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Bangladesh vs Pakistan: What is Hasina’s Real Problem?

Do not know what is her problem. But her real advantage is Pakistan's bad image associate with terrorism which she exploits again and again.

And of course, there is no one to stop her from doing whatever she wants. She is very proactive.
 
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Do not know what is her problem. But her real advantage is Pakistan's bad image associate with terrorism.

And of course, there is no one to stop her from doing what she wants. She is very proactive.


The BNP spouts the same "genocide" nonsense. Hasina/Awami League or Khaleda Zia/BNP, it really doesn't matter.

It is ironic that you are calling an active Pakistan movement activist a traitor.When Sheikh Mujib was organizing a bicycle rally in 1946 from Calcutta to Delhi for Pakistan campaign as a student leader,where were your Bhutto, drunkerd Yahia or bucher Tikka?


Either way, he became a traitor.

In any case, we are glad to be rid of your country and its people. It's good that it happened. We're much better off without you. Most people in Pakistan never talk about Bangladesh and want nothing to do with it.

Cutting diplomatic relation will not solve anything.Rather it will make Pakistan an official enemy state of Bangladesh.Then both country will try to sabotage and undermine each other's national interest in international level.You may have saying this in the hope of total non engagement,but it will only create hostile engagement as there are still many unresolved issues between Pakistan and Bangladesh.


Lol. Pakistan already seems to be an "enemy state" of Bangladesh. Remember "Genocide Day", and all the statements Bangladesh has been making against Pakistan (accusing it of "terrorism", etc.)?

And, there is nothing you can do to "sabotage" us. Try your worst. Bangladesh is a tiny, insignificant country almost a thousand miles away from Pakistan with a separate culture.

We have nothing to do with each other. We are not neighbors. We want nothing to do with you, and have no interest in "sabotaging" anything in your worthless country.

Some of which are-

1.Official apology for 1971 war crime.


All "war crimes" have been greatly exaggerated. We really don't care what you think.

However, since you are so fixated on what happened 45 years ago, you can start by apologizing for yours as well. We'll wait...

2.Trial of 195 Pakistani war criminal.


LOL. Never going to happen. They are not "war criminals". And in any case, we don't care what you think or want.

When are you going to put Mukti war criminals on trial too, by the way?

3.Division of pre-1971 national assets.


There must be a division of liabilities as well, then. :azn:

And why would we give anything to traitors, anyway. You decided to leave the country.

4.Repatriation of Bihari refugee into Pakistan.


Why are you so desperate to deport people who don't want to leave? Almost all of whom speak Bengali and consider themselves Bangladeshi now.

We did take in many Biharis from Bangladesh, by the way. However, you do know though that the vast majority of the ones that remain are Bangladeshi citizens according to Bangladesh?

'As the court explained: 2

"We do not think that only because of the concentration of Urdu speaking people, who were citizens of the [erstwhile] East Pakistan [in] the so called Geneva camp has attained any special status so as to be excluded from the operation of the laws of the land including the said President Order, the Electoral Rolls Ordinance, 1982 or the Citizenship Act, 1951. So mere residence of the first group of the petitioners at the Geneva Camp cannot be termed as allegiance to another state by conduct."

The Supreme Court cited its previous decisions to stress that one who applied for repatriation to Pakistan, or "even a diehard pro-Pakistani born in this country is entitled to be citizen of Bangladesh if he fulfills the requirements under Article 2 and is not disqualified under clause (1) of Article 2B. 3'

http://www.hurights.or.jp/archives/...haris-on-becoming-citizens-of-bangladesh.html


However, we will gladly take back a few hundred thousand Biharis, if you will take back 1-2 million illegal Bengali Bangladeshis living in Pakistan who immigrated after 1971/1974.

5.Sheltering of Mujib killer by Pakistan ect.


I hope Pakistan doesn't allow any Bangladeshis into the country, without proper papers. We have enough illegal Bangladeshis living in the country already.


Good luck with your "efforts" though, the US and Canada don't seem to care much
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"Bangladesh wants foreign countries to consider the issue as an “exceptional case” and send back the killers by amending their laws, if necessary, they added.

Of the six fugitive killers, Noor and Rashed have been located to be residing in Toronto, Canada and in Los Angeles of the United States respectively. But due to legal complexities they could not be brought back.

