Bangladeshis would rather swim to Italy than come to India, says outgoing envoy

[Smarana Mitra]

This country very well belong to every citizen born and brought up here irrespective of his religious affiliation. It is not the exclusive property of Mr. Amit Shah's DAD or some Sanghi stooges. Else be ready for a prolonged civil war where in extremist Hindus will be greatly surprised when the minorities fight back, with our without external help.

Anyone who is not a dharmic is a traitor who converted. Traitors have no place. The very act of converting itself is betrayal and an act of war. There is already war and there can't be another war between same people at the same time. Traitors are anyways fighting. So, there is hardly anything new or surprising. If open war is declared, it will be short and swift.

If you start expelling minorities to make space for "hindus" you'd find a civil war on your hands.

Our founding fathers were very clear on this, they could have emulated Mr. Jinnah and declared India a hindu rhastra, they specifically chose a nation state for all. We are too diverse to be united otherwise.

You are doing your nation a great disservice by dividing it, there is injustice, corruption and politic malaise, however the out, the way forward, is together not alone.

There is war anyways. It hardly matters whether it is officially declared or not. Muslims staying in India and having high fertility while getting free ration from India is also an act of war. Christians doing their missionary activities and having allegiance to foreign countries is also an act of war. So, expelling these foreign agents will only help, not harm India. There can't be 2 wars between the same people and since there is already war, it does not matter if these foreign agents are expelled or not.

India has no founding fathers. India only had protem representatives during independence. They could not emulate Jinnah as they were people of poor character and worthless and did not have the courage or intelligence to fight. India is not at all diverse. Dharma is the binding thread of India and everything else is just division of labour.

India is already divided and the only way of uniting it is through dharma. Dharmics are not alone but have large numbers. Tolerating converts, who are basically traitors is simply unacceptable.

 

[Krptonite]

Anyone who is not a dharmic is a traitor who converted. Traitors have no place. The very act of converting itself is betrayal and an act of war. There is already war and there can't be another war between same people at the same time. Traitors are anyways fighting. So, there is hardly anything new or surprising. If open war is declared, it will be short and swift.


There is war anyways. It hardly matters whether it is officially declared or not. Muslims staying in India and having high fertility while getting free ration from India is also an act of war. Christians doing their missionary activities and having allegiance to foreign countries is also an act of war. So, expelling these foreign agents will only help, not harm India. There can't be 2 wars between the same people and since there is already war, it does not matter if these foreign agents are expelled or not.

India has no founding fathers. India only had protem representatives during independence. They could not emulate Jinnah as they were people of poor character and worthless and did not have the courage or intelligence to fight. India is not at all diverse. Dharma is the binding thread of India and everything else is just division of labour.

India is already divided and the only way of uniting it is through dharma. Dharmics are not alone but have large numbers. Tolerating converts, who are basically traitors is simply unacceptable.

If you consider fellow citizens to be enemies in a war, I'm afraid there's not much that can be said to change your mind.

The sovereign state of India has founding fathers who wrote it's constitution and I'm glad our state machinery is up to task to handle those who would wage war with our own citizens over religion. You cannot possibly recognise what unites with such a divisive mindset.

Mindsets such as yours would rather see this nation tear itself apart over who's right or wrong than to work together to make us something unique.

On the cusp of our independence, many posited over our longevity, given our diverse nature, many predicted our ruin early given the sheer magnitude of difference between us all. Our founding fathers were a true representative of us all and as such could make a system for us to inherit, which wobbled but never tumbled and today stands as an example of a vibrant democracy.

Many gullible Indians demonise Pakistan as religious fanatics, yet we are treading down the same path.

No nation has achieved greatness by expelling/isolating their own citizens, that path leads to ruin.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

If you consider fellow citizens to be enemies in a war, I'm afraid there's not much that can be said to change your mind.

The sovereign state of India has founding fathers who wrote it's constitution and I'm glad our state machinery is up to task to handle those who would wage war with our own citizens over religion. You cannot possibly recognise what unites with such a divisive mindset.

First explain in clear words as to what causes "unity in diversity" amongst people before making any more comment. If you can't explain it clearly, that means you are simply trying to cheat and fool by lying and misinformation. All your words stand rejected if you can't explain this concept which you are considering as reference to all your words.

