Beijing secretly fires lasers to disable US satellites

[MOO]

Beijing secretly fires lasers to disable US satellites

By Francis Harris in Washington
(Filed: 26/09/2006)




China has secretly fired powerful laser weapons designed to disable American spy satellites by "blinding" their sensitive surveillance devices, it was reported yesterday.

How it works

The hitherto unreported attacks have been kept secret by the Bush administration for fear that it would damage attempts to co-opt China in diplomatic offensives against North Korea and Iran.

Sources told the military affairs publication Defense News that there had been a fierce internal battle within Washington over whether to make the attacks public. In the end, the Pentagon's annual assessment of the growing Chinese military build-up barely mentioned the threat.

"After a contentious debate, the White House directed the Pentagon to limit its concern to one line," Defense News said.

The document said that China could blind American satellites with a ground-based laser firing a beam of light to prevent spy photography as they pass over China.

According to senior American officials: "China not only has the capability, but has exercised it." American satellites like the giant Keyhole craft have come under attack "several times" in recent years.

Although the Chinese tests do not aim to destroy American satellites, the laser attacks could make them useless over Chinese territory.

The American military has been so alarmed by the Chinese activity that it has begun test attacks against its own satellites to determine the severity of the threat.

Satellites are especially vulnerable to attack because they have predetermined orbits, allowing an enemy to know where they will appear.

"The Chinese are very strategically minded and are extremely active in this arena. They really believe all the stuff written in the 1980s about the high frontier," said one senior former Pentagon official.

There has been increasing alarm in parts of the American military establishment over China's growing military ambitions.

Military experts have already noted that Chinese military expenditure is increasingly designed to challenge American military pre-eminence by investing in weaponry that can attack key systems such as aircraft carriers and satellites.

At the same time, China is engaged in a large-scale espionage effort against American high-tech firms working on projects such as the multibillion-pound DD(X) destroyer programme.

Several spy rings have been cracked and the FBI is increasing the number of counter-intelligence staff tracking the Chinese effort.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/26/wchina226.xml

 

[ST1976]

Beijing secretly fires lasers to disable US satellites

By Francis Harris in Washington
(Filed: 26/09/2006)




China has secretly fired powerful laser weapons designed to disable American spy satellites by "blinding" their sensitive surveillance devices, it was reported yesterday.

How it works

The hitherto unreported attacks have been kept secret by the Bush administration for fear that it would damage attempts to co-opt China in diplomatic offensives against North Korea and Iran.

Sources told the military affairs publication Defense News that there had been a fierce internal battle within Washington over whether to make the attacks public. In the end, the Pentagon's annual assessment of the growing Chinese military build-up barely mentioned the threat.

"After a contentious debate, the White House directed the Pentagon to limit its concern to one line," Defense News said.

The document said that China could blind American satellites with a ground-based laser firing a beam of light to prevent spy photography as they pass over China.

According to senior American officials: "China not only has the capability, but has exercised it." American satellites like the giant Keyhole craft have come under attack "several times" in recent years.

Although the Chinese tests do not aim to destroy American satellites, the laser attacks could make them useless over Chinese territory.

The American military has been so alarmed by the Chinese activity that it has begun test attacks against its own satellites to determine the severity of the threat.

Satellites are especially vulnerable to attack because they have predetermined orbits, allowing an enemy to know where they will appear.

"The Chinese are very strategically minded and are extremely active in this arena. They really believe all the stuff written in the 1980s about the high frontier," said one senior former Pentagon official.

There has been increasing alarm in parts of the American military establishment over China's growing military ambitions.

Military experts have already noted that Chinese military expenditure is increasingly designed to challenge American military pre-eminence by investing in weaponry that can attack key systems such as aircraft carriers and satellites.

At the same time, China is engaged in a large-scale espionage effort against American high-tech firms working on projects such as the multibillion-pound DD(X) destroyer programme.

Several spy rings have been cracked and the FBI is increasing the number of counter-intelligence staff tracking the Chinese effort.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/26/wchina226.xml

do we have any information about detailed capability of chinese space technology?

