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Bahrain is still hounding its Shia

Protesters are cowed, but the repression carries on


http://www.economist.com/news/middl...repression-carries-bahrain-still-hounding-its

A SAGGING rope, haphazard barricades—and fear. That is all it has taken to keep Diraz, Bahrain’s largest Shia village, under siege for the past seven months. Two checkpoints bar access to all but residents. Friends and family members are kept out. Grocers offload their wares at the perimeter wall. And the protesters who once thronged to hear the island’s leading Shia cleric, Isa Qassim, deliver his Friday sermon now stay at home. “Forget the thousands who used to join rallies,” says a cleric in a neighbouring village, recalling the protests which erupted after tanks crushed the mass demonstrations for democracy in 2011. “Today we can’t even find ten. Who wants to risk five years of prison and torture for ten minutes of glory?”

Though small, running out of oil and dependent on larger Gulf neighbours, Bahrain typifies how Arab autocrats have crushed the Arab Awakening’s demands for greater representation. After six years of suppression, the Shia opposition is disheartened. Maligned as the cat’s paw of Iran and a threat to Sunni rule in Bahrain, their movement is battered and broken. More than 2,600 political prisoners are in jail, a large number in a kingdom of just 650,000 people. Many of the detainees are children, says a former member of parliament from Wefaq, the Shia party the government banned last year. Hundreds have been exiled, scores barred from travel, and over 300 stripped of their nationality, including Sheikh Qassim. Even the execution on January 15th of three Bahrainis—the first for two decades—roused only sporadic unrest by the island’s opposition.

The “national dialogue” that was espoused during more turbulent times by the king’s son and crown prince, Salman bin Hamad, is on hold. Many of his erstwhile interlocutors are in jail on implausible terrorist charges. The online edition of the last independent daily newspaper was banned on January 16th. Although the graffiti on village walls declare “Death to [King] Hamad”, few youngsters risk more than a token rally before police start firing birdshot. “We had a revolution and we lost,” says a female protest leader now in exile.

Shia and Sunni subjects should share many grievances. Both resent a ruling family that hoards ministerial posts. The king’s uncle, Khalifa bin Salman, is the world’s longest serving prime minister, having been in place for 46 years. The king himself has ruled since the death of his father in 1999. Although the Al Khalifas monopolise power, they spread the pain of austerity. In line with Vision 2030, an economic programme devised for Bahrain by McKinsey, a consultancy, they have cut subsidies on such basics as meat. Even this is not enough. The oil price would have to double to balance the budget. Last year Standard and Poor’s, a ratings agency, judged the country’s debt to be junk.

The government’s fiscal measures have fallen most harshly on Shias. Fellow Gulf states have given billions in aid to prop up the kingdom, but much has been channelled into building housing for Sunnis and foreigners. New mansions, compounds and high-rise blocks screen rundown Shia villages. Undulating parks along the corniche beautify Sunni parts. The authorities have also chipped away at the demographic majority of the Shias, who once made up 60% of the population. A rash of new Hindu temples, churches and Sunni mosques testifies to an influx of non-Shia foreigners. Unusually for the Gulf, Bahrain has opened its doors to Syrian Sunnis from Jordan’s refugee camps. An acrid xenophobia peppers Shia discourse. Shias gibe that even the ruling Al Khalifas, who came from the Arabian hinterland over the water in 1783, are foreigners.

Communal tension is less fierce in the few places where Sunnis and Shias live together. But sects that once shared the same streets in new towns built in the 1980s are now moving apart. Flags of Shia saints hang from the homes on one side of the main road through Hamad Town; Bahraini flags of loyalist Sunnis fly from the other. Intermarriage, too, is getting rarer, says Suhail Algosaibi, who runs an interfaith group. Alone of the Gulf states, Bahrain still marks Ashoura, the holiest day in the Shia calendar, as a public holiday, but divisions are widening. Though some Sunni grandmothers still bake pomegranate cakes for Ashoura, their husbands who once joined the chest-beating rites now furtively watch from afar. For many Sunnis, Shia villages are no-go areas.

Last month Islamic State put out an hour-long video of a Bahraini ideologue from the same tribe as the royal family appealing for Sunni suicide bombers to attack the island’s Shias. And on New Year’s Day militant Shias broke into a high-security jail, freeing ten dissidents and prompting the opposition to ask if it might be more effective underground. “We desperately need a political process,” says Jasim Hussain, a former Wefaq MP. “The country can’t afford anything less.”
 
