Baloch video message to PM Modi

[wasileo80]

Here is a tip. India recently tested a SLBM with range 3500 KM. Before that they had tested a SLBM with range 750 KM. Given the lack to strategic depth in Pakistan, it gives a HUGE area for minuscule number of Pakistani submarines to search for Indian SSBN. Infact with 3500 KM missile, it could be hiding somewhere in Bay of Bengal and could still target entire Pakistan. Air defence is not helpful against ballistic missiles. Even US does not have a proven system to defeat a warhead travelling at 35 mach number.

Dont recall 47, 65 and 71, otherwise i will not allow you to run away from facts.

 

[Deepika Maheshwari]

Dont recall 47, 65 and 71, otherwise i will not allow you to run away from facts.

I have called 47, 65 and 99. There is no mention to 71. 71 was India's offensive - to the best of my understanding.

 

[wasileo80]

Had you been really ready, both of us would have been dead by now and the conversation would have been totally different. I think India has called your bluff - lets see in coming few years if you were really ready. I doubt even if all of the Kashmiri -if the situation became grave enough- were put to sword, your army or government will do any thing real.

That said most probably Kashmiris will settle for some goodies like always and will go back to their normal lives. Pakistan will keep on raising the rouble like it has been doing and rest of India will remain indifferent about it.

We been ready since 1971, and you saw the demonstration in 1987, 2002 and 2008 stand off. Ask your high command are they ready to face Pakistan?

I have called 47, 65 and 99. There is no mention to 71. 71 was India's offensive - to the best of my understanding.

So are you sure to start form 47 then come and present your facts. let me give you first chance.

 

[Deepika Maheshwari]

We been ready since 1971, and you saw the demonstration in 1987, 2002 and 2008 stand off. Ask your high command are they ready to face Pakistan?

No, we are not ready to fight with Pakistan unless they attack us. It is a waste of time, money and lives -those who we care about- for us. That said if the push comes to shove, and we are attacked - that too with a nuclear first strike. We will have to retaliate.

 

[wasileo80]

No, we are not ready to fight with Pakistan unless they attack us. It is a waste of time, money and lives -those who we care about- for us. That said if the push comes to shove, and we are attacked - that too with a nuclear first strike. We will have to retaliate.

And same for us, until your govt try to create proxies and you cross the red line then we will have no choice to retaliate too. Its two way game, dont be soo kind that you have value for human life. The whole world saw what your paid TTP and Other elements killed 70000 innocent civillians and how many kashmiris you killed in last 41 days and how many have lost their sight due to pallet gun. The whole world is seeing your kindness and value for human life.

 

[Areesh]

Can anyone tell me who is brahamdagh bugti??
@Tipu7 @Irfan Baloch @DESERT FIGHTER @Areesh

Akbar Bugti's grandson.

I guess 'numbers' is not your strong point, isn't it?

I am pretty good with numbers. These are just hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to USA. There would be many in Canada,Europe and Australia.

The question is that why people want to leave supa puwa India which is a heaven and supa puwa amalgamated into one as per you guys.

Is it because of the fact that India also fails to offer any of the qualities that Canada offers to its citizens?

 

[Deepika Maheshwari]

The question is that why people want to leave supa puwa India which is a heaven and supa puwa amalgamated into one as per you guys.

Is it because of the fact that India also fails to offer any of the qualities that Canada offers to its citizens?

No one, at least not me, claimed that India is a "supa puwa" or heaven. For all we know India may be equally good or bad socially or otherwise for someone in a situations same as the Baloch girl in this video. All I was telling you were the reason why she is better off in Canada compared to Pakistan and why staying back in Pakistan would have been the real mirage for her.
Had she been from India and in this situation, Canada still would have been equally good choice for her for a better life.

About your claim of having illegal immigrants in other countries, well show me some real data. For US atleast we know that your claim of Indians being larger than Mexicans is patently false. Once again, facts are NOT your strong point it seems .

 

[Genghis khan1]

Here is a tip. India recently tested a SLBM with range 3500 KM. Before that they had tested a SLBM with range 750 KM. Given the lack to strategic depth in Pakistan, it gives a HUGE area for minuscule number of Pakistani submarines to search for Indian SSBN. Infact with 3500 KM missile, it could be hiding somewhere in Bay of Bengal and could still target entire Pakistan. Air defence is not helpful against ballistic missiles. Even US does not have a proven system to defeat a warhead travelling at 35 mach number.

Are you telling me that India is planning and practicing a nuclear missile that will fly over it own territory for 95% if it's flight time . I highly doubt Indian Navy would be practicing any such sanario to fire a missile from Bay of bengal all the way to Pakistan. Pretty sure they are for China.

Ok, let suppose Pakistan has toasted India, and Indian restore to its last and only option. Nuclear subs hiding in bay of bengal take their shots at Pakistan. Let's look at Russian missile fired at Syria recently and American fired at Afghanistan in 98. Both crashed landed despite multiple navigation system and satellite links. Now you are telling me, K-4 SLBM on made in India INS alone will not only successful fly over India 95% of the time but will also not overshoot into Iran or Afghanistan at your mentioned speed of MACH 35. At this speed, even a slight deviation of INS calculation and it will take 30 sec for missile to crossover entire Pakistan. Now with only 4 missiles per sub, India will need several dozen nuclear subs to cause any major damage to Pakistan and still hope every missile reach it's target as intended.

As far as 750 km range is concerned. They will be hunted down easily. From Oman to India coast, it's 900 mile across. Every PN Sub, Every Navy Air and sea assets, even the maritime patrol boats will be combing those seas for Indian Subs to make move with between 750 to 800 km mark. Not only that, Since IAF would be vaporized, hundreds of Air Force jet would be at disposal to fly above 750 km mark both as maritime patrol and with AMRAAM to shoot down any missile in it initial stage of launch before it picks up speed.