The government has deeply engaged and continued discussion with the US government since the US Ambassador to Bangladesh Marcia Bernicat in August 2015 officially informed Dhaka that Rashed was staying in the US after securing political asylum.

Until that time, the US, which had long been assuring Bangladesh to consider the extradition of Rashed, apparently suppressed the information. The US has not yet agreed to extradite Rashed because of “legal complexity.”

A highly-placed government source told The Daily Star that the government has already asked the US government to extradite Rashed, cancelling his political asylum.

Noor is now staying in Canada but without any legal papers.

The country has refused to deport him, as its policies do not approve sending back a person to other country having the provision of death sentence.

Canada, however, did not accept Noor's application for political asylum, said the source.

The Bangladesh government is yet to locate Rashid, Dalim, Majed and Moslehuddin as they change their position time to time. The four have Interpol arrest warrants on them.

The taskforce comprising ministers and high officials of the foreign, law and home ministries, formed in 2010 to locate and bring back the six killers, also has no confirmation about their locations.

The taskforce comprising ministers and high officials of the foreign, law and home ministries, formed in 2010 to locate and bring back the six killers, also has no confirmation about their locations.

It has engaged a nine-member intelligence team to spot the four through surveillance on their family members and relatives in the country. Besides, the government has already confiscated properties of the killers in Bangladesh.

A home ministry report placed before a taskforce meeting on December 9, 2014, said that Rashid could possibly be in Pakistan or Libya; Dalim in Pakistan/Libya/Zimbabwe/Kenya, Mazed in Senegal and Moslehuddin in India.

But New Delhi said it had not been able to locate any of them, and asked for more information.

Home Minister Asaduzzaman Khan claimed that Bangladeshis living in Germany saw Moslehuddin there.

He said they had also learnt that Noor was in Canada and Rashed in the USA but did not say the exact locations of the trio.

However, security and intelligence activities have been strengthened to find out the locations, added the minister.

Earlier, the government had also appointed a foreign law firm to take necessary steps for bringing the fugitive killers back from the USA and Canada but the “top assignment” has not succeeded yet.

In 2011, the government had appointed a Canadian law firm help the government bring back Noor.

Also, the government sent their photos and details to major airports abroad after the Interpol issued the arrest warrants.

Bangladesh made a global appeal to track down the killers at the 78th annual general meeting of Interpol in Singapore in October, 2009.

In August 2010, the then foreign minister Dipu Moni sent formal letters to certain countries, seeking cooperation for deporting the remaining killers as they were believed to be hiding there.

On October 5, 2011, she again wrote to the then Canadian foreign minister John Baird and US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with request to handover Noor and Rashed to Bangladesh to face justice.

However, Canada declined to deport Noor, as the Canadian policy does not approve sending back a person where there is the provision of death sentence.

In response, the Bangladesh government argued that the fugitives on their return could appeal to the higher court against the conviction and seek review of the verdict from the Appellate Division. Thereafter, they could also appeal to the president for clemency.

So, it was not correct that they would face punishment soon as they were brought back, said the government.

Akramul Qader, the then Bangladesh ambassador to the US, on March 29, 2012 made a formal request to US congressman Peter King, also chairman of the US House Committee on Homeland Security, to send back Rashed.

Dipu Moni raised the issue of deporting Rashed during her bilateral meetings with Hillary Clinton in Washington DC on October 10, 2011 and again during an official meeting with the US secretary of state in Dhaka on May 5, 2012."

http://www.thedailystar.net/backpage/four-could-not-even-be-traced-1269388



@Nilgiri
 
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The biggest issue is that we tried to kill her for her overly pro Indian views. Mujib was many things but he did not carry hatred for Pakistan until very late.

Hasina has taken it on a personal level and is propgating the exaggerated figures of genocide that the Indians have played into.

Yes, unforgivable humanitarian crimes were comitted against Bangladeshis who wanted nothing more than to be treated as equals by the Punjabi/pathan brown sahibs.

Yet, leaving aside those in the leadership and bureaucratic setups- very few military officers and men actually committed war crimes as a percentage. The indians abused their victory and their absolute control over the Bahni to distort this and brainwash the bengali population.

So while there is an apology needed which in my view will Always be wholly inadequate to the injustice done to what was the largest group to vote for Pakistan ; there is no need to concede to the ridiculous claims put forward by the Hasina camp.