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@Kuwaiti Girl

Since you have advocated for population movements in Syria, would it not be a great thing if that tiny amount of people in the wider picture (350.000 Shia Bahrainis out of 550.000-600.000 locals of which maybe 10-20% are proponents of a Shia Mullahcrazy) where to be deported and instead Bahrain, after all an GCC state, as per your own views, neutralized the expat Arabs and non-Arabs (I suggest Indonesians as I like them) and in return deported the Mullahcrazy Shia Bahrainis to whatever country would host them?

I mean in the case of Bahrain expat Arabs and non-Arabs (mostly Sunnis) have already been neutralized in the past few years. I think increasing that number could easily change the demographics (65% Shia currently among the locals) within 1 year if not quicker.

I am sure that the US would be very fine with that and everyone in the neighborhood as very few people, outside of those in question, want Shia Mullahcracy rule, in beautiful Bahrain.

I for once know that Saudi Arabians and Kuwaitis going to Bahrain for weekend trips etc. to have some fun (you know what I mean) would not want such a thing to happen.

I think that I am right here as I am usually.

Another solution could be to let this problem be dealt by Saudi Arabian volunteers however I am afraid that this could get ugly.

Not sure yet what to prefer. Both solutions could be final after all. I will ponder upon the choice over some hot Arabic coffee.
 
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@Kuwaiti Girl

Since you have advocated for population movements in Syria, would it not be a great thing if that tiny amount of people in the wider picture (350.000 Shia Bahrainis out of 550.000-600.000 locals of which maybe 10-20% are proponents of a Shia Mullahcrazy) where to be deported and instead Bahrain, after all an GCC state, as per your own views, neutralized the expat Arabs and non-Arabs (I suggest Indonesians as I like them) and in return deported the Mullahcrazy Shia Bahrainis to whatever country would host them?
I never advocated population transfers. You should stop lying, even though this is probably hard for you, considering all the sockpuppet accounts you have around here.

The demographic shifts and population transfers that are taking place in Syria and Iraq are tragic, but the Iranian government is indeed very clever for attempting it. From a geopolitical perspective, it's a sound and clever strategy. But from a moral point of view, it's wrong on so many levels. Likewise, the Bahraini government is also clever for trying to change the demographics of its own country.

So stop lying about what I said in another thread.

As for naturalizing foreigners, I'm all in favor of it, provided no native citizen is stripped of his/her nationality in exchange. I'm in favor of making the GCC less homogeneous and more culturally diverse. It will benefit everyone in the long term. The more cosmopolitan and globalized this region becomes, the more educated, tolerant, open-minded, liberal and democratic it will become in the long term.

As for the Shia Bahrainis, it's not about whether or not they're a majority. I couldn't care less if they become a minority. As I've stated before, I don't really fixate on preserving the status quo.

What matters to me is that every citizen in the GCC has his/her rights protected and respected by law, which is clearly not the case right now. That's what I truly care about. I want the GCC to grant full political, civil, religious, cultural, economic, academic, individual, and social rights to all its citizens, irrespective of their identities. This includes the Shias of Bahrain, who are currently being oppressed, persecuted and treated like dirt by their own government.

What I want is for the GCC to become fully democratic and free. The GCC states must follow in the footsteps of many civilized countries around the world and provide full rights, liberties and freedom to its citizens. Oppression against the Shias of Bahrain must end.
 
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Crush those rafida majoosis
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The demographic shifts and population transfers that are taking place in Syria
You still thinking of that guardian article? The one that quoted FSA and Ahrar al-Sham terrorists? Damn, that author is gonna get a bonus from the Saudis.
 
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I never advocated population transfers. You should stop lying, even though this is probably hard for you, considering all the sockpuppet accounts you have around here.

The demographic shifts and population transfers that are taking place in Syria and Iraq are tragic, but the Iranian government is indeed very clever for attempting it. From a geopolitical perspective, it's a sound and clever strategy. But from a moral point of view, it's wrong on so many levels. Likewise, the Bahraini government is also clever for trying to change the demographics of its own country.

So stop lying about what I said in another thread.

As for naturalizing foreigners, I'm all in favor of it, provided no native citizen is stripped of his/her nationality in exchange. I'm in favor of making the GCC less homogeneous and more culturally diverse. It will benefit everyone in the long term. The more cosmopolitan and globalized this region becomes, the more educated, tolerant, open-minded, liberal and democratic it will become in the long term.

As for the Shia Bahrainis, it's not about whether or not they're a majority. I couldn't care less if they become a minority. As I've stated before, I don't really fixate on preserving the status quo.