 

[KashifAsrar]

great work. these chinese people are actually giving valuable hints for the american bashers and sworn enemies.
kashif

 

[ST1976]

repeated post

 

[ST1976]

great work. these chinese people are actually giving valuable hints for the american bashers and sworn enemies.
kashif

i saw your public profile and contact email ID. you are a indian muslim and dont like US. but brother it really doesn’t matter whether we like or dislike US or china. on one hand india has no problem with US, and on the other hand china is the biggest threat to india who gave all the arms and N Technology to pakistan. here US is the country who is against china and also want to remove those terrorists also who are doing bomb blasts in india. if we want security of our family members and people of india in trains, shopping complex or on any public place where terrorists are doing bomb blasts in india, then the only way is to support US.

this is bit easy to tackle pakistan as compare to china. at least india may talk to pakistan but what chinese says and what they really wanna do, we cant guess. china will be the main problem of india in future. if US will get weak on chinese eastern border, china will first look on india who has been supporting Tibet’s for a long. democratic west is far better than communist china.

 

[sigatoka]

1. on one hand india has no problem with US, and on the other hand china is the biggest threat to india who gave all the arms and N Technology to pakistan.


2. here US is the country who is against china and also want to remove those terrorists also who are doing bomb blasts in india. if we want security of our family members and people of india in trains, shopping complex or on any public place where terrorists are doing bomb blasts in india, then the only way is to support US.

3. china will first look on india who has been supporting Tibet’s for a long. democratic west is far better than communist china.

1. Pak. would have developed nuclear weapons without Chinese help and secondly Pak. weapons development was a direct response to India's testing.

2. The way you are saying it is as if to imply China is doing the blasts in India. Secondly where exactly are the U.S. forensic teams helping Indian investigate bomb blasts and giving compensation to Indian victims? What exactly has U.S. done against terrorism apart from invading nations and even according to their own intelligence reports increased the threat of terrorism?

India's terrorism problem is domestic, it is tied to two factors Kashmir is one and the the hindu-muslims tension that erupt into mass killings is another. This is something that neither the U.S. nor anyone else can solve but India.

3. When exactly did China invade India and colonise it for over a hundred years? Or was that the democratic west.

 

[ST1976]

1. Pak. would have developed nuclear weapons without Chinese help and secondly Pak. weapons development was a direct response to India's testing.

2. The way you are saying it is as if to imply China is doing the blasts in India. Secondly where exactly are the U.S. forensic teams helping Indian investigate bomb blasts and giving compensation to Indian victims? What exactly has U.S. done against terrorism apart from invading nations and even according to their own intelligence reports increased the threat of terrorism?

India's terrorism problem is domestic, it is tied to two factors Kashmir is one and the the hindu-muslims tension that erupt into mass killings is another. This is something that neither the U.S. nor anyone else can solve but India.

3. When exactly did China invade India and colonise it for over a hundred years? Or was that the democratic west.

1. it really doesn't matter whether pak has N bombs or not if pakistan don’t want to use it against india. india has already promised "no first use" of N bombs against any country. but the problem is, pakistan was intentionally given N bombs by china to counter india.

2. china is not doing bomb blasts in india but she is strengthening those who are supporting those terrorirsts. and the role of US is such that, they want to remove those terrorists who are father of kashmiri terrorists.

and here it doesn't really matters to india what US has done with rest of world. frankly speaking. problem of india start from terrorists doing bomb blasts in india with support of ISI and end with growing threat of china.

3. no hindu-muslim killing each other in india. sometimes ISI organize bomb blasts to kill hindus and again same ISI organize bomb blasts to kill muslims also and then it is given name of hindu-muslim riots. there is some problems, but not like you thinking. hindu and muslim are living together in india for more than 55 years. they cant just start killing each other. there is a very good understanding among them.

4. man not only west but also ARYAN invade india about 5000 years before from outside. then muslims did the same for 1000s of years and at the end west did that for 90-100 years. infact i dont really know whats the truth as i just born 29 years before. the main thing is, whats really happening right now. and this is “terrorism”.

 

[sigatoka]

1. pakistan was intentionally given N bombs by china to counter india.

