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Baiyue are extinct thousand years ago, their relative are Zhuang and other minorities in Guangxi. Vast majority in the south are Han Chinese.
You have a habit of using race/ethnicity to serve your trolling purpose. And you prey on Chinese who isn't knowledgeable on the subject. Does it help you get over your inferiority complex? That Kinh Vietnamese don't even have same blood line. North Vietnamese are Austro-Asiatic people mixed with Tai-Kadai/Chinese. Central Vietnam are mostly Cham people (Austronesian). South Vietnam are Khmer Cambodian people--ironically closer to your Austro-Asiatic origin.
You are not even native to North Vietnam. Early Dongsong culture belonged to Tai-Kadai people. Your ancestors stole their history and mythology, calling it your own after you came to power. Even claiming South China as your home land.
This is your native land before you moved up to North Vietnam during Chinese rule.
Ok so the same dude who said Vietnamese is mon-khmer now said Vietnamese is Austro Asiatic mixed with Tai Kadai . I wonder have you even finished third grade school.Baiyue are extinct thousand years ago, their relative are Zhuang and other minorities in Guangxi. Vast majority in the south are Han Chinese.
You have a habit of using race/ethnicity to serve your trolling purpose. And you prey on Chinese who isn't knowledgeable on the subject. Does it help you get over your inferiority complex? That Kinh Vietnamese don't even have same blood line. North Vietnamese are Austro-Asiatic people mixed with Tai-Kadai/Chinese. Central Vietnam are mostly Cham people (Austronesian). South Vietnam are Khmer Cambodian people--ironically closer to your Austro-Asiatic origin.
You are not even native to North Vietnam. Early Dongsong culture belonged to Tai-Kadai people. Your ancestors stole their history and mythology, calling it your own after you came to power. Even claiming South China as your home land.
This is your native land before you moved up to North Vietnam during Chinese rule.
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In ancien time, Bai Yue 百越/百粵 icluded 100 (does mean that there is too many) triber of Yue 越/粵 people in different ethnic grooppe in southerner China, when Han chinese was living in North Chine.
When Qin and Han Dynastries invaded in to South, there was indicated with the origin name of the land area, which was belonging to Yue 越/粵.
It is superous complex, bro.
In case Vietic does belong to Auroasiatic language. Today, around 110 million people speak this language, Vietnamese/kinh people we are 90 million. We are in majority.
Today, in central Vietnam, Chanp peopel is 20,000 , Khmer Krom is around 1,000,000 people.
駱越 Lạc Việt, Vietnmese/Kinh moved up to South China, there one Yue beyong to Bai Yue Van Lang state of our Hung Kings Emperor is reached to Dongding lake in Hunan China. Under invasion of Han Chinese, our ancestors had turned back to North Vietnam area today.
4,000 year ago, Red River delta was under level of sea.
Among the early [Tai-Kadai] Daic states were those of Van Lang, located northwest of Hanoi where the Red, Black, and Clear rivers merge in Vinh Phu province
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Textiles of the Daic Peoples of Vietnam - Michael C. Howard, Kim Be Howard - Google Books
駱越 Van Lang state of our Hung Kings Emperor is reached to Dongding lake in Hunan China. Under invasion of Han Chinese, our ancestors had turned back to North Vietnam area today.
Around 3,000 year ago, Red River delta was under level of sea.
Yue is Chinese word, not Vietnamese word. It's a term for variety of ethnic groups which you were not part of, as there were no Austro-Asiatic people in South China. Your ancestors took the name Yue from Tai-Kadai (dai) people, like how you stole Dongsong culture from them. The early inhabitant of North Vietnam were Tai-Kadai, your Austro-Asiatic ancestors still in Cambodia/Laos.
Among the early [Tai-Kadai] Daic states were those of Van Lang, located northwest of Hanoi where the Red, Black, and Clear rivers merge in Vinh Phu province
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Textiles of the Daic Peoples of Vietnam - Michael C. Howard, Kim Be Howard - Google Books
駱越 and Hung King ancestors moved up to South China, then came down again? You know very well how absurd your lie is. Anything new from coming from you people?
1) Hung King never existed.
2) Hung King is mythology, a Tai-Kadai mythology that you stole. Your historian even compiled a fake history claiming a long line of political succession starting from Hung Kings. This has been well debunked.
Busted!
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Keith Taylor's "A History of the Vietnamese
The Biography of the Hồng Bàng Clan as a Medieval Vietnamese Invented Tradition
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Ok so the same dude who said Vietnamese is mon-khmer now said Vietnamese is Austro Asiatic mixed with Tai Kadai . I wonder have you even finished third grade school.
