Bangladesh voices concern over rise of Islamophobia, terrorism globally

[suresh1773]

Do these rag-tag Muslim extremist groups or a few hundreds rioting mobs enjoy the state patronage? Do they lead a country of 1.4 billion people? Do they have 4th largest military in the world? Do they possess nuclear weapons? Do they have capabilities to invade countries and kill millions? Don't they get mercilessly hunted down by law enforcement agencies around the world? Don't you see the obvious power imbalance between these Muslim extremist groups and the ruling Hindutva power base of India? Now tell me if I am wrong to say that, Hindutva fascism/Nazism is more of a danger to Muslims than these extremist groups to Hindus.

These Hindu Nazis are preparing for a day when they can kill Indian Muslims and invade Pakistan and Bangladesh to cleanse the entire South Asia of Muslims and restore the ''glorious Ancient Bharat''. Do any extremist Muslim group or rioting mobs have this type of plan or most importantly power to execute such thing against India or Hindus?

Attacks against Hindu temples and Hindus in Bangladesh are increasing year after year. Whether the extremist groups in Bangladesh enjoys state patronage or not, it is another matter. The biggest threat to Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan are the Islamic extremists. If the terrorist attacks against foreigners continue like the Holy Artsian one, ur country will sink into oblivion.

Infact more Hindus and Sikhs are migrating from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan to India then Indian Muslims going to these countries

Lastly we don’t need to invade Bangladesh, incase of Pakistan and Afghanistan they are already invaded by TTP,ISIS and other extremist elements

 

[sonargon]

Attacks against Hindu temples and Hindus in Bangladesh are increasing year after year. Whether the extremist groups in Bangladesh enjoys state patronage or not, it is another matter. The biggest threat to Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan are the Islamic extremists. If the terrorist attacks against foreigners continue like the Holy Artsian one, ur country will sink into oblivion.

Infact more Hindus and Sikhs are migrating from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan to India then Indian Muslims going to these countries

Lastly we don’t need to invade Bangladesh, incase of Pakistan and Afghanistan they are already invaded by TTP,ISIS and other extremist elements

You really don't understand Bangladesh or Bangladesh society. Bangladesh is not like Pakistan or Afghanistan. Islamic extremism in Bangladesh will inevitably be limited. Simply because the population growth is capped and land is sparse.

In Pakistan and Afghanistan it is easy to smuggle weapons into the country. It is also easy to exploit ethnic tensions and rally people to an Islamic cause on the basis of ethnic struggle. In both of these countries you can plan operations from a neighbouring country that has ideological sympathies. This lets you evade detection from the state.


None of this is the case in Bangladesh. It doesn't border any muslim countries. Most of the population identifies as the same ethnic group. The country is highly interdependent. No one is living in isolated villages free from the watchful eye of the state. What do you think will happen if some Bangladeshi extremists try to operate from India or Myannmar? Will they find any allies in these countries? LOL.

The reason for the Bangladesh extremism so far is simply because the state is incompetent. If they were competent they could crack down hard. They really don't even have to do all that much, just monitor all Facebook traffic LOL. But you guys push a highly incompetent political party full of morons on us who can't even do that. I think its because your own politicians are incompetent in nature and thus fail to recognize incompetent people themselves.

If the state were competent in Bangladesh, people would quickly fall in line. The state effectively holds all the power. When you think of Bangladesh think of an island.

 

[suresh1773]

But you guys push a highly incompetent political party full of morons on us who can't even do that. I think its because your own politicians are incompetent in nature and thus fail to recognize incompetent people themselves.

Yeah "we guys push a highly incompetent political party.
OUR politicians are incompetent and full of morons." That’s why Indian economy is ranked 5th. Mind boggling logic, first learn to judge yourself and not your neighbours. Before this the Indian economy was ranked 10. So from 10 rank to 5 rank, this is no joke or child’s play With 1.2 billion people and the world's third-largest economy in purchasing power parity terms, India's recent growth has been a significant achievement. Further, in India, the major contributor to exports is from services and not merchandise The services sector is the most vibrant sector in India.

Even The World Bank on Tuesday projected the Indian economy to grow at a robust 6.6 per cent in 2023-24 (FY24), slowing down from an estimated 6.9 per cent in 2022-23 (FY23), citing “limited spillovers” to Asia's third-largest economy from a projected global slowdown.

Suresh - Bombay

 

[suresh1773]

None of this is the case in Bangladesh. It doesn't border any muslim countries. Most of the population identifies as the same ethnic group. The country is highly interdependent.

