Bangladesh Economic & Infrastructure Development - Updates & Discussions

[Nilgiri]

A $100 million per year earning through getting an outsourcing job is paltry when the workforce is 5.5 lakh. It becomes a yearly earning of $15 only. On top of this, our benevolent ICT minister will employ 20 lakh people. So, where is the income?

A country's ICT sector is not controlled by the govt. Neither the govt employs them. So, let the private companies keep on working in this field and get sub-contract jobs by directly competing against the Indian ICT sector.

I'm assuming the freelancers have other jobs too....so this is not their only income. Its a part time job you can say.

Thus you can get large freelancer number estimates and not that big revenue...given they only commit some hours per day to it on average. In fact what if someone just dabbles a bit in freelancing etc?...they would likely get counted as one that year....though they barely did anything. It depends on the surveying norms and quality.

@Atlas

 

[bluesky]

I'm assuming the freelancers have other jobs too....so this is not their only income. Its a part time job you can say.

Thus you can get large freelancer number estimates and not that big revenue...given they only commit some hours per day to it on average. In fact what if someone just dabbles a bit in freelancing etc?...they would likely get counted as one that year....though they barely did anything. It depends on the surveying norms and quality.

@Atlas

Points noted. However, I think the freelancer will keep themselves busy in ICT related works if they get the volume. I have checked some ICT (programmers?) guys in Dhaka they earn more per hour doing this than they get from other sources.

However, I do not think the illiterate govt ministers have any real function except to make the internet communications system free of obstacles. But, they keep on promising big in the Parliament. They produce some superficial futuristic employment figures that will not come by.

To be recognized by the West is the core issue and that does not come easy and fast when Indian engineers are far ahead of us with the worldwide network they have established during the last 40 years. It is a matter of experience, capability, trustworthiness and the likes that need a long time to establish.

 

[Nilgiri]

However, I do not think the illiterate govt ministers have any real function except to make the internet communications system free of obstacles. But, they keep on promising big in the Parliament. They produce some superficial futuristic employment figures that will not come by.

Hence why I tagged @Atlas heh. He knows more on this issue than I do.

 

[VikingRaider]

Citing data recently pulled from Upwork and other freelancer platforms, which helps companies get skilled freelancers, Saidur said businesses spent around $930 million on hiring remote independent workers around the globe in 2014, up from $750 million of 2013. He said the amount is expected to exceed more than $10 billion globally by 2020.

In terms of earnings, Bangladesh is ranked seventh among 186 countries where online jobs are outsourced to, he said.

Currently, the country has around 5.5 lakh freelancers registered with different freelance marketplaces. Upwork had 4.5 lakh registered users in Bangladesh.

Firstly watch this video from the verified FB page of freelancer.com . Here you can find two Bangladeshi freelancers are in top ten list , and one named Nasim .

https://www.facebook.com/

Then Watch the youtube channel of MR Nasim ( try to watch his other vidoes too ,a and also few real youtubers who are actually true freelancers who are trying to serve Bangladesh without business interest ) , star with this video ,

And then watch the video

most of those 4.5 lakhs are fake and are responsible for making life harder for new freelancers of Bangladesh in various market places . They think that freelancing is something where peoples can earn millions of dollars by clicking and filling captcha !!!! They went to upwork and then just screwed up Bangladesh . So who were skilled peoples in upwork they are safe but for new Bangladeshi , upwork became extremely hard to get their account approved .

UPwork is world biggest online market place and now they put lots of restrictions , because of such fake accounts mostly for peoples of south Asia ( specially Bangladesh ) just made harder for getting approvals for skilled but new Bangladeshi freelancers .

If Bangladesh will not put restriction on such fake peoples ( I do not know if putting restriction is possible or not , but NID verification can be a good way ) , then real skilled peoples of Bangladesh ( who are trying to get account approval that is extremely hard in upwork now a days ) will be saved .

there are other market places too like freelancer , top pal , PeoplePerHour , Fiverr , 99 ndesigns ........ . And such fake activities also can be very negative for Bangladesh too , and that will result huge problem like upwork in this section, as in upwork it's totally a mess ( approval problem) for new Bangladeshi skilled freelancers , only because of such massive amount of fake accounts ( created at past without any skills ; when laws were not strict there .