Read the genetic research in the summary part, come back and tell me what it said. I just want to make sure you understand it and comprehend well.
http://www.genetics.org/content/130/1/139.full.pdf
What's Austro-Asiatic people? I have questioned lots of persons here, nobody can answer it.
What's Austro-Asiatic people? I have questioned lots of persons here, nobody can answer it.
Look at this DNA configuration, and yes even Chinese has Austronesian DNA as well, particularly Cantonese and Taiwanese, they are mix with Taiwanese aborigine I guess.
You confused Austro-Asiatic with Austronesian.
It is DNA based, the red one is Austro-Asiatic DNA.
Are you from the moon? Recent archilogist reveal the earlist human came from southern China and Vietnam and so their civilization wet rice culture. The human then gradually expand northward.
Yue is Chinese word, not Vietnamese word. It's a term for variety of ethnic groups which you were not part of, as there were no Austro-Asiatic people in South China. Your ancestors took the name Yue from Tai-Kadai (dai) people, like how you stole Dongsong culture from them. The early inhabitant of North Vietnam were Tai-Kadai, your Austro-Asiatic ancestors still in Cambodia/Laos.
Among the early [Tai-Kadai] Daic states were those of Van Lang, located northwest of Hanoi where the Red, Black, and Clear rivers merge in Vinh Phu province
Page 5
Textiles of the Daic Peoples of Vietnam - Michael C. Howard, Kim Be Howard - Google Books
駱越 and Hung King ancestors moved up to South China, then came down again? You know very well how absurd your lie is. Anything new from coming from you people?
1) Hung King never existed.
2) Hung King is mythology, a Tai-Kadai mythology that you stole. Your historian even compiled a fake history claiming a long line of political succession starting from Hung Kings. This has been well debunked.
Busted!
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Keith Taylor's "A History of the Vietnamese
The Biography of the Hồng Bàng Clan as a Medieval Vietnamese Invented Tradition
JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie
Yue is Chinese word, not Vietnamese word. It's a term for variety of ethnic groups which you were not part of, as there were no Austro-Asiatic people in South China. Your ancestors took the name Yue from Tai-Kadai (dai) people, like how you stole Dongsong culture from them. The early inhabitant of North Vietnam were Tai-Kadai, your Austro-Asiatic ancestors still in Cambodia/Laos.
Among the early [Tai-Kadai] Daic states were those of Van Lang, located northwest of Hanoi where the Red, Black, and Clear rivers merge in Vinh Phu province
Page 5
Textiles of the Daic Peoples of Vietnam - Michael C. Howard, Kim Be Howard - Google Books
駱越 and Hung King ancestors moved up to South China, then came down again? You know very well how absurd your lie is. Anything new from coming from you people?
1) Hung King never existed.
2) Hung King is mythology, a Tai-Kadai mythology that you stole. Your historian even compiled a fake history claiming a long line of political succession starting from Hung Kings. This has been well debunked.
Busted!
View attachment 268938
Keith Taylor's "A History of the Vietnamese
The Biography of the Hồng Bàng Clan as a Medieval Vietnamese Invented Tradition
JSTOR: An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie
They have borrowed mythology from Tai-Kadai, language from Mon-khmer, and culture from Chinese Han? Sounds weird. Kinh was formed quite late with a genetic mixture of the three mentioned above. In addition, they have some native Ds as well as Korean O2b. Viet has nothing to do with China's Baiyue that might be connected to the Austranesians (O1a).
we don't care what fabrications and craps made by such white men did in last century with the mentality of colonialism.
Our history is written by our elites and historian, after 936 ACE Vietnam regained Independence from China. There is 嶺南摭怪, Stories about Lingnan, 大越史略 Brief Hiatory of Great Viet, 大越史記續編序 Great Việt historic clonicle.
What Thai/Katay (Zhuang) people (to day are living in Zhuang auntonom in Guanxi China) did in pat ? Do they have they own history book printed in China ? nothing.
we don't care about such cabage made by White men, fabriated with mentality of coloniasm in the 20th century.
Our history books were written bay our elites and historian from 1,000 year ago, after Vietnam regained Independence from China, from 936 ACE.
There is
嶺南摭怪 Sories about Lingnan (south China),
史記 History (VN) of Do Thien,
越志 Viet Clonicle of Tran Pho,
大越史記 History of Vietnam of Le Van Huu
大越史略 Brief history of Great Viet (unknown historian)
大越史記全書 Full text of History Vietnam.
What did Zhuang (Thai/Katay) people in his history ? Do they have a written books about that ?
Other than now they are minority groupp with Their population, estimated at 18 million people, living in Zhuang Autonom in Quanxi province in China ?
Tai-kadai history are well documented in Chinese record.
Early Dongsong culture belonged to Tai-Kadai people. Your ancestors stole their history and mythology,