What matters to me is that every citizen in the GCC has his/her rights protected and respected by law, which is clearly not the case right now. That's what I truly care about. I want the GCC to grant full political, civil, religious, cultural, economic, academic, individual, and social rights to all its citizens, irrespective of their identities. This includes the Shias of Bahrain, who are currently being oppressed, persecuted and treated like dirt by their own government.

What I want is for the GCC to become fully democratic and free. The GCC states must follow in the footsteps of many civilized countries around the world and provide full rights, liberties and freedom to its citizens. Oppression against the Shias of Bahrain must end.

Oh, really? Did you not state that population movements in Syria done with the blessings of Iran and Iranian-sponsored militias/terrorists, was a necessary evil? Shall I find your posts? For that to occur I would have to search for them which I am not sure that I bother to do but if you insist, I can do so. I would not have stated it had I not seen it.

You see that's the problem with you. You pretend to be neutral and to hate all ME regimes equally (or more or less the same at least) but in reality you are towing the Mullah line. Not strange for a person who apparently joined an international Mullah forum (IMF). At least come forward honestly so people know where they have you.

This deliberate obsession/focus on Arab regime and Erdogan but lack of any condemnation of Mullah's, Al-Assad and the "Axis of Resistance" really is clear. I think at least 10-15 users have noticed this as well and spoken about it openly. One would think that there was something about it.

Extremely strange from an supposed half Brit and person of Baloch origin of all people that was born and breed in Kuwait. Anyway many people don't make any sense so you are not the first one nor the last one.
 
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Very sad. I hope people take rule of their country instead of eternal wahhabi dictators. Indeed PGCC moarchs are the worst of creatures. Thank you UK and US for creating and supporting these creatures. Bloods of thousands Yemenis and millions Muslims from entire world is on hands of UK, US and PGCC "zionist" dictators.

In US, UK book only terrorist dictators can rule and it doesn't how long as long as their wahhabi moarchs supply their dirty evil interests. So democray my @SSS American, british hypocrites!!! We are already seeing your democracy in Emirat, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi (named after a family) and Jordan (half British Jordani monarch).
 
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Very sad. I hope people take rule of their country instead of eternal wahhabi dictators. Indeed PGCC moarchs are the worst of creatures. Thank you UK and US for creating and supporting these creatures. Bloods of thousands Yemenis and millions Muslims from entire world is on hands of UK, US and PGCC "zionist" dictators.

Very sad. I hope people take rule of their country instead of eternal Rafidah Wilayat al-Faqih dictators. Indeed Mullah moarchs are the worst of creatures. Thank you France, UK and US for creating and thank you Russia for supporting these creatures. Bloods of thousands Syrians and millions Muslims from entire world is on hands of UK, US and Mullah "zionist" dictators.

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Oh, really? Did you not state that population movements in Syria done with the blessings of Iran and Iranian-sponsored militias/terrorists, was a necessary evil? Shall I find your posts? For that to occur I would have to search for them which I am not sure that I bother to do but if you insist, I can do so. I would not have stated it had I not seen it.
Why are you such a pathological liar? I never said it was a necessary evil. I clearly said that it was morally wrong but geopolitically clever.

You see that's the problem with you. You pretend to be neutral and to hate all ME regimes equally (or more or less the same at least) but in reality you are towing the Mullah line. Not strange for a person who apparently joined an international Mullah forum (IMF). At least come forward honestly so people know where they have you.
You haven't the faintest idea how batshit crazy the mullah lovers of IMF became due to my presence in that forum lol. I challenged them on so many issues, including women's rights, the Iranian water crisis, the Azerbaijani minority and other minority issues, etc. I even told them that in the event of war between Iran and Israel, Israel would win easily by virtue of its superior military technology.

They went crazy lol.

I don't care about any side, to be frank. I just say what's on my mind, regardless of who it upsets.

And neutrality is perhaps my greatest quality. The fact that I don't identify with anyone in any part of the world is something that I'm proud about.

This deliberate obsession/focus on Arab regime and Erdogan but lack of any condemnation of Mullah's, Al-Assad and the "Axis of Resistance" really is clear. I think at least 10-15 users have noticed this as well and spoken about it openly. One would think that there was something about it.
The users you speak of are resorting to cherry-picking. They selectively attack my posts whenever they read something they don't like, but they ironically like my posts whenever they read something that suits their narratives/agendas.

I started a thread about Kurdish insurgents in Iran, and another thread about Arab separatists in Khuzestan province. I also started a very controversial thread about Iran's strategy of population transfers in Syria.