These are essentially the echoes of her Indian masters and so long as she is in power, Bangladesh is a vassal state for India.
Yeah, but Pakistan is too proud to make an Apology. An apology is only reasonable when Pakistan acknowledge their involvement in the inhuman acts committed.

Look at what Japan is doing. They have acknowledged and id now sending sorry letters. So that they can move on and get along.
India still holds some influence over Bangladesh. Which is quite normal. Just like US has some leverage over the west, Pakistan has more or less control over Taliban. China over NK and so on.
 
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Yeah, but Pakistan is too proud to make an Apology. An apology is only reasonable when Pakistan acknowledge their involvement in the inhuman acts committed.

Look at what Japan is doing. They have acknowledged and id now sending sorry letters. So that they can move on and get along.
India still holds some influence over Bangladesh. Which is quite normal. Just like US has some leverage over the west, Pakistan has more or less control over Taliban. China over NK and so on.
Pakistan could rub their noses in the ground and the Indian vassal state would not budge.

An apology can only be given to independent nations, not bangladesh in its current government
 
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People need to ask what does Hasina hope to gain from antagonizing Pakistan? She's using it to destroy her enemies. What a good way to attack Jamaatis than associate them with Pakistan? I mean Hasina visited Pakistan in 1998! Hasina was also in an electoral alliance with Jamaat too.

I doubt her vendetta against Pakistan is personal, but a calculated political move.
 
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People need to ask what does Hasina hope to gain from antagonizing Pakistan? She's using it to destroy her enemies. What a good way to attack Jamaatis than associate them with Pakistan? I mean Hasina visited Pakistan in 1998! Hasina was also in an electoral alliance with Jamaat too.

I doubt her vendetta against Pakistan is personal, but a calculated political move.

You guys need to keep your colony in check. :)
 
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Pakistan could rub their noses in the ground and the Indian vassal state would not budge.

An apology can only be given to independent nations, not Bangladesh in its current government

I don't think you believe Bangladesh is a full blown suzerain of India. It has relations with China and almost deals with India equally. If you think they doesn't support Pakistan is because they have dislikes for some obvious reasons yet they repeatedly asked for acknowledgement.
Pakistan and Bangladesh can have normal and friendly relation over an official apology. As simple as that.
 
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Pakistan and Bangladesh can have normal and friendly relation over an official apology. As simple as that.


There will never be an "apology". They can cry until the end of time, we don't care.

Pakistan doesn't need to have "normal" relations with that worthless country. It should have no relations with it at all.
 
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I don't think you believe Bangladesh is a full blown suzerain of India. It has relations with China and almost deals with India equally. If you think they doesn't support Pakistan is because they have dislikes for some obvious reasons yet they repeatedly asked for acknowledgement.
Pakistan and Bangladesh can have normal and friendly relation over an official apology. As simple as that.
I believe that Hasina is a full blown sar up for India. Her China compulsion comes from the greater Bangladesh state machinery. In addition, India too has no issues with China dealing in because both economies are dependent.
But where it comes to Pakistan, Bangladesh is an Indian toady through and through
 
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In 2004 Pakistani backed HUJI attacked Hasina with grenade. Top suspect Tajul Islam was sent to Pakistan by the then BNP government. Besides in 1975 Bhutto arranged aircraft to carry her father's killer to Libya.
Do you have any independent source other then BAN and IND? to prove your statement
 
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In 2004 Pakistani backed HUJI attacked Hasina with grenade. Top suspect Tajul Islam was sent to Pakistan by the then BNP government. Besides in 1975 Bhutto arranged aircraft to carry her father's killer to Libya.

HuJI is sponsored and created by India to promote extremism in Bangladesh. Go check your own intelligence sources you might come to know about facts.
 
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how about Bangladeshi give us the heads of those Mukhti bahini first who committed treason ... apology to the lungi ? _|_ here you go
 
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All Pakistan has to do is apologise for deaths and raping of Bangladeshi people and the relationship will improve as they are bounded by Islam.

It will just take those few words to make Bangladesh go into Pakistan camp
 
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You allowed raw,Indian army on our land without permission.only a traitor can do it.you think India will always be there to save you from Pakistan? You will pay heavily. Bangladesh will pay,traitors will pay.
:rofl:.....how are you gonna do that?
 
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