There are reports of British muslims of Bangladeshi origin joining ISIS, does UK border any muslim country.. What about the attack on the Sri Lankan church by a ISIS BOMBER, Does Sri Lanka border any Muslim country. Poor logic . The attackers who attacked the Holy Artisan eatery, were from good families and had the privilege of going to good reputed schools. A few attacks like this and the economy of Bangladesh will take a heavy beating. In 2008 the Sri Lankan cricket team was attacked by extremists and after this many of the cricket teams refused to visit Pakistan. In fact the biggest threat to Bangladesh comes from Islamic extremists The Islamic extremists in Bangladesh or Pakistan are against family planning and many of them have would love to have more than a dozen kids. They are least concerned about the economy ranking or economic meltdown

 

[bluesky]

Hindutva extremism and fascism is much more of a danger for World peace right now than any Islamic extremism.

The thread is all about Islamic extremism. But, you are taking it to another discussion talking about Hinduism just to disorient people from talking about the extremism of the Muslims. Pray open another thread on Hinduism.

 

[sonargon]

Yeah "we guys push a highly incompetent political party.
OUR politicians are incompetent and full of morons." That’s why Indian economy is ranked 5th. Mind boggling logic, first learn to judge yourself and not your neighbours. Before this the Indian economy was ranked 10. So from 10 rank to 5 rank, this is no joke or child’s play With 1.2 billion people and the world's third-largest economy in purchasing power parity terms, India's recent growth has been a significant achievement. Further, in India, the major contributor to exports is from services and not merchandise The services sector is the most vibrant sector in India.

Even The World Bank on Tuesday projected the Indian economy to grow at a robust 6.6 per cent in 2023-24 (FY24), slowing down from an estimated 6.9 per cent in 2022-23 (FY23), citing “limited spillovers” to Asia's third-largest economy from a projected global slowdown.

Suresh - Bombay

I'm really not impressed by economic stats and metrics. Your the fifth largest economy because you have a ton of people. When it comes to India, I really don't care what the stats say, I just look at the conduct of Indian people and realize your economy may be developing but your culture and society is absolutely not. And in that case I don't see you as a valid example.

Just look at Indian society. The people lack work ethic, conscientiousness, and discipline. They are too consumed by status chasing. Ultimately they do not care for one another and it shows in how divided your country still is.

I don't envy your services sector either. Its not something to be proud of. Most of the Indian service consultancies produce absolute garbage work. And its not very uplifting for your economy either. The world runs on real things, not services. A people who do not know how to build REAL things with good quality is doomed to fail. I would not be proud that people in my country work at glorified call centers and office jobs. Some of the most soulless jobs the 21'st century. You Indians look down on manual labor and think "white collar" jobs are so good for your economy that it bites you in the *** and robs your people of real development.

You don't read my other posts. I judge Bangladesh a lot. Its not good in its current form. I can recognize that Bangladesh sucks while also recognizing India sucks.

There are reports of British muslims of Bangladeshi origin joining ISIS, does UK border any muslim country.. What about the attack on the Sri Lankan church by a ISIS BOMBER, Does Sri Lanka border any Muslim country. Poor logic . The attackers who attacked the Holy Artisan eatery, were from good families and had the privilege of going to good reputed schools. A few attacks like this and the economy of Bangladesh will take a heavy beating. In 2008 the Sri Lankan cricket team was attacked by extremists and after this many of the cricket teams refused to visit Pakistan. In fact the biggest threat to Bangladesh comes from Islamic extremists The Islamic extremists in Bangladesh or Pakistan are against family planning and many of them have would love to have more than a dozen kids. They are least concerned about the economy ranking or economic meltdown

Again you don't really understand Bangladeshi society. Majority of British Bangladeshi's are from Sylhet and the descendants of those who immigrated to the UK in the 60's. Sufficient time has passed, and many of these descendants follow a culture that is separate from mainstream Bangladeshi culture.

The UK is an immigrant country. So even though it does not border many muslim countries, it attracts muslims from around the world to settle in it. In that way it does not need to border muslim countries because everyone from the muslim countries just accumulates there, resulting in the same effect. Bangladesh is not an immigrant country. It is a homogenous country that borders nations it has little ideological connection to.

Sri Lanka is not a good example. Sri Lanka is not a homogenous country. There is contention between ethnic groups and the 3 major religions (only 2 in Bangladesh). This contention manifests itself in terrorism.

Holy Artisan is a good example because it works against your argument. After that happened the state cracked down hard because it was finally forced to. Has there been any major attacks since then? It shows that if the state really tried they could crush insurgency and people would immediately fall in line. Bangladesh is a small country. Theres not many places to hide. You need to get your head out of internet logic and realize that movements in the real world are constrained by REAL factors like logistics and geography. Ideology alone isn't enough, only true followers believe such things.