You just want the members around here to criticize Iran and nobody else lol. It's very obvious.

Extremely strange from an supposed half Brit and person of Baloch origin of all people that was born and breed in Kuwait. Anyway many people don't make any sense so you are not the first one nor the last one.
What's so strange about that?

By the way, does it really matter what my origins are? My father's family migrated from Iranian Balochistan to Kuwait (via present-day UAE) over a hundred years ago. I honestly couldn't care less about the political views of my paternal relatives. They're a mixed bag anyway, and most of them aren't even worthy of my time lol.
 
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Very sad. I hope people take rule of their country instead of eternal Rafidah Wilayat al-Faqih dictators. Indeed Mullah moarchs are the worst of creatures. Thank you France, UK and US for creating and thank you Russia for supporting these creatures. Bloods of thousands Syrians and millions Muslims from entire world is on hands of UK, US and Mullah "zionist" dictators.

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Says the guy who live under Saudi monarchy clan for 3 centuries. Very very insane..... Velayat faghih choose indirectly by people and ALL of our heads are in power with "Direct" Iranians votes. Not sure if you can even get it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Iran

Saudi textbook continue trolling. Bring some reason to prove al Saud Najdi clan, al Khalifa Bahrain clan, Qatar etc... are democracies. :rofl: Enjoy your wahhabi British made dictatorship states.
 
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Why are you such a pathological liar? I never said it was a necessary evil. I clearly said that it was morally wrong but geopolitically clever.


You haven't the faintest idea how batshit crazy the mullah lovers of IMF became due to my presence in that forum lol. I challenged them on so many issues, including women's rights, the Iranian water crisis, the Azerbaijani minority and other minority issues, etc. I even told them that in the event of war between Iran and Israel, Israel would win easily by virtue of its superior military technology.

They went crazy lol.

I don't care about any side, to be frank. I just say what's on my mind, regardless of who it upsets.

And neutrality is perhaps my greatest quality. The fact that I don't identify with anyone in any part of the world is something that I'm proud about.


The users you speak of are resorting to cherry-picking. They selectively attack my posts whenever they read something they don't like, but they ironically like my posts whenever they read something that suits their narratives/agendas.

I started a thread about Kurdish insurgents in Iran, and another thread about Arab separatists in Khuzestan province. I also started a very controversial thread about Iran's strategy of population transfers in Syria.

You just want the members around here to criticize Iran and nobody else lol. It's very obvious.


What's so strange about that?

By the way, does it really matter what my origins are? My father's family migrated from Iranian Balochistan to Kuwait (via present-day UAE) over a hundred years ago. I honestly couldn't care less about the political views of my paternal relatives. They're a mixed bag anyway, and most of them aren't even worthy of my time lol.

Please tell me what happened? 6 months ago you were pro-Arab (you know what I am referring to here) and sensible in the sense that you were objective and wrote things based on facts but nowadays it seems that you have turned around completely. What occurred?

If your family are a mixed bag, I assume that your family has Arab relatives almost in every branch of the family. Did Arabs ever hurt Baloch people, whom you don't seem to have much of a relation to (no offense but I have not seen you talk about them at all, seen you be able to speak Baloch or write Baloch )? No, Arabs welcomed Baloch people who searched for greener pasture, small minority overall or not, but nevertheless we welcomed them and the rulers in many GCC states gave citizenship to them as well. As far as I am aware of locals never bothered them. Sure the previous Sultan of Oman used some of the man mercenaries centuries ago but that was the times back then. And sure some Arabs settled Africans in Makran. But other than that? Did Arabs commit genocide against Baloch (which we theoretically could have done)?

Today nobody, expect of a few people, even think about who is from where originally and intermarriages between locals and Ajam of all origins, are a common thing and have occurred for over 1 millennia in the case of Hijaz and other parts of Arabia. It will only become more common to the extent that there will be no differences anymore which is already the case with most mixtures.

I cannot recognize you that is all.

Says the guy who live under Saudi monarchy clan for 3 centuries. Very very insane..... Velayat faghih choose indirectly by people and ALL of our heads are in power with "Direct" Iranians votes. Not sure if you can even get it...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Iran

Saudi textbook continue trolling. Bring some reason to prove al Saud Najdi clan, al Khalifa Bahrain clan, Qatar etc... are democracies. :rofl: Enjoy your wahhabi British made dictatorship states.