 

[somebozo]

Apparently she is using this false narrative that Pak army is committing war crimes to gain asylum in Canada, she is no longer in Pakistan, this is all a big lie to get her a Canadian passport, i hope the Canadian government sees sense and sends her back.

I am a member of a group in Facebook and can give you lying Baloch and Afghans by dime a dozen who perform these antics to gain asylum. There is very popular woman named Sualeha Chugtai (assumed name on Facebook.) who has become famous for gaining asylum in USA by faking conversion to Christianity.

Baloch dont bother about Rakhsha Bandhan but the fact that she choose this occasion means it was all pre-planned.

 

[HAIDER]

Apparently she is using this false narrative that Pak army is committing war crimes to gain asylum in Canada, she is no longer in Pakistan, this is all a big lie to get her a Canadian passport, i hope the Canadian government sees sense and sends her back.

Very common practice to get political asylum in West. Hundreds of MQM fakes cases registered in US and EU for asylum. Fake police reports about attack etc etc are very common. Specially , Canada is very strict one of those days to deal with asylum cases. If they see any weakness in case they order deportation within no time.

 

[Deepika Maheshwari]

Ok, let suppose Pakistan has toasted India, and Indian restore to its last and only option.

You have answered your own question. Once India is toast, should we care if there is some risk in flying over Indian territory?
Lastly, I am not privy to deployment plans of Indian subs. They do not need to be only in Bay of Bengal. They can also be anywhere in Arabian sea as well. Try looking for a submarine in large part of Arabian Sea. Last time, IIRC, they tried to look for remains of MH-370 in some parts of the sea and even combined effort of a number of nations failed to locate it in the ocean. Oceans are huge.

Now with only 4 missiles per sub, India will need several dozen nuclear subs to cause any major damage to Pakistan and still hope every missile reach it's target as intended.

Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Multan. Four cities can be hit with current capabilities.

Plus India is already in the process of building more SSBN. Arihant was the first ship of the class. One more Arindam is under development and is said to carry eight K-4s. 12 such missiles can do a great damage. Total planned boats are around 4. So we have 28 missiles for Pakistan.

For china, India is preparing a follow on development on K-4 called K-5. It should be having 5000 KM range.

hundreds of Air Force jet would be at disposal to fly above 750 km mark both as maritime patrol and with AMRAAM to shoot down any missile in it initial stage of launch before it picks up speed.

Boost phase of a missile lasts 3-4 minutes maximum. I doubt that much time will be enough to locate the missile and guide your aircrafts near to missile. Remember, the missile is accelerating all this time. Also it is going up, how long it will remain with in service ceiling of a fixed wing aircraft? Not enough to intercept it.

Now you are telling me, K-4 SLBM on made in India INS alone will not only successful fly over India 95% of the time but will also not overshoot into Iran or Afghanistan at your mentioned speed of MACH 35.

Well, it is called accuracy of the missile and one of the parameters in development of the missile. The reason why India has to do so many tests is to essentially rule this out. Even after being deployed and produced, there are random tests. And relax, its not just India - other

 

[Genghis khan1]

I am a member of a group in Facebook and can give you lying Baloch and Afghans by dime a dozen who perform these antics to gain asylum. There is very popular woman named Sualeha Chugtai (assumed name on Facebook.) who has become famous for gaining asylum in USA by faking conversion to Christianity.

Baloch dont bother about Rakhsha Bandhan but the fact that she choose this occasion means it was all pre-planned.

Lol, I heard some people are even acting gay and lesbian to seek asylum.

 

[Tshering22]

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/karima-baloch-modi-rakshabandhan-appeal/1/743985.html

Now that's a very heart-warming message from this lady.

 

[Deepika Maheshwari]

And same for us, until your govt try to create proxies and you cross the red line then we will have no choice to retaliate too. Its two way game, dont be soo kind that you have value for human life. The whole world saw what your paid TTP and Other elements killed 70000 innocent civillians and how many kashmiris you killed in last 41 days and how many have lost their sight due to pallet gun. The whole world is seeing your kindness and value for human life.

Pakistan has her own proxies - the proxies who attacked Indian parliament and Mumbai. You have Hafiz Saeed, Dawood Ibrahim et al. It seems that India is catching up in this game so they are also getting their own proxies - probably in Afghanistan. This game can go on and we can kill each others people or like government in new delhi suggested, sit and discuss how to deal with it. But seems you want to talk only about Kashmir. So be it. Let the game go on.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Last time, IIRC, they tried to look for remains of MH-370 and even combined effort of a number of nations failed to locate it in the ocean. Oceans are huge.

MH370 wasn't propelling or making any noise, plus unlike PN case, 750 km mark and 900 miles across. They had no Idea and their best guess search area was 60,000 km sq wide.

Boost phase of a missile lasts 3-4 minutes maximum. I doubt that much time will be enough to locate the missile and guide your aircrafts near to missile. Remember, the missile is accelerating all this time.

If missile is in it initial stage it's totally interceptable. If jet are spread over evenly, 3-4 min are more than enough for the them catch any launch and intercept.

Well, it is called accuracy of the missile and one of the parameters in development of the missile. The reason why India has to do so many tests is to essentially rule this out. Even after being deployed and produced, there are random tests.

I am pretty sure Russians and American had this accuracy test down exponentially time more for all their onboard guidance systems than Indians and still their missile failed. Indian only got one INS to began with. I guess India's best bet is to fire their 3500 km missile from Indian ocean in south of Pakistan and hope it won't crash before reaching land.