Azadi March Updates & Discussions

[koolio]

BadNaseeb, Jhotay aur BaySharam ...
Sharif Khandan; Nawaz aur Maryam ...

These shameless corrupts have no moral, ethics or self respect, despite ruling Pakistan more than 3 times, bleeding it high and dry, Godfather has got all the money he can buy with best doctors treating him, yet the rest of the population dont have the same right as this corrupt beast. I am certain some kind of plea bargain has been agreed, but if that is the case it should be announced and made public.

 

[Shane]

I am certain some kind of plea bargain has been agreed, but if that is the case it should be announced and made public.

Covert deals are proof that ours is indeed a softstate.

What happened in Mushy era is just one of such examples...and it looks like a reprinted and repackaged same old wine in a new bottle.

Somebody remind the deal makers not to reinvent the same wheel...don't take us for yet another ride plz...

Such a deal will bring us back full cycle...dejavu in a few years and as good as would be back to the post 2008 era...

Rest is just criminal optimism for a nation still suffering from Stockholm Syndrome that would yet vote Nawaz back into power if elections were held today...On top of that, they make a covert deal so that the criminals can save face for yet another chance in a few years time.

The only true survival for a better future of Pakistan is not in empty optimism but...The only true solution is:

A PUBLIC PLEA BARGAIN FOR ANY CRIMINAL WHO WANTS SYMPATHY FOR THEMSELVES AND RESPITE FROM PUNISHMENT FOR CRIMES AGAINST PAKISTAN.

Anything else as is looking like happening is itself treason to Pakistan - and getting caught in the trap of criminals yet again.

 

[HAIDER]

'If there was rigging, why did you run for the presidential election?' Awan asks Fazlur Rehman
The govt's chief spokesperson Firdous Ashiq Awan asks JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman why he contested the presidential election if there had been rigging in the polls.

"Maulana sahib, if there was rigging during the elections, why did you stand for the presidential election? Why did your son take oath as a member of the National Assembly? This hue and cry about rigging a year later is nothing more than a ruse to mislead the nation and to weaken democracy."


Firdous Ashiq Awan@Dr_FirdousPTI
https://twitter.com/Dr_FirdousPTI/status/1192678803153309698

مولانا صاحب! انتخابات میں اگر دھاندلی ہوئی تھی تو آپ نے صدر کا الیکشن کیوں لڑا تھا؟آپ کے صاحب زادے نے ایم این اے کا حلف کیوں اٹھایاتھا؟ایک سال بعد دھاندلی کا واویلا عوام کو گمراہ اور جمہوری نظام کو کمزور کرنے کے سوا کچھ نہیں۔


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In another tweet, Awan also asked why he himself had invited talks — which are a democratic way to deal with differences — and then declared them "meaningless", shutting his mind to finding a resolution.

"Even Luqman had no cure for delusions," she added.


Firdous Ashiq Awan@Dr_FirdousPTI
https://twitter.com/Dr_FirdousPTI/status/1192678714800250880

مذاکرات جمہوری عمل کا نام ہے جس کے آپ خود داعی رہے ہیں۔مذاکرات کو بے معنی قرار دے کر اپنے ذہن کی کھڑکیوں کوکیوں بند رکھنا چاہتے؟وہم کا علاج لقمان حکیم کے پاس بھی نہیں تھا۔


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[Shane]

The Rise of Khottaism started with ZAB and NooraRegime took to current peak!!!

SoftState

Any hope for a better Pakistan stands to commit suicide the day Nawaz leaves Pakistan without any public plea bargain.

Yet another disappointment from a self cornered, threatened and compromising Imran Khan.

Mariam Nawaz going abroad is being resisted by Imran Khan at the moment.

I again refer the >>post<< assessing the reason for the sudden hardline by Fazlu who looked like ending his dharna when Nawaz and Maryam both got bail and looked like both going abroad but Maryam passport confiscation by Court made the deal sour...

...So Fazlu is now going to sit tight and will not end hi dharna until a sufficiently scared or threatened Imran Khan finally also agrees to let Maryam join his father in a few days.

Fazlu of course also wants assurances that NAB would spare his gang too but the main sponsors of his dharna stands to gain more but also shall set the benchmark to such a low that all those who are held accountable will benefit from Nawaz's example.

.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Covert deals are proof that ours is indeed a softstate.

What happened in Mushy era is just one of such examples...and it looks like a reprinted and repackaged same old wine in a new bottle.

Somebody remind the deal makers not to reinvent the same wheel...don't take us for yet another ride plz...

Such a deal will bring us back full cycle...dejavu in a few years and as good as would be back to the post 2008 era...

Rest is just criminal optimism for a nation still suffering from Stockholm Syndrome that would yet vote Nawaz back into power if elections were held today...On top of that, they make a covert deal so that the criminals can save face for yet another chance in a few years time.

The only true survival for a better future of Pakistan is not in empty optimism but...The only true solution is:

A PUBLIC PLEA BARGAIN FOR ANY CRIMINAL WHO WANTS SYMPATHY FOR THEMSELVES AND RESPITE FROM PUNISHMENT FOR CRIMES AGAINST PAKISTAN.

Anything else as is looking like happening is itself treason to Pakistan - and getting caught in the trap of criminals yet again.

Their should be a criteria that only college graduates 18+ can vote! and trust me 90% would vote for IK. thats what jahil awam lords dont want to see.. they just want to rule over sheep population who can be manipulated by briyani and korma plate.

 

[SIPRA]

Any hope for a better Pakistan stands to commit suicide the day Nawaz leaves Pakistan without any public plea bargain.

Yet another disappointment from a self cornered, threatened and compromising Imran Khan.

Mariam Nawaz going abroad is being resisted by Imran Khan at the moment.