Really Bangladesh can earn billions of dollars literally from freelancing specially IT based sector , but not with the marketing of fake numbers of account but govt need make this ground very hard for fakes and friendly for skilled peoples . And now another video that Freelancer.com stopped bank withdrawal for Bangladeshi freelancers because of technical issue since more than one month , and you see know news in Bangladeshi newspapers and news channels right ?

Govt really need to focus heavily on it and also freelancers in Bangladesh need various method of money withdrawal , and also this sector demands special care . Otherwise earning billions of dollars will remain a dream .

@bluesky , and @Nilgiri here is your answer too . Skilled peoples can earn huge amount of money specially from IT sectors , but fake peoples can earn nothing . And What is actually freelancing ? An example from real life , you probably know about many freelancer journalist right ? Simply who do not work with a fixed salary but do jobs in various contract jobs in various places .

So same goes for other freelancers who are skilled in various subjects like IT sectors , Web design and development, SEO , graphics design and many more can work in various market places and can earn literally 3-5 times more money than our govt or other companies pay. Simply they ( freelancers ) are working like expats, and can generate huge amount revenue flow for Bangladesh.

Bangladeshi govt is too dumb and illiterate to understand this reality and not doing strict monitoring in this section . And fake accounts are really causing huge problems for skilled new Bangladeshi freelancers .

So statistically you can not get the amount of earning from this sector , as 450000 upwork account mostly are fake and for the fake account UpWork approval became extremely hard.
But the Saidur rahman ( that bilal referred) is preaching for marketing as if it is the marketing specialist of UPWork in bangladesh .

@Nilgiri

 

[Nilgiri]

Thanks @Atlas you know lot more about it than I do on this field. So I thought its best you say your bit.

 

[VikingRaider]

Thanks @Atlas you know lot more about it than I do on this field. So I thought its best you say your bit.

No man , not more , just trying to open eyes . our Bangladeshi fellows should seriously try to open eyes and should prefer quality over quantity ! Otherwise this sector will be completely fuked up and many new peoples will lose interest in freelancing. Bangladesh really can earn huge in this sector with skilled peoples , and because of such fake accounts, getting approval ( for real and skilled peoples ) can be extremely harder in other market places too ( like upwork )and peoples will lost interest.@Nilgiri

 

[Bilal9]

@Atlas.

Upwork has an office in Bangladesh. I believe registering the freelancers there with NIDs and doing bio-metric verification could be a start. All freelance companies should be represented locally to avoid the fraud problem.

There is no need to single out Bangladesh as the source of all fraud, people will question your credibility that way. Fraud happens everywhere, even in the US. And certainly all over the subcontinent.

Please comment elsewhere because this is a news thread only, not a discussion forum.

 

[Nilgiri]

There is no need to single out Bangladesh as the source of all fraud, people will question your credibility that way. Fraud happens everywhere, even in the US. And certainly all over the subcontinent.

You don't get it do you? It disproportionately affects those that do not have capacity built up since you are relatively new. Thus such a country has to take even more steps than it otherwise would have to....to curtail this as much as possible and even have a genuine chance of grabbing some of the pie on offer.

But you still brainlessly approaching this with "no need to single out BD for it"....i.e laissez faire+time will solve it naturally and magically build up competition with the behemoths?

You just don't have any inkling about this stuff. Thankfully other Bangladeshis do and are willing to call out the relevant parties and at least criticize them.

 

[VikingRaider]

@Atlas.

Upwork has an office in Bangladesh. I believe registering the freelancers there with NIDs and doing bio-metric verification could be a start. All freelance companies should be represented locally to avoid the fraud problem.

There is no need to single out Bangladesh as the source of all fraud, people will question your credibility that way. Fraud happens everywhere, even in the US. And certainly all over the subcontinent.

