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I have seen these videos and look like Azerbaijan suffered heavy casualties.
Also in one more video armenia committed war crime by possibly killing POWs tied up.
Pictures are graphic but it is a war crime.
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Please don't believe in all the stuffs coming from the Armenian side....

How many Turkish soldiers got killed when a full fledged ops underwent against the Asad regime? The similar "high tech" ops are being carried out inside Karabag', thanks to UAVs, precision munitions, SPGs, rockets etc....
 
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I have seen these videos and look like Azerbaijan suffered heavy casualties.
Also in one more video armenia committed war crime by possibly killing POWs tied up.
Pictures are graphic but it is a war crime.
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Yes those are the reality of war. I have seen many such brutal graphic videos on this, reason i find it weird that some members here seem to cheer for war as if it's some sort of video game or something. That's the sad reality of war, it's humans dying and they will NEVER COME BACK ALIVE AGAIN. Once you are gone you are gone, and life continues. So i don't wish this on anybody, since one day this conflict will be resolved and countries boundaries have been changing for generations and will keep changing for generations to come. No country's boundary will remain the same forever. That's life, so anything is replaceable apart from a HUMAN'S LIFE. So we should all cherish our lives and hope this two sides calm down and go to the negotiating table and focus on their citizens development. Since there are not even developed countries yet, but still developing countries trying to forge a part for themselves. However, i'm afraid this is just wishful thinking on my part, since i know human pride won't let them understand this and calm down. lol
Anyway, we can only wait and see how things will evolve with time. Hopefully hen both sides have destroyed each other enough that they are tired of fighting they will come back to their senses and negotiate.
 
Entire Armenia will be flattened if they take it further....

British Petroleum operates Baku–Tbilisi–Ceyhan pipeline . They are 30.1% shareholder.

It's sad that a pipeline is a limit for Azeri government, but it's not a limit the loss of thousand Azeri militarymen and Azeri innocent civilian lives.

Azeri lives dont matter, Azeri oil pipeline matters :lol:.

Disgusting :angry:.
 

Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: Major cities hit as heavy fighting continues

