india than its in pakistan , so do not try to do anythings silly lyk killing people just cz they are slaughtering cow , to you is your religion to me is my religion just keep in that simple , just have respect for each other , otherwise muslim in india will invade india one more time and will become new muslim indian nation for sure , and they will definitely have support of pakistan and bangladesh
 
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@Rain Man I'm not sure what information or opinions you are seeking in this thread as there are countless threads on PDF regarding the Bangladeshi Hindus and I'm seeing the discussion here is heading towards the same direction as other threads. If you really want to know anything, I would recommend to visit Bangladesh and see it for yourself.

From my personal experience, there is a tremendous misconception about Bangladesh among general Indians, in almost every matter. I don't know but perhaps the media is to blame here. The other day, I was touring some of my friends from India on their visit to Dhaka. On our way to Dhaka University campus, they were simply shocked to see the extent and heritage of the Jagannath Hall (residential hall for the non-Muslim students).

I cannot comment on the overall situation in Bangladesh. As far as Dhaka goes, everything is quite fine here. The Saraswati puja is right around the corner and yesterday evening one of my Hindu friends was discussing her preparations. Perhaps the situation is same in the other major cities as well.

Yes, there have been some attacks on Hindus in the rural areas or small towns in recent years. However, I'm not sure if all of them are caused by religious intolerance. The elections in 2014 and its aftermath saw a major wave of attacks on Hindu temples, this is also the period from where the article you posted belong to. I won't call these attacks a manifestation of religious intolerance, rather a political maneuver. Which is why these attacks didn't turn into any massive communal riot, unlike other countries. Still, these attacks are shameful for any nation.

About the migration of Bangladeshi Hindus in India, I doubt there are still any major migrations of Bangladeshis to India at present regardless their religions. There are several stories on the enclave dwellers where many Hindu families decided to stay back in Bangladesh. This only proves that they feel secure in Bangladesh, both financially and socially.
 
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in India, you should be ready for Muslim refugees escaping the commie-Brahmin hell hole called Bangladesh



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Police constable shot dead by miscreants in Midnapore, Bengal
Jan 8, 2016 08:54 IST
#East Midnapore #NewsTracker #Tamluk #West Bengal


Tamluk, West Bengal: A police constable was shot dead by armed miscreants in the Mahishadal area of East Midnapore district on Thursday night, the police said.

Two constables and an Assistant Sub-Inspector were on regular night patrol duty and were checking on some illegal lodges in the Kapas area of Mahishadal after getting a tip-off that some miscreants were hiding in one of the lodges, district Superintendent of Police Alok Rajoria told PTI.


Representational image. AFP

As the team approached a bridge near Kapas, they saw a group roaming near a lodge and stopped them, the SP said.

While questioning, two of the miscreants suddenly ran off, Rajoria said adding, constable Nabakumar Hait(45) managed to intercept the third miscreant.

In the commotion, the fourth miscreant opened fire, which hit the constable near his ear. The gang then fled the spot hurling a couple of bombs, the SP said.

Hait was rushed to Tamluk hospital where he was declared dead on arrival, he said.

Senior police officers have reached the spot and a combing operation was underway to trace the whereabouts of the miscreants, Rajoria added.

PTI


Published on Nov 10, 2015
Mamata Banerjee, Hon'ble CM of West Bengal, you failed to suppress the news of Devi Kalimata's 25 idol breaking in Hooghly district.


You tried your best to hide it. You bullied the local Hindus with your obedient spineless police. Now your characterless police is spreading the concocted nonsense story of rivalry between artists. If this is rivalry, then who did break the Devi Durga idol in the same area, Sodpur village under Purshura PS in Hooghly dist. on 15 October? Who did break the idols of DurgaPuja at Bajepratappur in Bardhaman in the night of 24 October during return procession of Muharram? Were those too all rivalries?

Friends, political parties are deceiving the Hindus. And ultimately they will betray the people like they betrayed in 1947. We, the common Hindus will be the victim. We'll be again refugees like the Kashmiri Hindus.


Awake! Be alert! Save yourself. Nobody will save you.

See the video. Think what to do. Raise your voice of protest.


I KNOW WELL that I will be accused by the perverted seculars as 'communal'. I don't care. I only urge the common people to remember the 1964 episode. The 'hair' of Hazrat Mohammad was stolen from the 'Hazrat Bal Mosque' in Srinagar, Kashmir. That mosque was & is fully manned & protected by the Muslims. In spite of that, there was massive large scale communal riots against innocent Hindus by the fanatic Muslims all over India and in Pakistan. Am I wrong? Now compare their behavior with the behavior, Mamata Banerjee and other political parties expect from the Hindus.

Friends, I am privy of 100-s & 100-s of reports of communal incidents in West Bengal. The bell is quite loud. If you refuse to hear, even God cannot save you.
 
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Police constable shot dead by miscreants in Midnapore, Bengal
Jan 8, 2016 08:54 IST
#East Midnapore #NewsTracker #Tamluk #West Bengal


Tamluk, West Bengal: A police constable was shot dead by armed miscreants in the Mahishadal area of East Midnapore district on Thursday night, the police said.