Who are the founding fathers? What did they found and how? Just because a bunch of people wrote a book doe not mean everyone else have to follow it. Which state machinery are you talking of? Who runs that machinery? Just because a set of rules were written in a book does not make that a machinery. Who is stopping from changing the rules? No, any tom dick and harry is not "my own citizen" just because some people wrote it in a book. My citizen s one who I accept. None can force me to declare anyone as my citizen based on just his whims and fancies.

 

[Krptonite]

First explain in clear words as to what causes "unity in diversity" amongst people before making any more comment. If you can't explain it clearly, that means you are simply trying to cheat and fool by lying and misinformation. All your words stand rejected if you can't explain this concept which you are considering as reference to all your words.

Who are the founding fathers? What did they found and how? Just because a bunch of people wrote a book doe not mean everyone else have to follow it. Which state machinery are you talking of? Who runs that machinery? Just because a set of rules were written in a book does not make that a machinery. Who is stopping from changing the rules? No, any tom dick and harry is not "my own citizen" just because some people wrote it in a book. My citizen s one who I accept. None can force me to declare anyone as my citizen based on just his whims and fancies.

Unity in diversity stands as our guiding principle, as a testament that though we may be different in race/colour/religion/ethnicity/language we stand together for shared values enshrined in our constitution in it's preamble.

No one can force you to accept anything, luckily for the rest of us, your opinions are rightly ignored.

You are most welcome to protest and demand for what you want.

If you do it peacefully, it will be due to the courtesy of the constitution that you mock.

If you take up arms, you will find out exactly, what is the state machinery I mentioned.

Either way, you will find yourself alone, excluded and not one of us. The fringe rallying against the majority for what it wants.

@bl33d @Nilgiri @jamahir @Tom M
@CHACHA"G"
@Chhatrapati

 

[Osiris]

India is a country of hindus. How can a hindu be illegal immigrant in India? Nationality of a person is defined by his culture. And by default all Hindus are Indians. Where is the question of sending anyone other than muslims back? Who else is there to send back other than muslims? Of course, it is not just Bangladeshi but even Pakistani muslims or other muslims who have to be sent back

No it is not ! India is a country for Indians irrespective of their religion !! Please don't reduce us to Pakistan's level.

A hindu from Nepal would be considered an illegal immigrant. However, Hindu, Sikhs, Christians, basically any minority in Muslim majority states of Pakistan, Bangladesh or Afghanistan can apply for refuge in India, if they are facing persecution in the home countries.

 

[Tom M]

Anyone who is not a dharmic is a traitor who converted. Traitors have no place. The very act of converting itself is betrayal and an act of war. There is already war and there can't be another war between same people at the same time. Traitors are anyways fighting. So, there is hardly anything new or surprising. If open war is declared, it will be short and swift.


There is war anyways. It hardly matters whether it is officially declared or not. Muslims staying in India and having high fertility while getting free ration from India is also an act of war. Christians doing their missionary activities and having allegiance to foreign countries is also an act of war. So, expelling these foreign agents will only help, not harm India. There can't be 2 wars between the same people and since there is already war, it does not matter if these foreign agents are expelled or not.

India has no founding fathers. India only had protem representatives during independence. They could not emulate Jinnah as they were people of poor character and worthless and did not have the courage or intelligence to fight. India is not at all diverse. Dharma is the binding thread of India and everything else is just division of labour.

India is already divided and the only way of uniting it is through dharma. Dharmics are not alone but have large numbers. Tolerating converts, who are basically traitors is simply unacceptable.

You can very well trigger and start a war. But kid don't be under the impression that it will be swift and short, you ain't the one who is gonna decide that. Even our defense forces will be divided on communal lines, religion, cast and creed. Then what will hyper-nationalist Hindu's like you do, huh ??

 

[Smarana Mitra]

You can very well trigger and start a war. But kid don't be under the impression that it will be swift and short, you ain't the one who is gonna decide that. Even our defense forces will be divided on communal lines, religion, cast and creed. Then what will hyper-nationalist Hindu's like you do, huh ??

The wars are fought by recruiting from civilian population. So, it will be 83% vs 17% and Hindus are superior in arms and technology. Secondly, India does not keep many minorities in army as they know the problem caused during partition. It will be as swift as it was when Hindus were expelled from Pakistan in 1947 or 30 lakh hindus were forced out of Bangladesh in 1971.