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Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: Major cities hit as heavy fighting continues
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Azerbaijan's second-largest city, Ganja, has been shelled by Armenian forces, as heavy clashes continue over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh enclave.
The enclave is officially part of Azerbaijan but run by ethnic Armenians.
The self-proclaimed authorities there said they hit Ganja's military airport after Azerbaijani forces shelled the region's capital, Stepanakert.
Azerbaijan says no Ganja military sites were hit. More than 220 people have died since clashes began a week ago.
Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war over Nagorno-Karabakh in 1988-94, eventually declaring a ceasefire. However, they have never reached a settlement over the dispute.
The current fighting is the worst seen since the ceasefire and the two former Soviet republics have been blaming each other.
Crowds look at destroyed buildings in Ganja. Photo: 4 October 2020
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image captionSeveral buildings in Ganja were destroyed, Azerbaijani officials say
Burning cars in Stepanakert, the capital of the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region. Photo: 4 October 2020
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image captionStepanakert is reported to be without electricity after the shelling
There are fears that the actual death toll among the militaries from all sides as well as civilians could be much higher, as casualty claims have not been independently verified.
Azerbaijan's military says its forces have retaken control of seven villages since last Sunday, while Nagorno-Karabakh says its troops have "improved" their frontline positions.
Earlier this week, Armenia said it stood "ready to engage" with mediators from France, Russia and the US to try to agree a ceasefire.
Azerbaijan, which is openly backed by Turkey, has demanded the withdrawal of Armenian troops from Nagorno-Karabakh and adjacent areas seized by ethnic Armenian troops.
"Nagorno-Karabakh is our land," Azerbaijan's President Ilham Aliyev said in a televised address to the nation on Sunday, as he demanded Armenia apologise to his country and provide a timetable for their withdrawal.
"This is the end. We showed them who we are. We are chasing them like dogs."
What's the latest from the battlefield?
In a brief statement on Sunday, Azerbaijan's defence ministry said Armenian forces were shelling Ganja, a western Azerbaijani city lying to the north of Nagorno-Karabakh.
Defence Minister Zakary Hasanov said this was a "clearly provocative" move that was expanding the conflict.
One civilian was killed, local media reported.
In a later statement, the defence ministry said: "The information spread by the Armenian side about the alleged shelling of military facilities in Ganja city is provocative and false.
"As a result of enemy fire, civilians, civilian infrastructure and ancient historical buildings were harmed."
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Meanwhile, Nagorno-Karabakh's authorities said that they had destroyed Ganja's military airport.
They said they had acted after Stepanakert was hit by missiles and alleged the Ganja facility had been used by Azerbaijani forces to launch attacks on civilian areas.
Heavy casualties were reported in Stepanakert, which was left without electricity, according to Armenpress news agency. Buses of people were seen leaving the city on Saturday.
Armenpress quoted the separatist region's leader, Arayik Harutyunyan, as warning that "from now on the military facilities permanently deployed in Azerbaijan's major cities are legitimate targets of the defence army".
Mr Harutyunyan added that he had now ordered the shelling stopped, "to prevent the deaths of innocent peaceful civilians".
Turkey condemned the shelling of Ganja, accusing Armenia of "targeting civilians".
But Armenian defence ministry spokeswoman Shushan Stepanyan said that "that no fire of any kind is being opened from the territory of Armenia in Azerbaijan's direction".
Armenia provides military and economic support to Nagorno-Karabakh without officially recognising the self-proclaimed region.
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'Casualties all over Ganja'
By Konul Khalilova, Editor, BBC News Azerbaijani
For the more than 330,000 residents of Ganja, this morning brought horror - the city was being shelled by forces fighting for Armenia.
"We heard a big explosion. It was shocking and dreadful. Children were scared," one resident told us. "We left our apartment and went to a shelter."
A nurse in one of the main hospitals said several injured civilians had been brought in.
"My husband saw the body of a woman in a pool of blood. There are casualties all over the city," she said.
Separatists in Nagorno-Karabakh have urged residents of major Azerbaijani cities to leave, warning that military sites there are now legitimate targets.
But Ganja resident Elnur Bayramov said he and his family were not scared.
"We are not going to leave our house, our city, we are not going to become internally displaced people," he said.
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Nagorno-Karabakh's authorities have confirmed that 201 of their service personnel and a number of civilians have died since the fighting erupted on 27 September.
Azerbaijan says 22 civilians have been killed, without providing information about its military casualties.
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Nagorno-Karabakh - key facts
  • A mountainous region of about 4,400 sq km (1,700 sq miles)
  • Traditionally inhabited by Christian Armenians and Muslim Turks
  • In Soviet times, it became an autonomous region within the republic of Azerbaijan
  • Internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan, but majority of population is ethnic Armenian
  • Self-proclaimed authorities are not recognised by any UN member, including Armenia
  • An estimated one million people displaced by war in 1988-94, and about 30,000 killed
  • Separatist forces captured some extra territory around the enclave in Azerbaijan
  • Stalemate has largely prevailed since a 1994 ceasefire
  • Turkey openly supports Azerbaijan
  • Russia has a military base in Armenia

media captionRos Atkins explains why fighting over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh continues to intensify
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President Alieyv's message to the nation. The morale is high and they're determined to fight on with Sabr and Shukr to get their very own rightful lands back from Armenia. They've waited for 30 years, they won't wait for another 30 years....

 
Azeri Turks, concentrated mainly in the oil-poor northwest of Iran (along the border with Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan), make up an estimated one-fourth of Iran’s population of 70 million. Azeris often claim a population share close to 40 percent, a number that includes ethnic brethren such as the Turkmen, Qashgais, and other Turkic-speaking groups.


Whenever the subject of "Iranian Azeris" -- those who speak Azeri Turkish as their native language -- comes up, there are disputes about how many people we are talking about. Iranian censuses don't include data about native languages, so no one can say for certain how many Azeris live in the country.

 
O banday, Allah ka wasteh hi, Quran mein kissi bi jaga global flood ka nahin. Aik dafa Quran ko parh loh. Prophet Nuh alayhis salam was sent to his Ummah and when they disbelieved in his Message Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) punished them. Nuh alayhis salam was not sent to entire mankind that Allah decided to punish everyone. Flood was a punishment for disbelieving in message of Prophet NUH alayhis salam and he was only sent to his nation he was not a global flood. Why would Allah punish chinese, Japanese Pakistanis along side people of Nuh alayhis salam when they had not disbelieved in the message of Nuh alayhis salam nor he went to India and tell them ... hey I am Messenger of Allah ... there was and is no justification for punisment of entire world.Allah ka wasta yara, aik dafa Quran parh loh.

Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger. [Ref: Quran 17:15]

Allahs Sunnat is that he punishes people to whom he sent a Prophet if they disbleievd in him. There never was a collective punishment on entire mankind ... except the one to come ... yes day of judgment and destruction of earth is a punishment which Allah promised:


I wrote this article some years ago. Sunnah of Allah is to punish a nation to whom a Prophet was sent and they disbelieved. Prophet Nuh was sent to a nation and they earned punishment. It makes no sense that Allah would punish people to whom no Prophet/Messenger was sent. Which Prophet came to Chinese, Indians, British, French, Malaysians, Australians natives, Africans, North Polians, ... If there was global flood then it would mean every nation region had a Prophet/Messenger sent to them. And they all unanimously, inhabitants of earth unanimously all rejected Prophets except few people of Nuh alayhis salam and Allah then sent a global flood.

I know what my Lord is able over and isn't. You don't have to tell me and remind me anything. I live, breath, learning my religion and its teachings. I am not Jummah Muslim. I know Quran and Sunnah like you know movies inside out. I do this day in and out every day like 10 hours a day. Here is proof, note MuhammedAli is me:


I heard someone say that at time of Nooh AS there were no other nations established yet. The global flood hence destroyed only that nation, Nooh AS also called 2nd Adam AS. How far is the era between Adam AS and Nooh AS?
 
Why have the turks left this forum?

You can take that query to the appropriate subforum like suggestions, maybe we can work to get them back.

Sharing two links:

1. First is about historical evidence of claim of Nagorno Karabakh.


2. Though can't say for sure but according to this tweet Georgia wants to join the party too.


If Georgia joins, Armenia will simply not exist.

Georgia is coming to support Armenia ? do they have a military pact or brothers helping each other out

They are against Armenia.

Georgia has really good relationship with Turkey. Though they are pretty neutral but now don't know for sure. But things are getting pretty interesting and it can also prove another thing the fight is not one religion against another as many people want it to portray.

Good point.

I don't see a small country like Georgia getting entangled in an ethnic conflict where they have no significant national interests being threatened.

Georgia has a region with a large Armenian population in the south, and is keen to prevent more Russian encroachment on their territory as well.

Armenian fascists may very well drag Georgia into the war. They are totally out of control.

The possible answer is the relationship of Israel with Azerbaijan. If Azerbaijan wins this with Israeli assistance then there is a huge possibility to return the favour to them likewise in using Azerbaijani soil to perpetuate attack to Iranian targets with much ease and it will be impossible to counter attacks on multiple fronts by Iran it will stretch their resources.

No, all of this is an exaggeration. Neither Azerbaycan nor Turkey will allow their land to be used against Iran, especially not by Israel.

Israel and PAKISTAN on the same side

How the hell did this happen😳

Israel is buying of Azeri oil, nothing more.

However the iranian propaganda is trying to magnify this aspect to discredit Azerbaycan, which they see as a real threat to their rhetoric that only they can speak for Shias and only their allies are innocent.

Truth is, iran supports Non-Muslim powers occupying their neighbors' and regions' lands as a matter of policy, whether it be Armenia, India, NA in Afghanistan, or Serbia.

My Armenian friends in US are pissed at Pakistan standing with Turks.... Anyways, they resorted to cursing and threats of causing harms to Pakistan using France and Greeks.. not sure how that plays in... but when i tried to rationalize that war is by no means an answer, by reminding them what the history has been, they refuse to see it. they dont see their persecution.. sad how one sided mind set is.

Any news of mass civilian casualties? I hope Azeri troops will follow the teachings of Islam and will not harm any unarmed person...

You don't have to worry. Azerbaycan are a professional military force and disciplined entity. These are not murderous brainwashed Islamophobic and anti-Turk genocidal terrorists which Armenia released on Azeri population when they took Nagorno-Karabakh in the first place.

It's sad that a pipeline is a limit for Azeri government, but it's not a limit the loss of thousand Azeri militarymen and Azeri innocent civilian lives.

Azeri lives dont matter, Azeri oil pipeline matters :lol:.

Disgusting :angry:.

You are trying very hard to defame Azerbaycan. Armenians are very desperate, and their supporters even more so.
 
It's sad that a pipeline is a limit for Azeri government, but it's not a limit the loss of thousand Azeri militarymen and Azeri innocent civilian lives.

Azeri lives dont matter, Azeri oil pipeline matters :lol:.

Disgusting :angry:.

There is a limit to everything. Azeris are fighting what is rightfully theirs. Even their countrymen supports that. You are a nobody to set their limit.
 
There is a limit to everything. Azeris are fighting what is rightfully theirs. Even their countrymen supports that. You are a nobody to set their limit.

Many of the Non-Muslims here are supporting Armenia against Azerbaycan here in this thread, they are trying very hard to turn Armenian losses on the ground into social media victories (similar to Assad regime.)

That should be a warning bell for us Muslims. Armenia is a facist state and Armenians are hardcore racists and Islamophobes.

 
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