Two constables and an Assistant Sub-Inspector were on regular night patrol duty and were checking on some illegal lodges in the Kapas area of Mahishadal after getting a tip-off that some miscreants were hiding in one of the lodges, district Superintendent of Police Alok Rajoria told PTI.


Representational image. AFP

As the team approached a bridge near Kapas, they saw a group roaming near a lodge and stopped them, the SP said.

While questioning, two of the miscreants suddenly ran off, Rajoria said adding, constable Nabakumar Hait(45) managed to intercept the third miscreant.

In the commotion, the fourth miscreant opened fire, which hit the constable near his ear. The gang then fled the spot hurling a couple of bombs, the SP said.

Hait was rushed to Tamluk hospital where he was declared dead on arrival, he said.

Senior police officers have reached the spot and a combing operation was underway to trace the whereabouts of the miscreants, Rajoria added.

PTI


Published on Nov 10, 2015
Mamata Banerjee, Hon'ble CM of West Bengal, you failed to suppress the news of Devi Kalimata's 25 idol breaking in Hooghly district.


You tried your best to hide it. You bullied the local Hindus with your obedient spineless police. Now your characterless police is spreading the concocted nonsense story of rivalry between artists. If this is rivalry, then who did break the Devi Durga idol in the same area, Sodpur village under Purshura PS in Hooghly dist. on 15 October? Who did break the idols of DurgaPuja at Bajepratappur in Bardhaman in the night of 24 October during return procession of Muharram? Were those too all rivalries?

Friends, political parties are deceiving the Hindus. And ultimately they will betray the people like they betrayed in 1947. We, the common Hindus will be the victim. We'll be again refugees like the Kashmiri Hindus.


Awake! Be alert! Save yourself. Nobody will save you.

See the video. Think what to do. Raise your voice of protest.


I KNOW WELL that I will be accused by the perverted seculars as 'communal'. I don't care. I only urge the common people to remember the 1964 episode. The 'hair' of Hazrat Mohammad was stolen from the 'Hazrat Bal Mosque' in Srinagar, Kashmir. That mosque was & is fully manned & protected by the Muslims. In spite of that, there was massive large scale communal riots against innocent Hindus by the fanatic Muslims all over India and in Pakistan. Am I wrong? Now compare their behavior with the behavior, Mamata Banerjee and other political parties expect from the Hindus.

Friends, I am privy of 100-s & 100-s of reports of communal incidents in West Bengal. The bell is quite loud. If you refuse to hear, even God cannot save you.

I hope you are not seeking pride in bigotry and vandalism!
 
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Bengali Hindus in Muslim-majority Bangladesh

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The Jamaat-e-Islami, many of whose leaders are charged with war crimes and threatening the life and property of Bengali Hindus, has used its propaganda apparatus to portray itself as a victim of witch-hunting.


The ‘Partition’ was swift and vicious in the Punjabs and Sindh where religious minorities have ceased to exist for all practical purposes. This is not so in the Bengals, where many still live on their ancestral land.

Few moments in the past century have evoked as much hope in its stakeholders as the emergence of the secular nation-state of Bangladesh in the eastern part of the subcontinent. That nation is in serious turmoil. In the last two years, the Opposition Bangladesh Nationalist Party–Jamaat-e-Islami combine has been partially successful in using its massive economic clout and propaganda apparatus to portray itself as a victim of state-sponsored witch-hunting.

The ‘witch-hunting’ boils down to two things that can finish off the Jamaat as a viable political force. The first is the de-registration of the Jamaat as an electoral force as per a Supreme court order that bars any party that “puts God before the democratic process”. The second is the war crimes trial of those who committed crimes against humanity during 1971. Much of the present Jamaat leadership was heavily involved in murder, rape, arson and forced conversions. In a subcontinent where politics thrives on the erasure of public memory, this episode has stubbornly refused to disappear. A dilly-dallying Awami League government was almost forced by the youth movement in Shahbag to pursue the war crimes trial seriously. Facing the prospect of political annihilation, the Jamaat responded by a three-pronged offensive. It marshalled its cadres and young Madrassa students and use them for blockading Dhaka. It lent its activists to a BNP in disarray to act as boots on the ground. It carried out targeted attacks on the homes, businesses and places of worship of Hindus, the nation’s largest religious minority.

In 2001, after the BNP-led alliance won the elections, the usual pattern of murder, rape and arson targeting Hindus happened on a very large scale. Hindus have traditionally voted for the Awami League. The guarantee for ‘jaan and maal’ (life and property) is important for the survival of any people. In the Awami League regime, although property and homestead have been regularly taken away by the powerful persons of the party, systematic attacks on minorities are not part of the party’s policy. The same cannot be said of the BNP-Jamaat partnership, which regularly threatened both jaan and maal. It is not hard to see why Hindus chose the devil over the deep sea. This time, Hindus seemed to be out of favour from both sides. While they were targeted by the BNP-Jamaat for coming out to vote at all, in other areas they were targeted by Awami League rebels for coming out to vote for the official Awami League candidate who happened to be of the Hindu faith. There have been disturbing signs over the past few years that at the local level, the difference between the ‘secular’ Awami League and the communal-fundamentalist BNP-Jamaat is beginning to disappear, though publicly the former does not tire in parroting the staunchly secular ideals of 1971.