2. china is not doing bomb blasts in india but she is strengthening those who are supporting those terrorirsts.

problem of india start from terrorists doing bomb blasts in india with support of ISI and end with growing threat of china.

3. no hindu-muslim killing each other in india. sometimes ISI organize bomb blasts to kill hindus and again same ISI organize bomb blasts to kill muslims also and then it is given name of hindu-muslim riots.

1. Yeah right, China just handed Pak. the nuclear weapons just like Russia handed India the weapons.

2. This is the first time somebody has said that.

3. Yeah right, ISI is doing all the bomb blasts and inciting hindu muslim riots and killings.

 

[ST1976]

2. This is the first time somebody has said that.
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i didnt have to, but i thought i would clear what you never heard. "if pakistan is the country who is responsible to transfer N-Tech to Iran (and also to N Korea in return of M11missles), if pakistan (and her ISI) is the country who has been supporting terrorists organizations like taliban and Al Quaida (even UK intelligence also says), if pakistan is the country who's ISI has been training kashimiris terrorists (who were born outside india) and organizing bomb blasts in India................. then i can say China is the country who have given strength to pakistan who is responsible for all the major problems in the world."

here one thing i would like to clear. "Taliban is no political organization with whom pakistani military is dealing with." taliban is a terrorist group who’s main earning is through smuggling of drugs and arms. they are the people who directly support terrorist organizations like Al Quaida. taliban can't e justified to be a political organization with whom pakistani military talking.

 

[sigatoka]

1. pakistan (and her ISI) is the country who has been supporting terrorists organizations like taliban and Al Quaida

2. pakistan is the country who's ISI has been training kashimiris terrorists (who were born outside india) and

3. organizing bomb blasts in India................. then i can say

4. China is the country who have given strength to pakistan who is responsible for all the major problems in the world."

5. taliban is a terrorist group who’s main earning is through smuggling of drugs and arms.

6. they are the people who directly support terrorist organizations like Al Quaida. taliban can't e justified to be a political organization with whom pakistani military talking.

1. Pak. doesnt support Taliban and AQ and neither does ISI

2. Kashmiri's fighting against Indian army are not terrorists. Terrorism is targetting of civilians, something which the Indian army engages to a greater degree to in Kashmir than the rebels/insurgents/freedom fighters.

3. The vast majority of bomb blasts and riots are done by Indians who have grievances. Are you saying the Gujarat riots was done by ISI? or the assualt on parliament was done by Pakistanis? They were Indian citizens. What you need is a reality check.

4. China has not made Pak. strong or weak, whatever Pak. is has been mostly the result of Pak.

5. Taliban is not a terrorist group, they are a political organisation. They are fighting to remove foreign occupiers from their nation. As for the drug business, if you havent realised everyone is in on the act. As for arms trade the same.

6. Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was rendered combat ineffective in the invasion by the U.S. The vast majority of the fighting now is occuring between Taliban and the NATO forces there.

Pak. is perfectly justified in talking to Pak. citizens who live in its border region who are not terrorists.

India for all its talk hasnt sent any soldiers to either Iraq or Afghanistan.

 

[ST1976]

1. Pak. doesnt support Taliban and AQ and neither does ISI

Even if pakistan is going to change her policy with Taliban and AQ from today, I would like to thank.

2. Kashmiri's fighting against Indian army are not terrorists. Terrorism is targetting of civilians, something which the Indian army engages to a greater degree to in Kashmir than the rebels/insurgents/freedom fighters.

almost 100% kashmiri terrorists were born and equipped outside india. there is already a fencing on indo-pak border. even pakistani origin well trained terrorists face problem in crossing it, how a innocent indian kashmiri can cross and go to pakistan and back with arms and full training?????

3. The vast majority of bomb blasts and riots are done by Indians who have grievances. Are you saying the Gujarat riots was done by ISI? or the assualt on parliament was done by Pakistanis? They were Indian citizens. What you need is a reality check.

the bomb blast are being done by indians (hindu and muslim both) to kill indians. Indian include muslim indian president, richest man of india, Azim premji a muslim, top muslim IAS officers, muslim bureaucrats, muslim engineers and doctors of india where there is no law who make difference among religions?