@Bilal9
I am not single outing Bangladesh man , I wrote South Asia and then wrote Bangladesh specially because I have no idea of the condition of India and Pakistan and they are not my concern too. You totally misinterpreted my comment ! ফেক অ্যাকাউন্ট বলতে বুঝাইছি যে আগে অনেক অনেক লোক কাজ কাম ভাল করে না জেনেই অ্যাকাউন্ট খুলে বসে থাকত আর এদের জন্যেই আজকাল নতুন দের অ্যাপ্রভাল পাওয়াটা কঠিন হয়ে গেছে আপওয়ার্কে , এই কড়াকড়ির কারন হল কাজ না জেনে যেন কেউ আর এভাবে অ্যাকাউন্ট না খুলতে পারে !

Please comment elsewhere because this is a news thread only, not a discussion forum.

Okay Thank you I will not reply here anymore with such type comments that can cause misunderstanding .

 

[Nilgiri]

Okay Thank you I will not reply here anymore .

It literally says discussions in the thread title

You don't have to obey the princess....her temper tantrums are fun to watch

@bluesky @Mage

 

[VikingRaider]

It literally says discussions in the thread title

I saw this title , but actually I do not check thread list often. When you tagged me , I thought it's a normal thread ( not sticky; I entered here directly by clicking notification) and the OP is Bilal and he no longer welcome discussion in this thread ,and that's why I assured him that I did not want to be the cause of any misunderstanding in his thread .

But Now I saw that this is a sticky thread , and posted by @BDforever.

Thanks for showing me that this thread is a sticky thread !

@Nilgiri

 

[bluesky]

But I thought China buys so much more from BD than India? Given they have no "NTB" like us and have even opened the premature walton stronk guy celebration again:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bd-set-to-get-dfqf-access-to-china.600348/#post-11148134

@bluesky

What this @bluesky can answer when in reality China is flooding the entire world with its shoddy and cheap products where BD is unable to resist the temptation of buying machines and engineering goods from China. BD has very little to sell to China.

However, the case of India is different. BD has an unlimited number of items that Indian consumers would love to buy. But, neither Modi in Delhi nor Mamata in Kolkata wants to open the Indian market for our goods. Because our high-quality goods will destroy Indian industries. After all, Indian labor productivity is lower than that of BD.

 

[Bilal9]

Goyal (Wild Cattle or Bongai) breeding in Bangladesh getting more popular as these short/stocky wild cattle are built for our environment. The meat has very little stringy taste and much reduced fat content.

 

[Nilgiri]

But Now I saw that this is a sticky thread , and posted by @BDforever.

Thanks for showing me that this thread is a sticky thread !

Sure miss that guy (BDforever). Did you get to interact with him much? He is a good person.

What this @bluesky can answer when in reality China is flooding the entire world with its shoddy and cheap products where BD is unable to resist the temptation of buying machines and engineering goods from China. BD has very little to sell to China.

However, the case of India is different. BD has an unlimited number of items that Indian consumers would love to buy. But, neither Modi in Delhi nor Mamata in Kolkata wants to open the Indian market for our goods. Because our high-quality goods will destroy Indian industries. After all, Indian labor productivity is lower than that of BD.

I love your replies sometimes haha (coz I cannot tell when you are being serious and when sarcastic).

Yes your high-quality goods are destroying us all "on their own" already:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...to-high-duties-study/articleshow/67933119.cms

and as you can see its because our labour productivity is far far lower than yours :

https://www.ilo.org/ilostat/faces/w..._afrWindowMode=0&_adf.ctrl-state=19mfdpebb5_4

@GeraltofRivia @Aung Zaya

 

[VikingRaider]

Sure miss that guy (BDforever). Did you get to interact with him much? He is a good person.

Nah , even never had chance to discuss in any thread, it looks he does not post anymore,atleast since I have registered I haven't seen him in any discussion!

But familiar with some of his threads before registering here. He used to post military related threads. But now a days other than sticky threads I see no Defence discussion in this subforum!