A throwback to 1971

The violence unleashed against the Hindus this time, before and after the January 5 polls, have been worst in Jessore, Dinajpur and Satkhira, though many other places like Thakurgaon, Rangpur, Bogra, Lalmonirhat, Gaibandha, Rajshahi and Chittagong have been affected. Malopara in Abhaynagar, Jessore, inhabited by Bengali Dalit castes, has been attacked repeatedly. Large-scale attacks on villages, businesses and places of worship, able-bodied men being on night vigils, women huddling together in one place — all these things brought back memories of 1971 for many of the inhabitants.

In Hazrail Rishipara of Jessore, women were raped at gunpoint for the crime that their families had voted in the election. Dinajpur has been badly hit with cases of beatings, arson on homes, shops, haystacks and crops. Both Jessore and Dinajpur being areas bordering West Bengal, crossing the border in self-preservation is a sad trek that many have undergone. It creates an environment that forces the remaining Hindus to ask the question ‘Why am I still here?’ ‘Partition’ continues.

The ‘Partition’ was swift and vicious in the Punjabs and Sindh where religious minorities have ceased to exist for all practical purposes. This is not so in the Bengals, where many still live on the ancestral land claimed by nations whose legitimacies are much more recent than people’s ancestral claims over their homestead. More than 25 per cent of Bengal’s western half’s population is Mohammeddan (the figure was 19.46 per cent in 1951, after the 1947 Partition). In the eastern half, 8.5 per cent of the population is Hindu (it was 22 per cent in 1951). In Bengal, secularism has political currency. It was one of the foundational principles of the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War.


How did things come to be this way? The autocratic years of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman’s BAKSAL, the long years of army rule when the barracks used Islam to create a veneer of political legitimacy beyond the Awami League and pro-liberation forces, the overtures by mainstream parties to fundamentalist groupings — all these have given religion-based politics a front-row seat in the nation. Religiopolitical organisations have not been immune to the violent turn of this brand of politics internationally in the last two decades. Pro-Pakistan forces, which looked to faith-unity as the basis of statehood, did not disappear after the Liberation War. They were broadly and transiently (as it increasingly seems) de-legitimised due to their role in the atrocities of 1971.


But what about the project — that religion marks a nation? What about the splinters of such an idea stuck deep in political and societal structures? That trend has persisted, even expanded. In the imagination of all the ruling factions since 1947 during East Bengal, East Pakistan and Bangladesh periods, there has been a tacit understanding of the normative citizen — a Mohameddan Bengali male or a Bengali Mohameddan male. Hindus there are a living reminder of an identity that is not fully coterminous with ideas that conflate Bengaliness (or ‘Bangladeshiness’) with that normative citizen. Their progressive numerical marginality makes this conflation project easier. Such projects often live in the underside of mindscapes that can be ‘secular’ in very many declarations. Thus, they can be marginalised without being actively targeted, in ‘innocuous’ everyday dealings.


The majority can decide to be whatever it wants and the minority has to follow suit in a modern nation-state. So, Bengali Hindus were expected to become ‘Pakistanis’ overnight in 1947 just as others elsewhere were expected to suddenly become ‘Indians’. While Bengali Muslim politicians have the autonomous agency to de-Pakistanise themselves at will, East Bengali Hindus could only publicly do so upon an explicit cue from their Bengali Muslim brethren. Just like other minorities, “extra-territorial loyalty” is the slur that is bandied about. And this is also what makes minorities cautious, anxious and lesser citizens in a polity where they cannot critique their state in all the ways a majority community person can.

Still one cannot but hope that the People’s Republic of Bangladesh would live up to some of its original ideals. Minorities have fled the nation-state for want of security in large numbers, year after year. There is significant presence of minorities in the bureaucracy and local administration. Even during the recent spate of violence, the state has transferred police officials for failing to provide security. This reality exists too. It is this reality that partly prevents a mass exodus of Hindus beyond the levels seen at present. For many, they have too much to lose to be able to leave. And that is a problem for a religious majoritarian nation-state.

(The writer is a researcher at Massachusetts Institute of Technology)

Bengali Hindus in Muslim-majority Bangladesh - The Hindu

A bit old article, but still very very relevant! No trolling please.
I saw a documentary a while back about prostitution in Bangladesh. It highlighted how Hindus were living in poor conditions and many of them were working as prostitutes, street sweepers or garbage recycle.
 
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I saw a documentary a while back about prostitution in Bangladesh. It highlighted how Hindus were living in poor conditions and many of them were working as prostitutes, street sweepers or garbage recycle.
it is not minority issue, it is economical, there are many hindu live as elite
 
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