4. China has not made Pak. strong or weak, whatever Pak. is has been mostly the result of Pak.

sorry bro. no comment.

5. Taliban is not a terrorist group, they are a political organisation. They are fighting to remove foreign occupiers from their nation. As for the drug business, if you havent realised everyone is in on the act. As for arms trade the same.

i’m not agree with you.

6. Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was rendered combat ineffective in the invasion by the U.S. The vast majority of the fighting now is occuring between Taliban and the NATO forces there.

Al Qaeda was killing those (western people) who are there with request of PM of Afghanistan, Mr Karjai.

Pak. is perfectly justified in talking to Pak. citizens who live in its border region who are not terrorists.

Agreed

 

[ST1976]

1. Pak. doesnt support Taliban and AQ and neither does ISI

2. Kashmiri's fighting against Indian army are not terrorists. Terrorism is targetting of civilians, something which the Indian army engages to a greater degree to in Kashmir than the rebels/insurgents/freedom fighters.

3. The vast majority of bomb blasts and riots are done by Indians who have grievances. Are you saying the Gujarat riots was done by ISI? or the assualt on parliament was done by Pakistanis? They were Indian citizens. What you need is a reality check.

4. China has not made Pak. strong or weak, whatever Pak. is has been mostly the result of Pak.

5. Taliban is not a terrorist group, they are a political organisation. They are fighting to remove foreign occupiers from their nation. As for the drug business, if you havent realised everyone is in on the act. As for arms trade the same.

6. Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan was rendered combat ineffective in the invasion by the U.S. The vast majority of the fighting now is occuring between Taliban and the NATO forces there.

Pak. is perfectly justified in talking to Pak. citizens who live in its border region who are not terrorists.

India for all its talk hasnt sent any soldiers to either Iraq or Afghanistan.

I would like to give a link on one talk, you don’t want to do. Please have a look on the link, any comment?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/7/164846.shtml

North Korea Nukes Clinton Legacy

Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2003
Asian Arms Race Result of Appeasement Policy


The leftist media spin is that the current crisis in North Asia is the result of George W. Bush calling Pyongyang a member of the 'axis of evil.' In reality, the soft-line appeasement policy taken by Clinton against North Korea and China is what has led us to this point.

For example, former Clinton adviser Paul Begala, now serving as a talking head on CNN, claimed that the Clinton administration contained the threat from North Korea. Clearly, Mr. Begala missed the 1990s.

Of course, Mr. Begala simply forgot that Clinton's military chief of staff testified in 1998 that North Korea did not have an active ballistic missile program. One week later the North Koreans launched a missile over Japan that landed off the Alaska coast.

During the early Clinton years, hard-liners and so-called conservative hawks advocated a pre-emptive strike to halt North Korea's nuclear weapons development before it could field an atomic bomb. Instead of taking the hard line, President Clinton elected to rely on former President Jimmy Carter and decided to appease the Marxist-Stalinist dictatorship.

Carter met with North Korean leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang and returned to America waving a piece of paper and declaring peace in our time. Kim, according to Carter, had agreed to stop his nuclear weapons development.

The Clinton appeasement program for North Korea included hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor. However, the agreement was flawed and lacked even the most informal means of verification.

In return, Kim elected to starve his people while using the American aid to build uranium bombs. The lowest estimate is that Kim starved to death over 1 million of his own people, even with the U.S. aid program.

Axis of Evil and Friends

North Korea was not left all alone in its effort to obtain nuclear weapons. North Korea relied heavily on China, its closest ally, to assist in its all-out effort to obtain the atomic bomb.

Beijing elected to covertly aid its North Asian ally by proliferation. China allowed Pakistan to send nuclear technology purchased from Beijing to North Korea in exchange for No Dong missile technology.

Beijing provided Pakistan with its nuclear weapons technology, including an operational atomic bomb design. Pakistan is now providing North Korea with equipment and engineering to assist in its bomb-making efforts.

The fact remains that North Korea acquired some key equipment for its nuclear weapons program from Pakistan in 1998. The key equipment, including a working gas centrifuge used to enrich uranium, was shipped to Pyongyang in the coffin of the murdered wife of a North Korean diplomat.

