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Baba ramdev arrested....supporters attacked

But lets not forget that during time of congress major terrorist attacks have happened in India, largest scams in the history of India has occurred while congress is in power, on the other hand, you can see what Narendra Modi has given to Gujarat. See the growth Gujarat is facing among other states. So, yes, I do want to see Narendra Mania on national level.

As for the Gujarat riots, people of both religions murdered and raped each other, not just Hindus or not just Muslims. How many religious riots have broken out in Gujarat since then? None! Narendra Modi probably did make stupid move during riots but it was THEN! Congress's stupid moves have been quite consistent.

More over, no matter how much you would like congress to remain in power, it is not gonna happen. Sonia has signed her own permanent leave. I thought, Rahul being young blood would have something better to do than old farts but he is also too off from same trash bag.

Better corruption than hatred and death.
Corruption might slow down our progress but eventually we will break through,hatred will tear apart the nation.
Simply put no matter how much development is promised another gujarat on a national scale can't be risked.
And i don't think bjp is any less corrupt,sab politicians corruption mein masters hain.
Because congress has been in power more it has come more to the spotlight.
And bjp's so called ironman also turned mew mew when kandahar airplane terror crisis happened,so point abt terror is moot.
 
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Well, you can not blame Police Officers at lower level at least because they do what they are told to do by seniors. Putting country, politics and policies aside COPS too have families to feed likes everyone else. I am sure most among 5,000 police personnel that were involved here probably do support anti-corruption movement.
 
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Better corruption than hatred and death.
Corruption might slow down our progress but eventually we will break through,hatred will tear apart the nation.
Simply put no matter how much development is promised another gujarat on a national scale can't be risked.
And i don't think bjp is any less corrupt,sab politicians corruption mein masters hain.
Because congress has been in power more it has come more to the spotlight.
And bjp's so called ironman also turned mew mew when kandahar airplane terror crisis happened,so point abt terror is moot.

You missed the whole thing, buddy.

Movement is not against changing one Government. Its for changing system and bringing in harsh laws.

All they are asking is for Lokpal Bill and few Harsh laws against Black money. Where congress Vs. BJP came into this?

This diversion of debate towards Congress Vs. BJP, and sickular Vs. non-sickular, is only helping those m0therf0cker corrupts. We are fighting like stupid with each other and those corrupt Congis+bjp are laughing on us. :lol:

See the message, forget messenger.
 
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Even Pakistan should also consider Lokpal bill now. Its a jackass law, which will put balls of leaders in hands of few IAS officers, who will be in direct media scrutiny. :tup:

Lokpal is like an independent body like Election Commission, over which all these jokers(BJP+Congress) have no power. :woot:

This proposal is so phucking strong that BJP+Congress+all parties are phucking shivering with just thought of it. :lol:
 
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This "baba" is one of the biggest fake swamis in india. It is pure hypocrisy when he demands such measures. GOI is in the right when they arrested this loser. On top of that...the loser requested permission for a "yoga camp" instead of the one for holding satyagraha.
 
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Moreover, this guy has no people support except from the RSS fanatics and those he bribed. Anna hazare movement was successful because indians worldwide supported his movement. What right does this "baba" have to demand anything ?!
 
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The notion of an Indian guru brings to mind a romanticized vision of an enlightened, otherworldly being swathed in ocher orange robes and followed by hordes of devotees. It is not a “profession” that we give much credence to in today’s world, especially in the West where the concept of an enlightened being guiding and teaching thousands of followers is often viewed as bizarre and cultish. In the classical Indian view, a guru is an enlightened being who guides others to their own self-realization; a concept that is questioned each time it has entered our Western world. So it’s no surprise that as Indian teacher Baba Ramdev is making headlines as a modern day guru, his claims of healing incurable diseases and foretelling the future are causing some to question his authenticity.

Baba Ramdev asserts that the practices of pranayama and ayurveda can cure health concerns from high blood pressure to HIV. He talks of corruption from the West and claims to foresee major events like an Indian civil war. Though the proclamations seemed far-fetched, yogis for millennia have carried the same beliefs in the powerful healing properties of breath practices. In addition, the Bombay head of equities trading for a leading Western bank shared similar thoughts about an impending civil uprising due to growing inequality. So is this man a serious yoga adept or a just a seasoned yoga practitioner seeking attention?

In defense of his claims, the Guru has chosen to use science to back up his health claims. Under the scrutiny of university observation, Baba Ramdev plans to scientifically evaluate his methods of yoga and pranayama in order to substantiate its benefits. Ramdev is not the first yoga guru to submit himself to this type of scientific observation. In 1970, another yoga guru, Swami Rama, participated in experiments at the Menninger Foundation, which included voluntarily stopping his own heart pumping for 17 seconds and affecting his own body temperature by as much as ten degrees. And he received doubt and criticism from people all over the world.

The fantastic abilities of yoga adepts can be traced back to the ancient texts. In the Yoga Sutras, Patanjali chronicles numerous physical and mental feats that can be achieved by the accomplished yogi (siddhis), but he is also quick to warn that these feats are not the equivalent to the end goal of yoga, Samadhi, or liberation. A true “guru” is one who removes darkness, a light of wisdom on the path of another. So, regardless of how many cool tricks a person can do, the real judge of a guru is their ability to remove the veil of darkness and illusion in others through right action and wise teaching. If Baba Ramdev is a true guru, it will not be shown in a battery of scientific tests or in his ability to prophesize the future, but in the authenticity of his teachings and his love for his students.

