BALOCHISTAN STUDENTS GRILL CM PUNJAB OVER CPEC

[Muhammad Omar]

well you can't build or develop everything overnight any where..

there are many projects Included Like

Electricity = 330 MW Coal Power Plant already planned
Water= Purification Plant which was approved on 30 November 2016
Health = 50 bed Hospital was completed recently there
Education= a Primary School was constructed and is now operational in Gwadar
Infrastructure= GDA Chinese FWO etc is working on that.

Everyone weather it's Politicians or DICTATORS neglected Balochistan but now you can see development projects underway there.

and Yeah CPEC is CHINA PAKISTAN ECONOMIC CORRIDOR Everyone is getting their share....

 

[Alternative]

I acknowledge that Balochistan govt and sardars are part of the problem but so is the elevated status of Punjab and Karachi. I am an urdu speaker and acknowledge the problems my ethnic group has caused for others in its wish for (extra?) rights. Though many Punjabis I know have been very introspective Punjabis here on PDF are ethnicentrists who aren't even venturing close to this, going as far as defending their so called demi god Sharif.

Voting for Sharif corrupt mafia is virtually as bad as voting for the violent MQM. They have ruined the nation and since their interests are tied with Sharif and his corruption they support him. Balochistan has a cocktail of problems but it has also been deprived from the federal government. Poverty rate is highest in Balochistan of all provinces and so is the literacy. This situation must be rectified immediately. We cannot afford to have literacy, employment, development and other forms of economic superiority in one region. Even after losing Bangal we have learned nothing. The sardars are not the only threat to Balochistan's development.

If you observe closely, the economic development in any big nation, say India or China or even USA, development, growth, industrialization is not homogeneous: Some parts are highly developed and industrialized, and some parts less and in case of India or China, the differential is humongous:

Reason being industrialization tend to center around certain aspects which contribute or directly influence the future growth potential, for example, population centers, logistical advantages like ports, availability of trained manpower, availability of raw materials etc.

The reason that northern Punjab is more developed is simply because historically that region was richest in region attracting all and sundry, became the economic hub so to speak of that times; that situation changed about 100-150 years ago with rise of industrial revolution, agrarian economies were no longer the rich; But this region remained a significant contributor due to relatively educated/trained populace, market size, availability of raw materials like cotton, sugarcane etc. Stellar rise of Karachi post 1947 till the MQM rise is due to logestical reasons mainly, that is, Seaport.
As in any nation or country, economic centers always exert influence; ample examples are available in politics of USA, India etc.
This all is not a conspiracy to keep anyone underdeveloped, but result of a natural social evolutionary process.

 

[MadDog]

Instead of watching small clips, Please watch the whole discussion. It was a really positive environment, naturally due to lackluster development in Gwadar, some students questioned CM, but one even went as far as saying, that is was because of Shahbaz, Lahore got so much development, he wished if there could be one leader like Shahbaz in Balochistan, their destiny would change. They were extremely happy with the love they recieved, one student even recited poetry dedicated to Shahbaz Sharif.
The girl whose video is posted, said CPEC is making Lahore more developed not Gwadar. Naturally she is a kid, with the abysmal performance of consequent provincial Balochistan govts led by Sardars she was annoyed. Shahbaz replied that this development took decades, Gwadar will get it with CPEC.

In Punjab and KP, middle class was politically mainstreamed, this didn't happen in Balochistan, sardars made it to provincial assembly. First time a man from middle class became CM was Abdul Malik Baloch, that too for 2 years and then Zehri another sardar was made CM.

Shehbaz speech

That's an old video, not from today's.

He asked him why there was no development taking place in Gwadar but Metro Bus schemes were being built in Lahore?

What is the IQ level of such students at first place ?