Beijing's indirect assistance includes allowing Pakistani C-130 cargo flights over China to Pyongyang that carry key equipment for nuclear weapons production. The flights return to Pakistan with North Korean No Dong missile parts.

Missiles for Nukes

Pakistan also benefited from the trade in weaponry. The missiles-for-nukes trade gave Pakistan an operational means to deliver its atomic bombs.

Pakistan has since successfully test-fired and deployed its own version of the No Dong missile, called the Ghauri. The North Korean-designed missile has a range of nearly 900 miles and can cover virtually all of India, Pakistan's rival in Southwest Asia.

The ultimate irony here is that the North Korean No Dong and Tae Po Dong missiles are based on technology given to Pyongyang by China. In 1994, the Wall Street Journal revealed that Chinese-made CSS-2 missile technology had found its way into North Korean hands.

China has also allowed North Korea to ship SCUD missiles through its territory for Middle Eastern customers. According to a Canadian undercover operative, North Korean agents moved dismantled SCUD missiles through China into Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran.

The allegations proved to be correct because U.S. satellites were able to follow Chinese-made M-11 missiles bound for Pakistan over the same land route in 2000. The illegal export of M-11 missiles brought swift sanctions against Beijing by the Bush administration.

In recent months China has been much more overt about assisting Pyongyang with its nuclear weapons program. In 2002, China sold Pyongyang a large shipment of tributyl phosphate, a key chemical used to extract plutonium and uranium from spent fuel rods for atomic bombs.

U.S. Pressure on Asian Allies

In contrast, the U.S. repeatedly told India, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan that they should not develop nuclear weapons. The U.S. position was that the no one had the right to bring a new arms race to Asia.

The U.S. also backed up this policy by placing severe restrictions on the export of nuclear and ballistic missile technology to India, Taiwan, Korea and Japan. The trade agreements also had teeth built into them in case U.S. technology was abused.

For example, when India developed and tested its nuclear bomb, the U.S. responded with hefty sanctions and a diplomatic freeze that is just now beginning to thaw.

Compared to the strict U.S. policy, China did not discourage its client states, North Korea and Pakistan, from developing nuclear weapons. Instead, China has overtly and covertly assisted both nations to develop and deploy active weapons upon working delivery systems.

Nature abhors a vacuum, especially in the case of nuclear weapons. The whole equation of Asian defense has changed overnight. As a result of China's nuclear proliferation, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan may now have to follow Pyongyang's lead and begin their own atomic weapons programs. That decision will be made in Tokyo, Seoul and Taipei, not in Washington.

It should shock no one, including the China lobby and DNC apologists, that Beijing will continue to support North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

However, some fools continue to be suckered by Beijing's obvious ploy to dominate Asia. The fools' hope that China will restrain Pyongyang continues to echo off the lips of the leftist media, as if by simply wishing it were true will make it so.

The fact remains that Bill Clinton's legacy is an unstable world filled with hungry dictators and nuclear weapons. The result of the Clinton appeasement policy toward China is a new arms race.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/7/164846.shtml

 

[ST1976]

2. This is the first time somebody has said that.

here are some more links about chinese sponsored terrorism which you never heard.

http://www.wisconsinproject.org/countries/pakistan/miss-miles2005.htm
http://taiwansecurity.org/News/WT-010600-NKorea-Missile.htm
http://www.koreafocus.or.kr/main_viewo.asp?volume_id=5&cate_code=B&g_cate_code=BA&g_code=974

or the best way, just search "M11 missile N Korea Pakistan N Technology" on google. you may find many information.

at the end i would like to say, you are studying. do your studies. more you will ask about world politics, more you will get confused. cheers

 

[KashifAsrar]

Have you ever been to India JB 007? Or just a e-Indian?
I am brought up in India, educated there, participated in every walk of life there. Can you share some of your experience about India?
Kashif

 

[ST1976]

Have you ever been to India JB 007? Or just a e-Indian?
I am brought up in India, educated there, participated in every walk of life there. Can you share some of your experience about India?
Kashif

Asif my whole life passed in india. lucknow city. u might be knowing. where u from?