 

[Tom M]

The wars are fought by recruiting from civilian population. So, it will be 83% vs 17% and Hindus are superior in arms and technology. Secondly, India does not keep many minorities in army as they know the problem caused during partition. It will be as swift as it was when Hindus were expelled from Pakistan in 1947 or 30 lakh hindus were forced out of Bangladesh in 1971.

And you expect the majority 83% to be too dumb like you ??? LOL

 

[Krptonite]

And you expect the majority 83% to be too dumb like you ??? LOL

Everyone's a traitor, only the pure deserve to live here. He's starting to sound familiar.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Unity in diversity stands as our guiding principle, as a testament that though we may be different in race/colour/religion/ethnicity/language we stand together for shared values enshrined in our constitution in it's preamble.

No one can force you to accept anything, luckily for the rest of us, your opinions are rightly ignored.

You are most welcome to protest and demand for what you want.

If you do it peacefully, it will be due to the courtesy of the constitution that you mock.

If you take up arms, you will find out exactly, what is the state machinery I mentioned.

Either way, you will find yourself alone, excluded and not one of us. A minority rallying against the majority for what it wants.

@bl33d @Nilgiri @jamahir @Tom M
@CHACHA"G"

Nonsense at the highest order. Constitution is not some values of people that causes unity COnstitution has no practical value or use. It is simply a restrictive book which poses restrictions.

Obviously, anyone who takes up arms without first reasoning will be attacked by everyone as he will be considered rogue element. Pakistan was created by campaign, not because Jinnah waged war. Campaign is done to gain support and war is waged only after it is found that there are elements who are unreasonable and don't accept anything but their own terms. So, the first step of war is campaign to change constitution and declare non-dharmics as traitors and security threat.

The path to war will be just like Jinnah's campaign and then followed by "direct action" when others try to sabotage. This is the most basic way in which wars are waged. Even USA campaigned to its people against communism before declaring cold war against USSR. Anyone who declares war without campaigning first is simply a person who does not know team work.

Your idea that none will listen to my words and will simply accept the values of constitution is most laughable. There is no faith on constitution. It is simply tolerated in return for favours like "investment" and good terms for India in international arena

And you expect the majority 83% to be too dumb like you ??? LOL

They are intelligent like me and hence will easily recognise traitors. That is what I am saying.

 

[Tom M]

They are intelligent like me and hence will easily recognise traitors. That is what I am saying.

Sure they are. That's why they boast and rely upon the Nuclear tech and weapons conceived by a minority Zoroastrian (Dr Homi Jehangir Bhabha) or Missile technology gifted by a Muslim ( Dr. Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam) for our defense. LOL

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Sure they are. That's why they boast and rely upon the Nuclear tech and weapons conceived by a minority Zoroastrian (Dr Homi Jehangir Bhabha) or Missile technology gifted by a Muslim ( Dr. Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam) for our defense. LOL

Firstly, parsis are almost Hindus. Parsis were plit in 700BC from Hinduism like buddhists but they are not abrahamics. So, they are also accepted into Hindu fold. So, Homi Bhabha was not an outsider. Indian missile technology was made by Vikram Sarabhai. Abdul Kalam continued it 2 decades later. Moreover, Abdul Kalam was a hindu as he always recommended spiritualism and BhagwadGita, not Quran. So, for all practical purpose, Abdul Kalam converted into Hindu. Don't give cheap arguments just to justify anything you say.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

So you suggest we send Hindu refugees back to Pakistan and Bangladesh to get raped and murdered.

The country was split by Muslims. Why should we forget that? They need to be kicked out

But the government won't send them back. Bangladesh cannot accommodate them. Bangladesh will send another batch of tens of millions to India.

Unfortunately, BJP is only concerned about winning elections. They will identify few illegals, take them off voters list and keep them in camps. Not solve the problem once for all.

They used the same strategy for Indian Muslims as well. Use them to instill fear in the minds of Hindu voters. But keep the problem alive and let it grow. Such short-sightedness exhibited by Indian rulers since the last 1200 years, keeps destroying the country.

According to Abul Kalam Azad in his book "India Wins Freedom", three blunders of Nehru let to the creation of Pakistan!!! Jinnah accepted the Cabinet Mission Plan, but to the Hindu leaders: let it be small, but let it be mine...

 

[AfrazulMandal]

I don't expect much humanity from Hindus. The hatred you have for everybody else is just mind boggling.

 

[Krptonite]

I don't expect much humanity from Hindus. The hatred you have for everybody else is just mind boggling.

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