If you ever visited the GCC you would see that it is a world apart compared to Iran. There is a reason why 400.000 of your compatriots have escaped to UAE. As for leaderships, both of our leaderships are shitty. Never denied it unlike you.

Anyway how come do you even have access to social media in Iran? I thought that they were banned. Are you using a proxy? Probably.
 
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If you ever visited the GCC you would see that it is a world apart compared to Iran. There is a reason why 400.000 of your compatriots have escaped to UAE. As for leaderships, both of our leaderships are shitty. Never denied it unlike you.

Anyway how come do you even have access to social media in Iran? I thought that they were banned. Are you using a proxy? Probably.
Lol in Saudia you talk against Saudi clan the least of possible on internet and you get slayed in street. Your mufties say movies, camera, internet, gyms etc... are forbidden. Lol you are comparing Najdistan with Iran. Funny....

Your previous saudi monarch wanted to buy Facebook for 250$ billion to arrest and kill Saudi activists in silence.

http://awdnews.com/top-news/saudi-a...rest-the-pro-democracy-activists,-say-reports
 
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Lol in Saudia you talk against Saudi family the least of possible on internet and you get slayed in street. Your mufties say movies, camera, internet gyms etc... are forbidden. Lol you are comparing Najdistan with Iran. Funny....

http://awdnews.com/top-news/saudi-a...rest-the-pro-democracy-activists,-say-reports

You are severely ignorant but I don't blame you as you do not speak Arabic, are able to read it or write it, have ever visited KSA, the GCC or any Arab country for that matter. You probably don't know much about the history either and all your information derives from state-controlled media that are currently mostly anti-Arab (despite claiming Arab ancestry but that is another discussion) so no wonder that you believe in such nonsense.

You are beyond ignorant. There are gyms in all major cities in KSA. As for internet, it is faster, less restricted (for once social media is not banned) and more popular than in Iran. In fact people in KSA use social media more than anyone else per capita.

Camera? How old are you. 2? Same story with movies.

Also Najd is one out of numerous historical provinces in KSA. It is not even the biggest or second biggest let alone the most populous. It is like if Iran was called Arabistan or Baluchistan or Khorasan or whatever.

Grow up and for your own health stop obsessing about Arab events even more than Arabs living through those events. It cannot be healthy.
 
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You are severely ignorant but I don't blame you as you do not speak Arabic, are able to read it or write it, have ever visited KSA, the GCC or any Arab country for that matter. You probably don't know much about the history either and all your information derives from state-controlled media that are currently mostly anti-Arab (despite claiming Arab ancestry but that is another discussion) so no wonder that you believe in such nonsense.

You are beyond ignorant. There are gyms in all major cities in KSA. As for internet, it is faster, less restricted (for once social media is not banned) and more popular than in Iran. In fact people in KSA use social media more than anyone else per capita.

Camera? How old are you. 2? Same story with movies.

Also Najd is one out of numerous historical provinces in KSA. It is not even the biggest or second biggest let alone the most populous. It is like if Iran was called Arabistan or Baluchistan or Khorasan or whatever.

Grow up and for your own health stop obsessing about Arab events even more than Arabs living through those events. It cannot be healthy.
Really?


Things are banned in Saudia:

http://www.youthconnect.in/2014/03/05/banned-in-saudi-arabia

Except one exception cinema "There is no cinema in Arabia". Movies are haram.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Saudi_Arabia
 
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Really?


Things are banned in Saudia:

http://www.youthconnect.in/2014/03/05/banned-in-saudi-arabia

Except one exception cinema "There is no cinema in Arabia". Movies are haram.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Saudi_Arabia

Yes, cell phones are banned and in fact breathing is banned too. I really cannot take such discussions seriously.

As for cinema, there is a Saudi Arabian film industry but it is mostly based outside of the country (other Arab countries). Several Saudi Arabian films have been made, some praised internationally and received film awards regionally. It is a small industry for now until that moronic rule changes. Once it does a lot will occur although I personally consider that a minor goal as there are more important ones.

BTW, Saudi Arabian comedies, series are the most popular in the Arab world along with Egyptian and Lebanese. Saudi Arabian tv channels are also the biggest platforms for that in the Arab world. MBC, Rotana etc. The whole Arab world is watching those series and comedies.

So wait until that field liberalizes. It will only become bigger.

And this is the latest Saudi Arabian movie with Saudi Arabian actors:









As I said, you do not know what you are talking about and useless links are useless.

But yes, everything that you have mentioned is STRICTLY banned.:lol: In fact a friend of mine you used a cell phone earlier today was beheaded immediately.
 
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