I again refer the >>post<< assessing the reason for the sudden hardline by Fazlu who looked like ending his dharna when Nawaz and Maryam both got bail and looked like both going abroad but Maryam passport confiscation by Court made the deal sour...

...So Fazlu is now going to sit tight and will not end hi dharna until a sufficiently scared or threatened Imran Khan finally also agrees to let Maryam join his father in a few days.

Fazlu of course also wants assurances that NAB would spare his gang too but the main sponsors of his dharna stands to gain more but also shall set the benchmark to such a low that all those who are held accountable will benefit from Nawaz's example.

At this moment, utter silence of IK and government is deafening and alarming. Despair is at its peak. It appears that IK has been thoroughly defeated, by whosoever. Now, the rumors that Mullah Fuzla has covert support of certain sections of PA are gaining strength. Hopes are dwindling.

The Rise of Khottaism started with ZAB and NooraRegime took to current peak!!!

SoftState

If IK has an iota of honor and shame, left in him; he shall resign and leave the politics for good and let these scoundrels and rascals of the Establishment and political parties settle the things, between themselves, as they deem fit. Let the things go to the extremes and destined catastrophe, instead of making unnecessary compromises. May be something good would come out of that, instead of these shameful and shameless wheeling and dealings.

 

[Shane]

At this moment, utter silence of IK and government is deafening and alarming. Despair is at its peak. It appears that IK has been thoroughly defeated, by whosoever. Now, the rumors that Mullah Fuzla has covert support of certain sections of PA are gaining strength. Hopes are dwindling.



If IK has an iota of honor and shame, left in him; he shall resign and leave the politics for good and let these scoundrels and rascals of the Establishment and political parties settle the things, between themselves, as they deem fit. Let the things go to the extremes and destined catastrophe, instead of making unnecessary compromises. May be something good would come out of that, instead of these shameful and shameless wheeling and dealings.

There is still a spark worth of hope left.

As Posted earlier, IK is still reluctant to let Baji go. She may be kept from going to London for assurances that...

a) Nawaz shall come back after "treatment". Hence no deal.

or

b) Nawaz shall dispose off assets in London to pay the covert plea bargain deal and make the payment to ensure the deal is completed and Maryam gets released afterwards.

Fazlu dharna is going to linger on until an improvised package deal is struck...ensuring Maryams release...same package to Zardari...and in essence, security from NAB to Fazlu and his partners.

I am not trying to justify any deal at all...
My earlier post about any covert deal and what it means but destruction of a better future for Pakistan is my belief that it is nothing short of treason to give these criminals any relief without public plea bargain.

I am only trying to make sense of the situation objectively.

 

[SIPRA]

There is still a spark worth of hope left.

As Posted earlier, IK is still reluctant to let Baji go. She may be kept from going to London for assurances that...

a) Nawaz shall come back after "treatment". Hence no deal.

or

b) Nawaz shall dispose off assets in London to pay the covert plea bargain deal and make the payment to ensure the deal is completed and Maryam gets released afterwards.

Fazlu dharna is going to linger on until an improvised package deal is struck...ensuring Maryams release...same package to Zardari...and in essence, security from NAB to Fazlu and his partners.

I am not trying to justify any deal at all...
My earlier post about any covert deal and what it means but destruction of a better future for Pakistan is my belief that it is nothing short of treason to give these criminals any relief without public plea bargain.

I am only trying to make sense of the situation objectively.

You may be right. In any case, this duo of IK and PA is our only hope, under the prevailing circumstances. All else is pure trash. So, let us have trust on them and hope for something good for Pakistan and it's people. We don't have much choice, in this case.

 

[Shane]

You may be right. In any case, this duo of IK and PA is our only hope, under the prevailing circumstances. All else is pure trash. So, let us have trust on them and hope for something good for Pakistan and it's people. We don't have much choice, in this case.

That's the jjist, all else is pure trash. No one can argue with that.

That's why the best any critic can come up with is that these are no better bunch than previous...

However, just a cursory look back proves that IK is the only politician alive who has given more to this nation even before coming to power than the rest of the trash put together.

 

[SIPRA]

However, just a cursory look back proves that IK is the only politician alive who has given more to this nation even before coming to power then the rest of the trash put together.

Fully agree. No doubt.

 

[Menace2Society]

That's the jjist, all else is pure trash. No one can argue with that.

That's why the best any critic can come up with is that these are no better bunch than previous...

However, just a cursory look back proves that IK is the only politician alive who has given more to this nation even before coming to power then the rest of the trash put together.

Looking back at the pictures of old politicans, they all look like gangsters, thugs and fraudsters without a single act of selfless kindness to their name.

 

[Verve]

Hopes are about to be dashed!

 

[koolio]

So now Fake Diesel has given a new deadline until 12 Rabi awal, plan B is to choke the major highways, plan C is to march onto red zone, Soon as plan B is announced IK needs to act before things start to get out of his control. IK needs to get out of his pacifist mindset and stop the country acting like a banana republic.

Fake Diesel has come on a mission to save the haram Khor corrupts and get them in power and then loot loot as much they can.

 

[Path-Finder]

strange blast from the past.

https://www.facebook.com/

 

[Verve]

Clockwork, don't you think?

Anyways, max six months... and then DandayWaliSarkar in full swing... interim setup... and 62/63 rough implementation...

PresidentialSystem ... people will beg for it!!!

Get the two families to sign plea bargain and exile before the system is uprooted. They've got the money to hire lobbies so once they sign plea bargain they are neutralised. Babus, mullahs and other politicians can be dealt with at local level without any international pressure.

IK will dissolve assemblies citing complete system failure. Next election, IK's manifesto will be system change and he may just be handed the full blueprint of it by then.