This will indeed be the IQ level, if quality education isn't provided by unfortunately the sardar led provincial govt.

watch full program here

watch full program here

Its the old video, another group visited today. This video is from May 2016

Punjabis and Urdu speakers must give up some rights so that other provinces can benefit. We need to first recognize that we are in a better position economically than the rest. This will be the first step to solving the problem. Balochistan produces most of the gas for Pakistan yet only Quetta receives it. The electricity is also not provided with households having it for only a few hours a day while cities like Lahore and Islamabad are much better off.

CM has only focused on Punjab.

KP, Punjab have their middle classes politically mainstreamed. In Balochistan there is a need for this, Sardars dominate the provincial assembly there.

 

[That Guy]

Why? This should be taken up with the federal government and the Baluch government.. Shahbaz Sharif's only concern, as CM of Punjab, is Punjab.

 

[Kabira]

Ironic....don't they know SS is Punjab's CM, why don't they grill Baluchistan CM for not doing anything in their province?
It's the same old mentality, don't do anything yourself but don't forget to criticize those who are doing something

Well Balochistan CM is from N league. According to him there has been drastic changes in Balochistan in terms of development.

Instead of watching small clips, Please watch the whole discussion. It was a really positive environment, naturally due to lackluster development in Gwadar, some students questioned CM, but one even went as far as saying, that is was because of Shahbaz, Lahore got so much development, he wished if there could be one leader like Shahbaz in Balochistan, their destiny would change. They were extremely happy with the love they recieved, one student even recited poetry dedicated to Shahbaz Sharif.
The girl whose video is posted, said CPEC is making Lahore more developed not Gwadar. Naturally she is a kid, with the abysmal performance of consequent provincial Balochistan govts led by Sardars she was annoyed. Shahbaz replied that this development took decades, Gwadar will get it with CPEC.

In Punjab and KP, middle class was politically mainstreamed, this didn't happen in Balochistan, sardars made it to provincial assembly. First time a man from middle class became CM was Abdul Malik Baloch, that too for 2 years and then Zehri another sardar was made CM.


That's an old video, not from today's.



This will indeed be the IQ level, if quality education isn't provided by unfortunately the sardar led provincial govt.




Its the old video, another group visited today. This video is from May 2016



KP, Punjab have their middle classes politically mainstreamed. In Balochistan there is a need for this, Sardars dominate the provincial assembly there.

Can you post today video?

well you can't build or develop everything overnight any where..

there are many projects Included Like

Electricity = 330 MW Coal Power Plant already planned
Water= Purification Plant which was approved on 30 November 2016
Health = 50 bed Hospital was completed recently there
Education= a Primary School was constructed and is now operational in Gwadar
Infrastructure= GDA Chinese FWO etc is working on that.

Everyone weather it's Politicians or DICTATORS neglected Balochistan but now you can see development projects underway there.

and Yeah CPEC is CHINA PAKISTAN ECONOMIC CORRIDOR Everyone is getting their share....

 

[MadDog]

Well Balochistan CM is from N league. According to him there has been drastic changes in Balochistan in terms of development.



Can you post today video?

This is whole of it, unfortunately people are misrepresenting it, happened today Dec 21, 2016. The video posted before on this thread is from May 2016, this is today's video.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1163750533660543

 

[I S I]

Pa khair raghle ISI khana singa he jorh ye baraber ye

I'm urdu speaking Khan.

Pa khair raghle ISI khana singa he jorh ye baraber ye

I'm urdu speaking Khan.

 

[Doctor-D]

“The EBM decided to accept plea bargain request of over Rs2 billion of Mushtaq Ahmed Raisani, Secretary Finance Balochistan, and Sohail Majeed Shah, contractor and frontman of Khalid Lango, ex-adviser to Chief Minister Balochistan,” the NAB spokesman confirmed. - Dawn

 

[MadDog]

The students were from balochistan university right ? As it's only university where quality education is lacking as compared to other unis and where teachers were threatened to leave . Balochistan university was used for political gains in past for akbar bugti .