What do you think of Baba Ramdev’s claims of healing incurable diseases and foretelling the future?
 
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To all the hot heads who can't think for themselves. This whole so called agitation was just another of his dog and pony show. His demands are ridiculous and one would probably need the Constitution to be amended.

Anyway, you people have been had. Again.

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NEW DELHI: Baba Ramdev on Saturday began an indefinite fast against black money but by the end of the day he was in a tight corner after government released a letter from his aide that he would call off the agitation by mid-day.

As talks failed, the two sides blamed each other of having gone back on their commitments and Ramdev accused the government of "betrayal and cheating".

Union minister Kapil Sibal's release of the letter by Acharya Balkrishan, Ramdev's key aide, led to attack by the yoga guru that government was indulging in "betrayal and cheating" and that he would now only go by any word from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, whom he still respects.

The dramatic development came as Ramdev first announced that he would be giving the "good news" of ending the agitation but quickly went back on it after Sibal made public the letter at a press conference also attended by another Union minister Subodh Kant Sahay.

In a stick-and-carrot message, Sibal said that the government has honoured all its commitments and that Ramdev had a misapprehension when he questioned the setting up of a committee on making a law to deal with black money menace.

Ruling out issuing an ordinance on the issue, the minister, who held negotiations with Ramdev on Friday, made a veiled threat that the government that has "always reached out can also rein in".

"If we are accommodative, we can also be firm," he said adding that negotiations cannot be taken as a sign of weakness.

Taken aback by government's aggression, Ramdev threatened to continue his fast till his three demands -- declaring black money as national asset, enacting a law to confiscate black money along with stringent punishment and surveillance on those visiting tax havens abroad.

Ramdev came under severe questioning by media as to why he did not disclose since Friday that there was an understanding to this effect that he would call off the fast after government's written assurance on three of his demands.

"You kept the faithful, media and the nation in the dark," was one of the several questions hurled at an uneasy Ramdev who at one point conceded that the reason that he did not announce the understanding on Friday was because people would have left.

However, he quickly hastened to add that government would show its "thumb" to his movement and do nothing about his demands.

" Kapil Sibal is a liar. I will never talk to him in my life-time," Ramdev said adding that he still reposed faith in the Prime Minister and would go by his decision.

The sudden turn of events started with Sibal releasing Balkrishan's letter which gave Ramdev's "consent" to call off the agitation once the government gave a written assurance of fulfilling his demands within a time frame.

Replying to a barrage of questions, Ramdev said the letter was given after the ministers "pleaded" that this letter was only meant for Prime Minister to show that his fast was not going to be indefinite and that he was not aiming at destabilising the government.

Ramdev claimed the ministers had sought the letter as the government had suffered a huge embarrassment after its decision to send four senior ministers to meet him at the airport on June 1 for discussions.

However, he did not appear convincing in his replies as media grilled him on the letter and its non-disclosure. At one point, he cautioned a reporter to remain within "limits" when the scribe asked him about the funding of his agitation.

Sibal told the press conference that he talked to Ramdev over phone to assure him that government was committed to framing a law and the setting up of a committee is a process towards it.

He however made it clear that there was no possibility of issuing an ordinance in this regard.

Sibal said the government will send to Ramdev in writing that its assurance of setting up of a committee is a commitment towards framing of a law.

Defending the decision to make public the communication, government sources said Ramdev was frequently changing positions and they had to "call the bluff".

Sources said Ramdev's camp had made a commitment to call off the strike by 4pm and when it did not happen, then they had to categorically tell him that they were going to release the letter.

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This "baba" is one of the biggest fake swamis in india. It is pure hypocrisy when he demands such measures. GOI is in the right when they arrested this loser. On top of that...the loser requested permission for a "yoga camp" instead of the one for holding satyagraha.

You can't win fight against corrupts, by worrying and nitpicking on technicalities. Did Mahatma Gandhi worry about silly technicalities, of why and how he got license to run masses over whole salt land property?

He is standing for something good, so I am with him. Right now we need RSS, this is a crude fact. There is no other organisation in India which an bring in such mass movement for this cause. We need it.

Even guys like Bukhari and Dominic Immanuel who are anti-RSS to the core, are supporting Ramdev because they believe in the cause he is standing for. :tup:

So, lets support it because we won't get this opportunity again. We know how much we care about going out ourself and making an effort in protest. Most of us don't.

This is 1857 happening right now. We need few more bombs from Center. It will be super. :cheesy:
 
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See the message, forget messenger.
Sometimes the messenger assumes a greater significance than the message. If Hitler started talking about humanity, would be able to see the message?

Remember: Ceaser's wife must not only be innocent, she must also look innocent.
 
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Sometimes the messenger assumes a greater significance than the message. If Hitler started talking about humanity, would be able to see the message?

Remember: Ceaser's wife must not only be innocent, she must also look innocent.

Agreed. But keep this for tomorrow. Today, we have a job to finish. :tup:
 
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What right does this "baba" have to demand anything ?!


Baba did not demand anything. When he asked during his yoga sessions, "kitne log mere saath Delhi ann sann ke liye aaynge, haath upper karo zara", all hands went up just like that. So, that is called people's support. Of course this issue has re-begun after the police raid, so now Indians have full Sunday to watch this story on news and next time even more people will turn up to his support.


Congress is going kangaal now.
 
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same Delhi police failed to register a case against Arundhathi susane roy ,geelani and co ..performed their duty faithfully and loyally against Baba Ramdev ...all hail our Sickular pseudocrasy
 
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