I don't blame these students like some posters are doing here , for me they're not ignorant but are less informed and they need to be taught and provided full information about cpec rather than acting arrogant to balochistan. Acting such arrogant with balochistan won't do you any favour .
I blame all those leaders who have been ruling balochistan but yet failed to provide a quality education .

Exactly they are less informed, they visited Lahore for first time and probably the girl thought the development is linked with CPEC signed last year. Teenagers aren't usually much informed about politics.

You are wrong, they didn't ask how he managed that or what was/is his vision, or how he controls the contractors to complete the projects in time, they asked him, "CPEC is in Baluchistan but why is development in Lahore".

This is not only a stupid question but also reflects on the poor knowledge and intelligence of the students, why? because CPEC is not only in Baluchistan, it is going to benefit all provinces.
CPEC is still in very early stage with no real economic benefits yet.
Lahore didn't develop in the last 12 months, SS has been working on Punjab/Lahore development for the last many years, and lastly Punjab CM is not responsible for Baluchistan.
If a student can't answer a question correctly, is no big deal but if they don't know who to ask what question then they are really dumb.

Mate they are less informed, they were shocked at Lahore's development, it would be a natural shock to some one who has never left Gwadar, a city of 80,000 people and come to Lahore a city of 15 million people. The shock was so much, they thought its due to CPEC. At the same time it was buttressed by frustration due to abysmal performance of Baloch provincial govts, eg electricity and water issue in Gwadar. And naturally due lack of quality education in Gwadar , they will ask some noob questions, they are teenagers afterall, people at this aren't politically well informed.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Well Balochistan CM is from N league. According to him there has been drastic changes in Balochistan in terms of development.



Can you post today video?

The Issue is Everyone want everything to be completed and Functional tomorrow

 

[Alternative]

“The EBM decided to accept plea bargain request of over Rs2 billion of Mushtaq Ahmed Raisani, Secretary Finance Balochistan, and Sohail Majeed Shah, contractor and frontman of Khalid Lango, ex-adviser to Chief Minister Balochistan,” the NAB spokesman confirmed. - Dawn

And this is the Secretary Finance of most impoverished province of Pakistan; We can't even imagine what the civil bureaucracy looting in 'wealthier' provinces.
We usually bash politicians for corruption full time, and in our zealous contempt, totally ignore the loot and incompetence of "Affsar-i-Shahi'.

 

[Airdef95]

He is a pure shameless person not a made in China but made in USA .

Trust me it's a Pakistani product.
Keeping in mind the rigged votes as well, there were and still are a number of people who support Sharif brothers despite knowing how corrupt they are.

 

[Thorough Pro]

but their question was pointed, probably planted by their teachers or Baluchistan beaurocracy involved in this visit.

Exactly they are less informed, they visited Lahore for first time and probably the girl thought the development is linked with CPEC signed last year. Teenagers aren't usually much informed about politics.



Mate they are less informed, they were shocked at Lahore's development, it would be a natural shock to some one who has never left Gwadar, a city of 80,000 people and come to Lahore a city of 15 million people. The shock was so much, they thought its due to CPEC. At the same time it was buttressed by frustration due to abysmal performance of Baloch provincial govts, eg electricity and water issue in Gwadar. And naturally due lack of quality education in Gwadar , they will ask some noob questions, they are teenagers afterall, people at this aren't politically well informed.

 

[khansaheeb]

It's not the first time students from quetta met SS, we've been doing it hundred times . Our teachers , professors also met punjab cm. It's an honour I believe , we've no complain for punjab .
We meet him to increase the relation between punjab and balochistan.

Why should it be an honour to express your views and concerns to accountable politicians? Stop behaving like a colony and start participating as full citizens of Pakistan, you are equals in all respects. What is happening though is that the rulers sit in their glass castle in the capital Islamabad and become detached from reality of the provinces and the people. The occasional trip they make are to privileged areas where the issues of common man are hidden. Solution would be to rotate the capital every 10 years between Islamabad, Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar.

 

[mr.robot]